Fish in the pool we are in

[selby]

 Sorry to say this was a thread I failed to keep up, but seeing as  us the supporters are in the throws of pulling ourselves apart wanting us to sign players, can I put forward Pigott who played for  Wimbledon against us in the cup and League fixtures, who seamed to get onto everything they punted forward, and looked a really good forward in both games.
  And for a midfield player we could do worse than look at Williams at Rochdale, or Antony Evans an U23s from Everton who can play right across the front three or as a wing back.
  They have all impressed against us in games, and have played well in other games against teams in this division and in the FL cup.
  I would think that none would cost the earth and would fit the profile of young players who could develop for added value.
  Any other suggestions welcome.

[tyke1962]

22 years old Bez Lubdala has 10 goals this season from midfield for Crawley Town .

Leicester born he came to Crawley last summer on a free transfer from Birmingham City where he played mainly at U23 level .

Could be worth monitoring his progress , goalscoring midfield players aren't 10 a penny .

[Padge_DRFC]

Surprised nobody further up the table hasn't gone in for Piggott

[drfchound]

Ah, but is he an A lister. 

[selby]

  Hound, I think Wimbledon signed him from non league, probably not one of our "A" listers but probably should be. He looks a good player, and I have followed his performances in reports and regularly gets great marks and reports. Like Padge I would not be surprised if other clubs are not interested in him.
  The Rochdale player Williams also, and if Whiteman goes anywhere could be a consideration.
    Evans has a lot of tallent and needs to move away from u23s football, and can play a number of positions including No9 and is a big unit, and is out of contract at the end of the season. He had a poor loan period at Blackpool last season, which didn't surprise me as their style of play, I thought would not suit him at all and didn't.
  Obviously non of these players may not even being considered, but I would.

[NickDRFC]

Not so much an A Lister but I remember A Lester Piggott.

[IDM]

We had a fairly decent S Lister in Bremner’s time here.!

[selby]

  Looks to me as though only Padge and Tyke are the only ones that take much notice of players playing with other teams while we are  playing them.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Piggots white so we not going to be signing him lol , joking aside I am starting to think there may be some truth to it

Does the colour of a players skin bother you?

[drfchound]

  Looks to me as though only Padge and Tyke are the only ones that take much notice of players playing with other teams while we are  playing them.

Very patronising that comment selby.
Of course I am well aware of Piggot, he was excellent against us recently.
I regularly take note of opposition players and usually can tell from early in the game who the best players are in their team.
The thing is though that it won’t make a scrap of difference what we think, it won’t have any influence on who DM goes for.

[selby]

  You never know Hound, as others have sad in the past, they do keep tabs on what is posted on here, even the clever quips.
 





 

[RoversAlias]

I research every team we play before we play them and note their performances during and after the game, for my website and just general interest and knowledge. Have to agree with Hound that it's a patronising attitude to take that just because only two people replied to your post so far, they must be the only ones who take any notice of opposition players.

In your earlier thread similarly named this season I and many others contributed, it is a good idea to generate discussion but I'm not sure why the need to say that.

As for what Anton123 posted...well. Perhaps not worth a response.

[selby]

 Sweating on the exorcise bike at the moment, must be me that is arsie sorry guys.

[Donnybax]

Not from this season but I thought Randall Williams looked a good player when we played Wycombe at home last season. Surprised to see him playing in league 2 this season

[Colemans Left Hook]

Surprised nobody further up the table hasn't gone in for Piggott

Walsall and Leicester have both allegedly shown interest 

[scawsby steve]

Sweating on the exorcise bike at the moment, must be me that is arsie sorry guys.

What demons are you trying to exorcise Brian? The ones that are preventing us from getting deals over the line?

[selby]

  Steve,I am not getting up tight about any signings,if we make an approach for a player, and he doesn't want to come for whatever reason, money or location, it is his loss, they will find it difficult to play for better employers, or in front of better supporters.
  And if they look at most of our recent players and loan players, they would realise that most of those have had either a good few years with us, and most of our past players enjoyed their time with us, and while here became better players.
  And most of our recent loan players have improved enough to be sought after by other clubs and quite a few are now plying their trade in the Championship, so we must be doing something right.
  With the present management team in place, and looking at the wider picture, if I was a young player hoping to make a career in the EFL or even higher and did my due diligence about the club, I would have no reservations about joining Doncaster Rovers. 

[scawsby steve]

  Steve,I am not getting up tight about any signings,if we make an approach for a player, and he doesn't want to come for whatever reason, money or location, it is his loss, they will find it difficult to play for better employers, or in front of better supporters.
  And if they look at most of our recent players and loan players, they would realise that most of those have had either a good few years with us, and most of our past players enjoyed their time with us, and while here became better players.
  And most of our recent loan players have improved enough to be sought after by other clubs and quite a few are now plying their trade in the Championship, so we must be doing something right.
  With the present management team in place, and looking at the wider picture, if I was a young player hoping to make a career in the EFL or even higher and did my due diligence about the club, I would have no reservations about joining Doncaster Rovers.

Totally agree with all of that Brian. So why aren't they coming?

