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drfc1951

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Re: Head of Football Operations
« Reply #240 on April 21, 2022, 11:29:41 am by drfc1951 »
Maybe the delay is because they cannot find anyone suitable for the role. It has been mentioned by me and others that expecting suitable candidates to apply may fail if no one suitable does apply. So maybe through necessity they are out there looking for someone would would be capable.

Having someone in such a pivotal role who lacks all-round quality would be a disaster.

Someone suggested that this is not a management position, but surely the ability to set up and monitor the structure and the individuals within it is very dependent on the ability to manage.

I also have difficulty in understanding why people are calling for decision-making, retained list announcements etc., asap, but these are the sort of issues which surely must be put off until the HoFO has had his chance to be involved.

A Portsmouth supporting mate told me they are still trying to find a suitable hof, 3 months after their last one left.



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idler

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Re: Head of Football Operations
« Reply #241 on April 21, 2022, 12:09:15 pm by idler »
I think the committee will be currently umming and aaaring over whether to have rich tea biscuits or bourbons.
They don’t like to rush. They’ve got all summer. No rush we are a well run club ;)
Hopefully they don’t have an outlook on life like you Sammy.
Always looking for the worst outcome must be far worse than hoping for the best

Sammy Chung was King

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« Reply #242 on April 21, 2022, 12:58:35 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
This board kind of knocks the best out of you. They won’t have an outlook on life like mine, they are too busy picking our new head of football.

idler

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« Reply #243 on April 21, 2022, 02:34:05 pm by idler »
Sammy, believe me since I started watching Rovers in 1958 I really struggle to see a much better board in place in all that time.
They make mistakes just as all people do but to constantly moan solves nothing.

roversdude

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« Reply #244 on April 21, 2022, 03:04:52 pm by roversdude »
Sammy it’s certainly changed you :(

Super Colin Cramb

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« Reply #245 on April 21, 2022, 03:44:57 pm by Super Colin Cramb »
Sammy, believe me since I started watching Rovers in 1958 I really struggle to see a much better board in place in all that time.
They make mistakes just as all people do but to constantly moan solves nothing.

Could not agree more!

Campsall rover

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« Reply #246 on April 21, 2022, 07:43:18 pm by Campsall rover »
We have had an awful season Sammy.  We will recover. Get over it and be thankful we don’t have a board like, Bury, Bolton, Wigan, Derby, Sheff Wed, Scunthorpe, Oldham, ( do I need to go on ) have had in recent years.

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« Reply #247 on April 21, 2022, 07:47:13 pm by drfchound »
Maybe the delay is because they cannot find anyone suitable for the role. It has been mentioned by me and others that expecting suitable candidates to apply may fail if no one suitable does apply. So maybe through necessity they are out there looking for someone would would be capable.

Having someone in such a pivotal role who lacks all-round quality would be a disaster.

Someone suggested that this is not a management position, but surely the ability to set up and monitor the structure and the individuals within it is very dependent on the ability to manage.

I also have difficulty in understanding why people are calling for decision-making, retained list announcements etc., asap, but these are the sort of issues which surely must be put off until the HoFO has had his chance to be involved.

Perhaps the salary on offer for the post is putting some people off.
I have nothing to back that up but in my past business life a good salary always attracted the best people  to apply for the job.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Head of Football Operations
« Reply #248 on April 21, 2022, 08:16:27 pm by Alan Southstand »
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Get over it and be thankful we don’t have a board like, Bury, Bolton, Wigan, Derby, Sheff Wed, Scunthorpe, Oldham, ( do I need to go on ) have had in recent years.

Why not mention Bournemouth, Blackpool, Luton, Coventry or even Blackpool? But, there again, that doesn’t suit the agenda you’re pushing! It’s also worth mentioning that 4 of those, despite having Boards you wouldn’t touch with a barge pole, are all higher up the pyramid than us. And one of the other 3 may be above us next season!

Just a thought.

ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #249 on April 22, 2022, 10:29:43 am by ForsolongaRover »
It seems that an announcement is expected next week. I must say that I find it slightly curious that it is not the Board/CEO who are updating us on this, but the manager. It almost implies that he is involved in the appointment. Perhaps I am mistaken about the hierarchy (or perhaps hierarchy is not an appropriate concept here), but if the Head is truly the overarching authority I would not have expected the team manager to be involved in the appointment.

Maybe I am old-fashioned…

sedwardsdrfc

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« Reply #250 on April 22, 2022, 10:41:41 am by sedwardsdrfc »
He just speaks to the media more often i guess so will be asked the question more often.

normal rules

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« Reply #251 on April 22, 2022, 11:32:37 am by normal rules »
The appointment of the HoF will be no more of a surprise than relegation.

DD

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« Reply #252 on April 22, 2022, 02:39:59 pm by DD »
Copps director of football confirmed
Disaster - pointless appointment - just imagine it "well i don't choose these players”
“Its not my fault they’re not playing in right way”
What evidence is there if his football knowledge? Listening to him on iplayer he is too pally with existing players. This s cheap solution.
Club going in one direction - down & further down

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Head of Football Operations
« Reply #253 on April 22, 2022, 03:12:58 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Copps director of football confirmed
Disaster - pointless appointment - just imagine it "well i don't choose these players”
“Its not my fault they’re not playing in right way”
What evidence is there if his football knowledge? Listening to him on iplayer he is too pally with existing players. This s cheap solution.
Club going in one direction - down & further down

To be fair any HoF would be able to say that. They should act to either bring in better players or a manager that will get them playing however.


ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #254 on April 22, 2022, 04:49:24 pm by ForsolongaRover »
The principle of promotion from within is not what I see as ideal, but there can be little point in condemning the man, even if the club may have not made an ideal appointment in terms of background.

There is no doubting his commitment to the club and I wish him well. Whilst he strikes me as similar in temperament to GM I think he could well be the stick to GM’s carrot.


Ronnie Dovers

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« Reply #255 on April 22, 2022, 05:02:45 pm by Ronnie Dovers »
Copps director of football confirmed
Disaster - pointless appointment - just imagine it "well i don't choose these players”
“Its not my fault they’re not playing in right way”
What evidence is there if his football knowledge? Listening to him on iplayer he is too pally with existing players. This s cheap solution.
Club going in one direction - down & further down

Well at least you gave it some time to see how things progress before forming your extremely strong opinions...

normal rules

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« Reply #256 on April 22, 2022, 05:21:39 pm by normal rules »
If this is successful it will be seen as a masterclass appointment.

If not though……
Well, let’s not go there shall we.

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #257 on April 22, 2022, 05:23:08 pm by Copps is Magic »
What evidence is there if his football knowledge? Listening to him on iplayer he is too pally with existing players. .

Load of rubbish, you don't listen closely enough then.

normal rules

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drfc1951

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« Reply #259 on April 22, 2022, 05:37:06 pm by drfc1951 »
If he applied for the job then he must have confidence in himself to do a good job.
Hope he does well.

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« Reply #260 on April 22, 2022, 07:01:01 pm by since-1969 »
If he applied for the job then he must have confidence in himself to do a good job.
Hope he does well.
On what basis … is it that he needs to work and  we’re daft enough to employ him !!

Campsall rover

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« Reply #261 on April 22, 2022, 07:07:29 pm by Campsall rover »
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Get over it and be thankful we don’t have a board like, Bury, Bolton, Wigan, Derby, Sheff Wed, Scunthorpe, Oldham, ( do I need to go on ) have had in recent years.

Why not mention Bournemouth, Blackpool, Luton, Coventry or even Blackpool? But, there again, that doesn’t suit the agenda you’re pushing! It’s also worth mentioning that 4 of those, despite having Boards you wouldn’t touch with a barge pole, are all higher up the pyramid than us. And one of the other 3 may be above us next season!

Just a thought.
The agenda I am pushing Alan. So what agenda is that?   
I would just be careful what you wish for.

Believe me Alan there is no one more ambitious than me and I mean no one. There is nothing more I would like to see than Rovers competing at the top end of the Championship with the possibility of one season at least in the Premier League.
But reality and pragmatism then takes over and you have to live in the real world.
If TB is not willing to invest at least 15 million into the playing budget per year then it is not likely to happen.
That is his prerogative. It is his money not mine or yours.
I don’t see anyone knocking on the door who will buy the club and throw tens of millions in the pursuit of glory.
Bournemouth & Brentford only achieved what they did because they invested massively in the playing squad.
Very wealthy owners who were prepared to spend heavily.
Until we find that person or persons then we will at best be a yo yo club between the championship and League 1.

I don’t have an agenda Alan I just live in the real world.
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Copps is Magic

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« Reply #262 on April 22, 2022, 07:08:23 pm by Copps is Magic »
If he applied for the job then he must have confidence in himself to do a good job.
Hope he does well.
On what basis … is it that he needs to work and  we’re daft enough to employ him !!

What a stupid thing to say.

I suggest you listen to his interviews... the guy owns businesses and is already checking in his pension. I am sure he is alright for money.

Of course everyone needs/wants to work, for different reasons.

NickDRFC

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« Reply #263 on April 22, 2022, 07:30:41 pm by NickDRFC »
If he applied for the job then he must have confidence in himself to do a good job.
Hope he does well.
On what basis … is it that he needs to work and  we’re daft enough to employ him !!

What a stupid thing to say.

I suggest you listen to his interviews... the guy owns businesses and is already checking in his pension. I am sure he is alright for money.

Of course everyone needs/wants to work, for different reasons.

I’m not sure where this perception of Copps as the Warren Buffet of the former footballing community comes from. Just looked on Companies House and 3 of the companies he’s director of are dormant, 1 has only just been incorporated and the other has met liabilities of £7k. Anyone can start and run a business, doesn’t mean they’re any good at it or making money from it.

Still a daft thing for 1969 to say, mind!

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #264 on April 22, 2022, 08:08:41 pm by Alan Southstand »
I’ve got news for you, Camps, you live in the same World as me - we just see things differently.

Daniel_Smith

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« Reply #265 on April 22, 2022, 08:49:38 pm by Daniel_Smith »
Could the delay in announcing anyone be because it is Coppinger, and they're hoping to bury the news in with relegation being confirmed against Burton? Just a wild guess.

There's a conspiracy in everything if you just look hard enough, eh.  :silly:

Janso's quiet now Copps has been confirmed just before the Burton game  :silly:

Campsall rover

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« Reply #266 on April 22, 2022, 11:19:51 pm by Campsall rover »
I’ve got news for you, Camps, you live in the same World as me - we just see things differently.
Better go and tell TB to spend his millions then.

 

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