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Canadian Rover

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #30 on January 22, 2022, 10:31:27 pm by Canadian Rover »
We'd be a much much better team with Marquis up front that's for sure.



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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #31 on January 22, 2022, 10:32:19 pm by drfchound »
If Bogle plays every game until the end of the season, only scores three goals and we somehow avoid relegation then he will have done plenty to help the cause.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #32 on January 22, 2022, 10:37:16 pm by Chris Black come back »
It’s an amazing story how now four managers have decided not to pick Ed Williams, even when facing the direst of injury crises. The guy can’t catch a break. He’s always looked tidy. No nowhere near squad let alone the team.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #33 on January 22, 2022, 10:39:25 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
It’s an amazing story how now four managers have decided not to pick Ed Williams, even when facing the direst of injury crises. The guy can’t catch a break. He’s always looked tidy. No nowhere near squad let alone the team.

Ed Williams is injured.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #34 on January 22, 2022, 10:40:45 pm by Chris Black come back »
Another one! He never plays so can only be yet another training ground injury.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #35 on January 22, 2022, 10:47:01 pm by roversdude »
Hoden says there’s possibly something happening regarding Ed Williams (sounded like a mutual consent scenario)

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #36 on January 23, 2022, 07:06:32 am by Sammy Chung was King »
Bogle could play a big part in keeping us up. Strong on the ball and a decent finisher. Dodoo I would think he fancies scoring every time he’s on the pitch at the minute. Lovely drift in off the wing and great guided finish. Most players if they get a bit of confidence it does help. If he keeps chipping in with a few he might be seen in a different light at the end of the season. He has got ability there is no doubt.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #37 on January 23, 2022, 09:13:49 am by murham »
Boggle should have played from the beginning it was our biggest mistake......but now is another time and at last we have something resembling a forward line
It’s not hard is it?

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« Reply #38 on January 23, 2022, 01:46:28 pm by GazLaz »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

You are wrong.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #39 on January 23, 2022, 01:58:13 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Go on. I'm all ears.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #40 on January 23, 2022, 02:03:17 pm by dickos1 »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #41 on January 23, 2022, 02:47:45 pm by Chris Black come back »
I presume Omar will not be offered a new deal for next season, whatever league we are in come August.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #42 on January 23, 2022, 03:15:21 pm by Padge_DRFC »
I presume Omar will not be offered a new deal for next season, whatever league we are in come August.

Highly unlikely with Agard and Dodoo contracted next season. The manager will want better and more than likely can with the wages Bogle picks up.

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« Reply #43 on January 23, 2022, 03:55:49 pm by drfchound »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

I’m waiting to see what the evidence is.

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« Reply #44 on January 23, 2022, 04:27:20 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

1) Bogle came on as sub against Accrington and put in a decent performance.

2) Immediately afterwards, Wellens made his annoyance with Bogle not leaving perfectly clear in an interview with Hoden. That interview ended with Wellens shrugging when asked if Bogle would be included in his plans.

3) Wellens never again picked Bogle in his squad, while picking arguably the worst centre forward I've ever seen represent DRFC another 16 times.

There's an obvious conclusion to be taken from that. If Gaz is saying I've got it wrong, I'd be fascinated to know what the actual reason is.
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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #45 on January 23, 2022, 04:52:24 pm by drfchound »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

1) Bogle came on as sub against Accrington and put in a decent performance.

2) Immediately afterwards, Wellens made his annoyance with Bogle not leaving perfectly clear in an interview with Hoden. That interview ended with Wellens shrugging when asked if Bogle would be included in his plans.

3) Wellens never again picked Bogle in his squad, while picking arguably the worst centre forward I've ever seen represent DRFC another 16 times.

There's an obvious conclusion to be taken from that. If Gaz is saying I've got it wrong, I'd be fascinated to know what the actual reason is.

…..and that is supposed to be evidence that Wellens couldn’t manage his own anger and pride.

Jesus wept.

scawsby steve

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« Reply #46 on January 23, 2022, 05:09:15 pm by scawsby steve »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

1) Bogle came on as sub against Accrington and put in a decent performance.

2) Immediately afterwards, Wellens made his annoyance with Bogle not leaving perfectly clear in an interview with Hoden. That interview ended with Wellens shrugging when asked if Bogle would be included in his plans.

