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DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #60 on July 15, 2020, 02:04:19 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.



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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #61 on July 15, 2020, 02:45:28 pm by redarmy82 »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.

How many years has Bramall realistically got left where he wants or is able to be involved. No disrespect, but it won't be forever

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #62 on July 15, 2020, 03:02:56 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.

How many years has Bramall realistically got left where he wants or is able to be involved. No disrespect, but it won't be forever

Which is one of the reasons behind Club Doncaster.

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #63 on July 15, 2020, 05:32:32 pm by redarmy82 »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.

How many years has Bramall realistically got left where he wants or is able to be involved. No disrespect, but it won't be forever

Which is one of the reasons behind Club Doncaster.

Is that realistically going to plug a several million yearly shortfall?

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #64 on July 15, 2020, 05:37:52 pm by vaya »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.

How many years has Bramall realistically got left where he wants or is able to be involved. No disrespect, but it won't be forever

Which is one of the reasons behind Club Doncaster.

Is that realistically going to plug a several million yearly shortfall?

Perhaps you could outline your plans, so we could discuss them?

Actually, I'll make that a general question in retrospect. How do other clubs plan for a continuation of investment long-term?
« Last Edit: July 15, 2020, 06:00:21 pm by vaya »

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #65 on July 15, 2020, 06:01:53 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.

How many years has Bramall realistically got left where he wants or is able to be involved. No disrespect, but it won't be forever

Does anyone know how long he's got left? How do you plan for that?

I would imagine he will decide when and if the time is right, whether he would want to look at some form of succession planning. Who knows what the state of football and the club will be in come that time, whether there will be investors looking for an opportunity etc or whether nobody will want to touch a football club with a bargepole.

Dave Whelan decided the time was right at some point but look how that turned out. Did he really put the club in safe hands or was it a case of cutting and running getting the best deal for him?

I would imagine TB will want to keep developing the Club Doncaster model with a view of getting to the point where his support isn't essential. Pre Covid, we may have been at that point already.

From what we've heard so far, it's business as usual.

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« Reply #66 on July 15, 2020, 06:23:34 pm by vaya »
Is there not a danger here of a reverse-engineered narrative developing in which 'succession' is/was dependent on the continued involvement of the Watsons?

As has been outlined previously they had apparently been in some discussion about their current role in the club for a while.

Given that we don't actually know what the club has planned long-term, it may be the case that they weren't factored into any plans, and their departure doesn't have any effect on what the club's laid out going forward.

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #67 on July 15, 2020, 07:13:50 pm by Chris Black come back »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.

How many years has Bramall realistically got left where he wants or is able to be involved. No disrespect, but it won't be forever

Does anyone know how long he's got left? How do you plan for that?

I would imagine he will decide when and if the time is right, whether he would want to look at some form of succession planning. Who knows what the state of football and the club will be in come that time, whether there will be investors looking for an opportunity etc or whether nobody will want to touch a football club with a bargepole.

Dave Whelan decided the time was right at some point but look how that turned out. Did he really put the club in safe hands or was it a case of cutting and running getting the best deal for him?

I would imagine TB will want to keep developing the Club Doncaster model with a view of getting to the point where his support isn't essential. Pre Covid, we may have been at that point already.

From what we've heard so far, it's business as usual.

All those succesful local heroes have left and it has all gone to shit - Jack Walker at Blackburn Rovers, Sir John Hall at Newcastle United, Dave Whelan at Wigan Athletic. When you put together a genuine local attachment to a club and a stack of cash, that is a unique combination of someone wanting nothing in return but success. Whoever replaces them even if they have more cash, they want something different ultimately and that usually is what leaves them all in a mess.

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #68 on July 15, 2020, 07:21:44 pm by drfchound »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.






Correct DBR, who knows what TB has suggested about needing new investment.
For all we know he might be intending to cover all of the debts himself.

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« Reply #69 on July 15, 2020, 07:32:30 pm by ravenrover »
Hasn't Gavin gone on record saying that if the owners pulled the plug we would survive due to Club Doncaster setup?

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« Reply #70 on July 15, 2020, 07:46:30 pm by silent majority »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.



Correct DBR, who knows what TB has suggested about needing new investment.
For all we know he might be intending to cover all of the debts himself.


He hasn't said anything about needing new investment, and that's because he has no intention of looking for anyone or anybody.

He's already stated he'll pick up the tab going forward, as stated in the clubs press statement.

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #71 on July 15, 2020, 07:55:14 pm by redarmy82 »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.



Correct DBR, who knows what TB has suggested about needing new investment.
For all we know he might be intending to cover all of the debts himself.


He hasn't said anything about needing new investment, and that's because he has no intention of looking for anyone or anybody.

He's already stated he'll pick up the tab going forward, as stated in the clubs press statement.

Which is great news, and greatly appreciated. I just wondered if there was a plan for the future, when he perhaps departs himself. I just know the club always looks at a long term plan, and thought it was something which may have been considered.

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #72 on July 15, 2020, 07:59:07 pm by silent majority »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.



Correct DBR, who knows what TB has suggested about needing new investment.
For all we know he might be intending to cover all of the debts himself.


He hasn't said anything about needing new investment, and that's because he has no intention of looking for anyone or anybody.

He's already stated he'll pick up the tab going forward, as stated in the clubs press statement.

Which is great news, and greatly appreciated. I just wondered if there was a plan for the future, when he perhaps departs himself. I just know the club always looks at a long term plan, and thought it was something which may have been considered.