[NickDRFC]

  Steve,I am not getting up tight about any signings,if we make an approach for a player, and he doesn't want to come for whatever reason, money or location, it is his loss, they will find it difficult to play for better employers, or in front of better supporters.
  And if they look at most of our recent players and loan players, they would realise that most of those have had either a good few years with us, and most of our past players enjoyed their time with us, and while here became better players.
  And most of our recent loan players have improved enough to be sought after by other clubs and quite a few are now plying their trade in the Championship, so we must be doing something right.
  With the present management team in place, and looking at the wider picture, if I was a young player hoping to make a career in the EFL or even higher and did my due diligence about the club, I would have no reservations about joining Doncaster Rovers. 

Agree with most of that other than the supporters. Whilst we have an excellent core there’s always plenty of empty seats at the KM and plenty of idiots in the crowd (barely a home game goes past without something on here about some daft comments or behaviour).

[selby]

  Nick both Manchester teams Spurs and Arsenal have had empty seats lately, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby County, Midlesborough, even Newcastle and Sunderland, because the game is slowly getting sterile, with only very few teams able to win anything, the price of tickets,and times of Kick offs clashing with other things to do, and overkill on TV and attracting kids from our area to watch mostly sterile predictable premiership games with everything slanted to give big city teams an advantage.
  Bigger clubs than ourselves are suffering from lower attendances, a lot more critical to their future than ours.

[selby]

  Steve, how do you know they are not coming? I don't know if we have tried to get anybody to come yet, do you? I have read on here we have had players coming, I have read in the local papers we might have someone coming, and in every case eventually the club, or the manager, or SM on here, have denied the rumours. so do you know any of the rumours are true? If you do you have more knowledge than myself.
  Some say on here it has come from someone at the club, well I see quite a few people at the club, and nobody has even mentioned anything to me about any transfers in or out. I have usually got to know well after some on here.
  I quite like it that way, it increases the surprise if we get someone in, so am not bothered until things happen, and I don't think many genuinely do. Who can genuinely say they knew Sheaf, Halliday, Ennis, James, Dieng, and Bingham were coming to the club before they were announced, we have even had players train with the club a couple of weeks before their arrival has been known.
  My view is we just want to calm down,but others will not let it go and show their nervousness about the situation, even player colour has been mentioned about why a certain player would not be considered by this club, what a load of tosh.
  I am sure the management will get some of their targets, if there are any that is,  and whatever the time scale it takes so be it.
  My own dread is will any players leave for richer clubs? as it is difficult to deny a young talented lad the chance of life changing riches if the chance comes along. And we have a couple of players who could attract bigger clubs to come in for them.

[drfchound]

Point of order selby, I think it was very obvious that the post about player skin colour was a joke and was not to be taken seriously.
(It wasn’t made by me by the way.......for those that didn’t know).

[NickDRFC]

  Nick both Manchester teams Spurs and Arsenal have had empty seats lately, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby County, Midlesborough, even Newcastle and Sunderland, because the game is slowly getting sterile, with only very few teams able to win anything, the price of tickets,and times of Kick offs clashing with other things to do, and overkill on TV and attracting kids from our area to watch mostly sterile predictable premiership games with everything slanted to give big city teams an advantage.
  Bigger clubs than ourselves are suffering from lower attendances, a lot more critical to their future than ours.

I think you’re barking up the wrong tree with PL clubs - their attendances as a %age of ground capacity (see below) is still very good, even for a club that’s being “boycotted” like Newcastle. Besides, attendances aren’t anywhere near as important for teams like that given the money from Sky that they get - match day income is a drop in the ocean.

Take your point for the other teams, but every one of the struggling teams you’ve mentioned there is getting a higher proportion of fans through the gate than we are every weekend, some significantly so. FYI the attendance figures come from worldfootball.net and capacity from Wikipedia - might be some margin for error!

I think it’s hyperbole saying that any player signing for us would find it “difficult to play in front of better supporters”, both for quantity and quality.

Arsenal - 60,281/60,704 - 99.3%
Man City - 54,391/55,097 - 98.7%
Man Utd - 73,427/74,878 - 98.1%
Spurs - 59,464/62,303 - 95.4%
Newcastle - 47,587/52,388 - 90.8%

Derby - 26,686/33,597 - 79.4%
Sunderland - 30,169/49,000 - 61.6%
Wednesday - 23,958/39,732 - 60.3%
Middlesbrough - 19,798/34,742 - 57.0%

Rovers - 8,498/15,232 - 55.8%

[anton123]

Piggots white so we not going to be signing him lol , joking aside I am starting to think there may be some truth to it

Why would u say that ?? When I’m suggesting we sign people of all colour and not just 1 ?

Does the colour of a players skin bother you?

[anton123]

D b r why would u say that ? When I’m saying sign players of all colours not just 1 ?

[selby]

  In every case attendance money only, all those clubs lose more money percentage wise than we do.
  None of those clubs could pay anywhere near the players wages with attendance money only. And I would think that as a percentage of player wages covered by attendances we are up with most of them.
  Take the sky and other commercial moneys away from those clubs, and they could not survive. As we wouldn't I accept, but their outside influences are far greater than ours, and could at any time become problematic, and could evolve very quickly as Saracens Rugby team have just found out.
  Another good example is Bolton Wanderers, they never thought it could happen to them either.