Gun crime USA style

[Ldr]

Cut through the crap. Man who didn’t break law found not guilty. Posters who want to be morally outraged are morally outraged. Whole thread summed up

[Ldr]

I will add that that particular law (along with us gun laws) is a disgrace

[BillyStubbsTears]

Ldr

Cut through the crap. Man who didn’t break law found not guilty. Posters who want to be morally outraged are morally outraged. Whole thread summed up

So do you think as a matter of principle he DIDN'T break the law of Endangering Public Safety by choosing to drive 20 miles to walk down a street carrying an assault rifle? Only that seems like a very dangerous thing to do to me.

[phil old leake]

Sydney Rover
You make all kinds of assumptions about everything in your early threads
The people who Rittenhouse shot were white
Your non sensical race argument is totally irrelevant in this
Why do you make these assumptions and how do you manage to make white on white killings an anti black issue
Please explain your thought process

It’s like saying that the atmosphere at the Keepmoat was shut because all the Donny whites went to watch Leeds

[SydneyRover]

Sydney Rover
You make all kinds of assumptions about everything in your early threads
The people who Rittenhouse shot were white
Your non sensical race argument is totally irrelevant in this
Why do you make these assumptions and how do you manage to make white on white killings an anti black issue
Please explain your thought process

It’s like saying that the atmosphere at the Keepmoat was shut because all the Donny whites went to watch Leeds

If you quote the text you are referring to I will try to answer your questions pol.

[Ldr]

Ldr

Cut through the crap. Man who didn’t break law found not guilty. Posters who want to be morally outraged are morally outraged. Whole thread summed up

So do you think as a matter of principle he DIDN'T break the law of Endangering Public Safety by choosing to drive 20 miles to walk down a street carrying an assault rifle? Only that seems like a very dangerous thing to do to me.

I’d tend to agree but the fact is he didn’t break the law. Leave emotion at the door and that’s the fact of this. The law is an ass but that’s another debate.

[SydneyRover]

The charges, the judge dropped a charge of breaking the curfew and maybe another charge.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explainer-charges-kyle-rittenhouse-face-81283095

''That jury never got to consider the gun possession charge — one that at one time had seemed a slam-dunk for the prosecution. Rittenhouse was 17 at the time, and there was no dispute that he was armed the night of the shootings with a Smith and Wesson AR-style semi-automatic rifle strapped to his chest''

https://apnews.com/article/why-did-judge-drop-kyle-rittenhouse-gun-charge-d923d8e255d6b1f5c9c9fc5b74e691fb

[SydneyRover]

Sydney Rover
You make all kinds of assumptions about everything in your early threads
The people who Rittenhouse shot were white
Your non sensical race argument is totally irrelevant in this
Why do you make these assumptions and how do you manage to make white on white killings an anti black issue
Please explain your thought process

It’s like saying that the atmosphere at the Keepmoat was shut because all the Donny whites went to watch Leeds

I'll try

Race is always an issue in the US where law is concerned, you are most likely to get arrested if you're black, you're most likely to die by violence if you're black and you're most likely to be found guilty of anything if you're black, if you are not black the odds a greatly in your favour, you know like being stopped and searched in the UK if you're white there is much less chance. Now do you get it?

[ravenrover]

Ldr

Cut through the crap. Man who didn’t break law found not guilty. Posters who want to be morally outraged are morally outraged. Whole thread summed up

So do you think as a matter of principle he DIDN'T break the law of Endangering Public Safety by choosing to drive 20 miles to walk down a street carrying an assault rifle? Only that seems like a very dangerous thing to do to me.

I’d tend to agree but the fact is he didn’t break the law. Leave emotion at the door and that’s the fact of this. The law is an ass but that’s another debate.