The plan is to be sustainable. We were very nearly there. And we will be.

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #73 on July 15, 2020, 08:23:56 pm by drfchound »
Nobody has said we are actively looking for new investment or owners. Reading what S_M has said about Terry's commitment, why are we assuming we need AN Other on board?

Given JR gave back all his Rovers memorabilia, I guess, or hope he's enjoying a happy retirement free from the stresses and strains of football management.



Correct DBR, who knows what TB has suggested about needing new investment.
For all we know he might be intending to cover all of the debts himself.


He hasn't said anything about needing new investment, and that's because he has no intention of looking for anyone or anybody.

He's already stated he'll pick up the tab going forward, as stated in the clubs press statement.






I hadn’t, and still haven’t, seen the clubs press statement SM.

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #74 on July 15, 2020, 08:44:58 pm by Campsall rover »
Really think we should not be going into panic mode at this news.

Notice one or two doom mongers have suddenly appeared out of the woodwork that only post when they think the club is about to disintegrate either on the pitch or in this case now, in the boardroom.
Sad very sad.

If your referring to me then I just can't be arsed responding to your drivel most of the time.. got better things to do with my time.. and I'm far far from being a doom mongerer.. but realist Rovers fans will see this as a big concern given only 78 year Bramhall.has any money! I'm as positive as the next man when its positive news.. which this isant!
No i wasn’t referring to you as it happened.
Have you got a guilty conscious then, saying you thought it was you?

What’s all this drivel i post most of the time then?
Please explain.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2020, 10:03:30 pm by Campsall rover »

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drfchound

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« Reply #76 on July 15, 2020, 09:36:50 pm by drfchound »
I hadn’t, and still haven’t, seen the clubs press statement SM.

Posted online yesterday: https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2020/july/andrew-watson-and-sarah-flower-are-to-leave-their-positions-on-the-clubs-board/







Thanks bjw.
I hadn’t read that.
I can’t see from that link though where TB has indicated he will pick up the tab for all the money that he and the Watsons have previously shared.

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« Reply #77 on July 15, 2020, 11:57:19 pm by IDM »
I thinks there is something on the DFP website..


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« Reply #79 on July 16, 2020, 11:55:59 am by silent majority »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.

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« Reply #80 on July 16, 2020, 12:21:16 pm by GazLaz »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.


How much was the shortfall last year Martin, any idea?

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Re: The Watson's have resigned from the board
« Reply #81 on July 16, 2020, 12:34:54 pm by EasyforDennis »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.

Is there ever any feedback for supporters as to what actually gets discussed at these Supporters Board meetings?

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« Reply #82 on July 16, 2020, 12:47:41 pm by Pancho Regan »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.

That's reassuring, thanks SM.

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« Reply #83 on July 16, 2020, 03:42:34 pm by silent majority »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.


How much was the shortfall last year Martin, any idea?

This last 12 months? No. Accounts won't have been drawn up yet.

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« Reply #84 on July 16, 2020, 03:49:01 pm by silent majority »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.

Is there ever any feedback for supporters as to what actually gets discussed at these Supporters Board meetings?

Well I report in bits and pieces, depending on the subject. I've never seen anybody else do it though.

The club have the responsibility of publishing the minutes and they used to post them on this page here;

https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/fans/supporters-board/

Tuesdays meeting, without giving anything away as such, had us all discussing;

The current financial position of the club
A return to football, and crowds at games
Pre-season games
The EFL proposals on squad caps and salary caps
IRSWT and how its progressing
Coach travel + allocation of fixtures
Andy Watson stepping down
Club shop and kit launch

As you can see a fair amount of topics covered.



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« Reply #85 on July 16, 2020, 03:57:59 pm by EasyforDennis »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.

Is there ever any feedback for supporters as to what actually gets discussed at these Supporters Board meetings?

Well I report in bits and pieces, depending on the subject. I've never seen anybody else do it though.

The club have the responsibility of publishing the minutes and they used to post them on this page here;

https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/fans/supporters-board/

Tuesdays meeting, without giving anything away as such, had us all discussing;

The current financial position of the club
A return to football, and crowds at games
Pre-season games
The EFL proposals on squad caps and salary caps
IRSWT and how its progressing
Coach travel + allocation of fixtures
Andy Watson stepping down
Club shop and kit launch

As you can see a fair amount of topics covered.

Thank you

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« Reply #86 on July 16, 2020, 09:26:54 pm by Donnyjim »
Thank you Terry Bramall. What a guy. Without him we would be in big trouble. We need to all remember what he has done for us and not knock the board when the tough times start. We may be in for some, but just remember what he has done for the club.

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« Reply #87 on July 17, 2020, 09:40:40 am by GazLaz »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.


How much was the shortfall last year Martin, any idea?

This last 12 months? No. Accounts won't have been drawn up yet.


The last financial year I meant. I wasn’t clear.

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« Reply #88 on July 17, 2020, 10:16:34 am by silent majority »
In our discussions it has always been emphasised that Terry would commit himself to funding the shortfall.

That point was re-emphasised at Tuesdays Supporters Board meeting.


How much was the shortfall last year Martin, any idea?

This last 12 months? No. Accounts won't have been drawn up yet.


The last financial year I meant. I wasn’t clear.

Sorry, I should have said the last financial year (the last 12 months) has just ended on the 30th June. Those figures won't be available for quite some time, and when they do they will also capture the first few months of the lockdown. The last set of accounts that I've seen were for the financial year ending 30th June 2019.

 

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