3) Wellens never again picked Bogle in his squad, while picking arguably the worst centre forward I've ever seen represent DRFC another 16 times.

There's an obvious conclusion to be taken from that. If Gaz is saying I've got it wrong, I'd be fascinated to know what the actual reason is.

…..and that is supposed to be evidence that Wellens couldn’t manage his own anger and pride.

Jesus wept.

To be fair, mate, BST's right about RW picking Cukur ahead of Bogle. You, me, and most people on this forum, wouldn't pick Cukur in a Sunday League team.

The vibes coming out of the club now, from Martin and others, about how GM is galvanising players and backroom staff, would suggest to me that RW seemed to have personality issues that were affecting the club.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #47 on January 23, 2022, 05:18:11 pm by drfchound »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

1) Bogle came on as sub against Accrington and put in a decent performance.

2) Immediately afterwards, Wellens made his annoyance with Bogle not leaving perfectly clear in an interview with Hoden. That interview ended with Wellens shrugging when asked if Bogle would be included in his plans.

3) Wellens never again picked Bogle in his squad, while picking arguably the worst centre forward I've ever seen represent DRFC another 16 times.

There's an obvious conclusion to be taken from that. If Gaz is saying I've got it wrong, I'd be fascinated to know what the actual reason is.

…..and that is supposed to be evidence that Wellens couldn’t manage his own anger and pride.

Jesus wept.

To be fair, mate, BST's right about RW picking Cukur ahead of Bogle. You, me, and most people on this forum, wouldn't pick Cukur in a Sunday League team.

The vibes coming out of the club now, from Martin and others, about how GM is galvanising players and backroom staff, would suggest to me that RW seemed to have personality issues that were affecting the club.

SS, I fully agree about Cukur, I think he is the slowest CF I have ever seen.
But Wellens picking him isn’t in any way EVIDENCE of him not being able to manage his own anger and pride.
Speculation at best.

scawsby steve

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #48 on January 23, 2022, 05:32:23 pm by scawsby steve »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

1) Bogle came on as sub against Accrington and put in a decent performance.

2) Immediately afterwards, Wellens made his annoyance with Bogle not leaving perfectly clear in an interview with Hoden. That interview ended with Wellens shrugging when asked if Bogle would be included in his plans.

3) Wellens never again picked Bogle in his squad, while picking arguably the worst centre forward I've ever seen represent DRFC another 16 times.

There's an obvious conclusion to be taken from that. If Gaz is saying I've got it wrong, I'd be fascinated to know what the actual reason is.

…..and that is supposed to be evidence that Wellens couldn’t manage his own anger and pride.

Jesus wept.

To be fair, mate, BST's right about RW picking Cukur ahead of Bogle. You, me, and most people on this forum, wouldn't pick Cukur in a Sunday League team.

The vibes coming out of the club now, from Martin and others, about how GM is galvanising players and backroom staff, would suggest to me that RW seemed to have personality issues that were affecting the club.

SS, I fully agree about Cukur, I think he is the slowest CF I have ever seen.
But Wellens picking him isn’t in any way EVIDENCE of him not being able to manage his own anger and pride.
Speculation at best.

Fair comments, mate. However, there's a bit of a mystery to me about all this. Rovers have got a good reputation for not being a sacking club, especially where results and league position are concerned. We didn't sack Dickov when he got us relegated; we didn't sack Ferguson when he got us relegated, so the speed in which the board sacked RW when there was still enough of the season left to avoid relegation suggests it was more than just his ability in question.

Of course, you're right that it's all just speculation, but I get the distinct feeling that RW was upsetting a lot of people at the club.

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« Reply #49 on January 23, 2022, 05:36:57 pm by drfchound »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

1) Bogle came on as sub against Accrington and put in a decent performance.

2) Immediately afterwards, Wellens made his annoyance with Bogle not leaving perfectly clear in an interview with Hoden. That interview ended with Wellens shrugging when asked if Bogle would be included in his plans.

3) Wellens never again picked Bogle in his squad, while picking arguably the worst centre forward I've ever seen represent DRFC another 16 times.

There's an obvious conclusion to be taken from that. If Gaz is saying I've got it wrong, I'd be fascinated to know what the actual reason is.