Aaaat last, LDR you get the whole point of the thread

[Ldr]

Then maybe you need to work on your English, your OP insinuating that the jury was wrong to acquit is totally wrong legally

[phil old leake]

Sydney Rover from my personal reading and understanding of the facts you are referring to you have quoted them correctly

As I understand it most people killed in the USA are black.  Killed by black people

Race is always an issue in the USA but in this case I still don’t understand your thinking process

It reads to me like your on some kind of personal crusade about issues that you obviously feel strongly about

To assume he would have been convicted if he was black is your personal view

In my personal opinion it’s this type of rhetoric that puts race equality back and works against working together

Accept it for what it was a decision by the jury that has divided a nation about gun law.  Race was not involved

[ravenrover]

Then maybe you need to work on your English, your OP insinuating that the jury was wrong to acquit is totally wrong legally

Shouldn't make assumptions

[Ldr]

Then maybe you need to work on your English, your OP insinuating that the jury was wrong to acquit is totally wrong legally

Shouldn't make assumptions

Should write clearly if you want to make a point

[drfchound]

Sydney Rover from my personal reading and understanding of the facts you are referring to you have quoted them correctly

As I understand it most people killed in the USA are black.  Killed by black people

Race is always an issue in the USA but in this case I still don’t understand your thinking process

It reads to me like your on some kind of personal crusade about issues that you obviously feel strongly about

To assume he would have been convicted if he was black is your personal view

In my personal opinion it’s this type of rhetoric that puts race equality back and works against working together

Accept it for what it was a decision by the jury that has divided a nation about gun law.  Race was not involved

 
All of it phil.

[SydneyRover]

Sydney Rover from my personal reading and understanding of the facts you are referring to you have quoted them correctly

As I understand it most people killed in the USA are black.  Killed by black people

Race is always an issue in the USA but in this case I still don’t understand your thinking process

It reads to me like your on some kind of personal crusade about issues that you obviously feel strongly about

To assume he would have been convicted if he was black is your personal view

In my personal opinion it’s this type of rhetoric that puts race equality back and works against working together

Accept it for what it was a decision by the jury that has divided a nation about gun law.  Race was not involved

As I said phil, race is involved with every bit if the law in the US and most likely the bit where the judge interpreted it to toss out out the charge against Rittenhouse carrying arms when underage, which by all accounts would have been a lay down misere.

It is my personal view backed up by centuries of similar cases, did you read either of the links I posted. You seem to be on a personal crusade to ignore history.

[phil old leake]

Yes I have read both the links

I’m not disagreeing that the verdict was a bit bazaar but where does race come into the juries decision.
I stand by what I say

[SydneyRover]

Yes I have read both the links

I’m not disagreeing that the verdict was a bit bazaar but where does race come into the juries decision.
I stand by what I say

Yes repeated, but that doesn't change the fact that as far as crime is concerned black people get the rough end of the pineapple and had a black person had been on trial for these crimes he would most likely have received a different verdict.

[SydneyRover]

Here's some more for you phil, this is not hard to find, it has been studied, examined and reported for decades and very little has been done, I wonder why, maybe because there is a majority that refuse steadfastly to believe the evidence.

''Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System''

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

[tyke1962]

Here's some more for you phil, this is not hard to find, it has been studied, examined and reported for decades and very little has been done, I wonder why, maybe because there is a majority that refuse steadfastly to believe the evidence.

''Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System''

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

Now remind me did the US not have a black President who won two elections ?

Here's the thing right and whilst you sit behind what ever device you use bleating about the world the facts are that you support  middle of the the road solutions to rid yourself of what ever it is you bleat about .

And you wonder why nowt changes ?

[SydneyRover]

Here's some more for you phil, this is not hard to find, it has been studied, examined and reported for decades and very little has been done, I wonder why, maybe because there is a majority that refuse steadfastly to believe the evidence.

''Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System''

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

Now remind me did the US not have a black President who won two elections ?

Here's the thing right and whilst you sit behind what ever device you use bleating about the world the facts are that you support  middle of the the road solutions to rid yourself of what ever it is you bleat about .

