Electric buses

[SydneyRover]

You have to get between the fossil fuel lobby and government, you have to drive a bus through it.

Right on cue .........

''Priti Patel accepts £100,000 donation from firm run by oil trader''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/01/priti-patel-accepts-100000-donation-from-firm-run-by-oil-trader-pierre-andurand

[SydneyRover]

Souldn't need so many buses anyway ........................

''Quarter of bus routes axed in England in last decade
Campaigners say Rishi Sunak gave tax break to car users but has not helped public transport users''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/04/quarter-of-bus-routes-axed-in-england-in-last-decade

You have to get between the fossil fuel lobby and government, you have to drive a bus through it.

[albie]

Latest on wireless charging and battery swapping;
https://youtu.be/ezBpIVYLYNs

The wireless pads look like a winner for buses and taxis in the first place.
Fascinating vid!

[normal rules]

If only trains were cheaper. Many more people would use them.

[SydneyRover]

If only trains were cheaper. Many more people would use them.

Cheaper and electric would be great ....................

‘''This really is the future’: HGV manufacturers race to decarbonise trucks''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/29/hgv-manufacturers-race-to-decarbonise-trucks-lorries-carbon-footprint-uk

Here they are talking about decarbonising trucks and electrifying roads when the rail system isn't anywhere near fully electrified yet.

[drfchound]

Trains are so unreliable.
A friend of mine went to London on the train from Donny on Thursday.
There were problems on the line and he was an hour late and therefore missed his meeting.

[River Don]

Trains are so unreliable.
A friend of mine went to London on the train from Donny on Thursday.
There were problems on the line and he was an hour late and therefore missed his meeting.

Where as if he had driven down, there would be no chance of being held up in traffic.

[idler]

You can usually make a detour to avoid hold ups by road. Rail is a different problem.

[River Don]

You can usually make a detour to avoid hold ups by road. Rail is a different problem.

Have you ever tried making a detour off the M1 or A1 into London in heavy traffic?

I've been held up in queuing traffic around Bedford or Stamford often enough to know it's not easy.

[idler]

It is still an option.
There are other places than London.
Over the years I have often had to make diversions on my way to home games. Local knowledge does help of course.

[River Don]

It is still an option.
There are other places than London.
Over the years I have often had to make diversions on my way to home games. Local knowledge does help of course.

Agreed but the example was a meeting in London. Travelling to London on the day for a meeting is always a challenge.

[ravenrover]

Trains are so unreliable.
A friend of mine went to London on the train from Donny on Thursday.
There were problems on the line and he was an hour late and therefore missed his meeting.

And what happened to work from home ZOOM meetings?
Oh I forgot Smogg wants everybody back in the office

[drfchound]

Trains are so unreliable.
A friend of mine went to London on the train from Donny on Thursday.
There were problems on the line and he was an hour late and therefore missed his meeting.

And what happened to work from home ZOOM meetings?
Oh I forgot Smogg wants everybody back in the office

As it happens I am all in favour of zoom meetings instead of travelling to places like London.
I did mention it a few times on the HS2 thread but no less than BST came on very strongly and told me my point of view was rubbish and questioned whether I had ever tried a zoom meeting with multiple people.

[danumdon]

I'll admit i've had zoom meetings with multiple people and it's crap, it has its place and for some small meetings its ok but you can't beat having a proper eye to eye, where you can see people and read the body language as much as what they say verbally.

I also know of staff who are now going through the ringer with mental health issue, they have been at home for so long.

Human interaction, a very important thing for homo sapiens. we've worked in teams ever since we got up off the cave floor after huddling together and went out into the world and made it what it now is.

[SydneyRover]

Zoom meetings are a pain in the arse.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Just like the bleedin obvious of Universal Basic Income improving quality of life all round and saving loads on all the admin, free bus and rail public transport is a no brainer. It effectively taxes those that don't use it whilst allowing them to make that choice. The insane restrictions on using cars by creating ULEZ, Congestion Charges, crazy parking fees, residential parking schemes all disproportionately tax the poorer.

We have a ULEZ coming in Bristol this summer which will create more city wide pollution as people drive around it, some journey distances increasing multiple times, as well as creating more congestion around the city - older cars chugging out pollution in queues. It's very simply a tax, like residntial parking schemes, which authorities have admitted, London complaining that not enough people are getting fined.

[glosterred]

I remember when we had electric buses, we called them Trolly buses then but got rid of them for cheaper petrol versions!

[SydneyRover]

Trams came before that, I believe BB was one of the first drivers

''Doncaster Corporation Tramways was an electric tramway network serving the town of Doncaster, England. It was authorised in 1899, and the first route to Bentley opened in 1902.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doncaster_Tramway