…..and that is supposed to be evidence that Wellens couldn’t manage his own anger and pride.

Jesus wept.

To be fair, mate, BST's right about RW picking Cukur ahead of Bogle. You, me, and most people on this forum, wouldn't pick Cukur in a Sunday League team.

The vibes coming out of the club now, from Martin and others, about how GM is galvanising players and backroom staff, would suggest to me that RW seemed to have personality issues that were affecting the club.

SS, I fully agree about Cukur, I think he is the slowest CF I have ever seen.
But Wellens picking him isn’t in any way EVIDENCE of him not being able to manage his own anger and pride.
Speculation at best.

Fair comments, mate. However, there's a bit of a mystery to me about all this. Rovers have got a good reputation for not being a sacking club, especially where results and league position are concerned. We didn't sack Dickov when he got us relegated; we didn't sack Ferguson when he got us relegated, so the speed in which the board sacked RW when there was still enough of the season left to avoid relegation suggests it was more than just his ability in question.

Of course, you're right that it's all just speculation, but I get the distinct feeling that RW was upsetting a lot of people at the club.

Yep, I get that too.
No doubt it will come out eventually what the reasons were.

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« Reply #50 on January 23, 2022, 05:49:36 pm by rich1471 »
One thing I will say. Marquis wouldn't have scored the goal Dodoo did. However the cross of the game from Seaman he would have done. Bogle and Dodoo lack intelligence to be top strikers. Nowhere to be seen there

Bogle is a funny one. When he came on today he showed some impressive strength and has a decent touch too, the same could be said for his substitute appearance at Cambridge and obviously he scored in the game before that. He has something to offer as a target man, but he looks like he could have so much more to give at times, too. Dodoo was still running and chasing to the end, and if Bogle did that too he’d be quite some player.

This was my point earlier in the season.

Bogle's never going to be a world beater but he has something. When a centre forward is a physical presence and holds the ball up, there's always the chance of the breaks falling for you.

If we do, as I expect, go down by 4-5 points,  leaving Bogle out of the side for months while persisting with Cukur will go down as one of the worst managerial decisions in our history.

He wasn’t left out of the squad due to footballing ability though was he.

No. The evidence suggests he was left out because we had a manager who couldn't manage his own anger and pride.

Which evidence have you seen that’s lead you to that conclusion?

1) Bogle came on as sub against Accrington and put in a decent performance.

2) Immediately afterwards, Wellens made his annoyance with Bogle not leaving perfectly clear in an interview with Hoden. That interview ended with Wellens shrugging when asked if Bogle would be included in his plans.

3) Wellens never again picked Bogle in his squad, while picking arguably the worst centre forward I've ever seen represent DRFC another 16 times.

There's an obvious conclusion to be taken from that. If Gaz is saying I've got it wrong, I'd be fascinated to know what the actual reason is.

…..and that is supposed to be evidence that Wellens couldn’t manage his own anger and pride.

Jesus wept.

To be fair, mate, BST's right about RW picking Cukur ahead of Bogle. You, me, and most people on this forum, wouldn't pick Cukur in a Sunday League team.

The vibes coming out of the club now, from Martin and others, about how GM is galvanising players and backroom staff, would suggest to me that RW seemed to have personality issues that were affecting the club.

SS, I fully agree about Cukur, I think he is the slowest CF I have ever seen.
But Wellens picking him isn’t in any way EVIDENCE of him not being able to manage his own anger and pride.
Speculation at best.
would love to have seen a race between him and Mark Sale now he was slow

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #51 on January 23, 2022, 06:02:51 pm by Chris Black come back »
Clownshoes and Gary MacKenzie would finish behind them both.

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« Reply #52 on January 23, 2022, 06:11:12 pm by Janso »
Clownshoes and Gary MacKenzie would finish behind them both.

Gary McKenzie would lose a race against a glacier.

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Re: Dodoo
« Reply #53 on January 23, 2022, 06:48:01 pm by Branton Rover »
I couldn’t go yesterday was working but I imagine Dodoo was playing wide with Agard through the middle - it reminds me how SOD utilised Mark McCammon wide where he could pressurise the fullback - SOD himself said McCammon couldn’t play through the middle he was much better being used as a big wide man

 

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