And you wonder why nowt changes ?

but in real life I'm a doer tyke, not a spoiler or a keyboard warrier, I get out there and work for what I believe in, nowt changes in your life I assume because nowt changes.

[tyke1962]

Here's some more for you phil, this is not hard to find, it has been studied, examined and reported for decades and very little has been done, I wonder why, maybe because there is a majority that refuse steadfastly to believe the evidence.

''Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System''

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

Now remind me did the US not have a black President who won two elections ?

Here's the thing right and whilst you sit behind what ever device you use bleating about the world the facts are that you support  middle of the the road solutions to rid yourself of what ever it is you bleat about .

And you wonder why nowt changes ?

but in real life I'm a doer tyke, not a spoiler or a keyboard warrier, I get out there and work for what I believe in, nowt changes in your life I assume because nowt changes.

You don't get change sitting in the middle Sydney .

[SydneyRover]

Here's some more for you phil, this is not hard to find, it has been studied, examined and reported for decades and very little has been done, I wonder why, maybe because there is a majority that refuse steadfastly to believe the evidence.

''Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System''

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

Now remind me did the US not have a black President who won two elections ?

Here's the thing right and whilst you sit behind what ever device you use bleating about the world the facts are that you support  middle of the the road solutions to rid yourself of what ever it is you bleat about .

And you wonder why nowt changes ?

but in real life I'm a doer tyke, not a spoiler or a keyboard warrier, I get out there and work for what I believe in, nowt changes in your life I assume because nowt changes.

You don't get change sitting in the middle Sydney .

First you make an extremely naive comment about US politics and then you try to start an argument on a subject you appear to know very little. That about sums you up tyke, a man of the past.

[tyke1962]

Here's some more for you phil, this is not hard to find, it has been studied, examined and reported for decades and very little has been done, I wonder why, maybe because there is a majority that refuse steadfastly to believe the evidence.

''Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System''

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

Now remind me did the US not have a black President who won two elections ?

Here's the thing right and whilst you sit behind what ever device you use bleating about the world the facts are that you support  middle of the the road solutions to rid yourself of what ever it is you bleat about .

And you wonder why nowt changes ?

but in real life I'm a doer tyke, not a spoiler or a keyboard warrier, I get out there and work for what I believe in, nowt changes in your life I assume because nowt changes.

You don't get change sitting in the middle Sydney .

First you make an extremely naive comment about US politics and then you try to start an argument on a subject you appear to know very little. That about sums you up tyke, a man of the past.

There's nowt naive about a Labour government who won three elections and changed nowt .

Or a black American President who equally changed nowt despite two terms .

You hide behind your keyboard all you want with your centrist postings but my view stacks up Sydney .

The centre of politics gave us Trump and Johnson .

That's a solid fact .

Whose the naive one now then ? .

[SydneyRover]

Man: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.

Receptionist: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?

Man: No, I haven't, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?

Man: Well, what is the cost?

Receptionist: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.

Man: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.

Receptionist: Fine. Well, I'll see who's free at the moment.

[Axholme Lion]

If there was no rioting and looting they wouldn't have been shot.

[SydneyRover]

If there was no rioting and looting they wouldn't have been shot.

AL for US president

[phil old leake]

Sydney Rover

We or I will have to agree to disagree with you Amazon thought process that everything appears to be race related

I read yet another one of your links which states what we all already know that  statistics show that more black people are killed in the USA than other ethnic groups.

Strangely that’s not disputed it’s factual. 

It still doesn’t have anything to do with the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse or his trial

If you maintain it has then I’d love to have a pint of whatever you’ve been on

Reply if you feel the need I won’t be entertaining your thought process any more on this subject

[SydneyRover]

Phil, let's get down to a floor where we can start to have a sensible conversation where you show me your reasoning for your answers and not just disagreeing with my comment.

Do you agree or not.

There is a high level of racism in all areas of American society and government in the US

Are minority groups subject to racial bias in education, work, policing, justice etc.