The road to fascism

[selby]

  Is it our countries government fault that those things are happening  world wide  Nudger?
  They have just paid a large proportion of the work force in this country to stay at home for about two years and given grants to the self employed to save their jobs only to be taken advantage of by many in scams.
  There is too much nanny state, there is too much reward for meaningless management jobs, there is too much reliance on service industries that produce nothing and too little manufacturing of marketable goods with value added items, and a poor education system that pedals leftist ideology that is hell bent on bringing down society as we know it.

[Bristol Red Rover]

The authorities have probably turned a blind eye to the pest for so long because people like BST would have called doing otherwise an act of fascism and demanded he is exonerated under the old law, which allowed bad losers like him to disrupt everyone else's life around him, just because he didn't get his own way in a democratic vote.

I have no beef either way re Brexit, but it was far from democratic. For democracy there needs to be honesty and clear information whereby people can make their choice - there wasn't eg the bus, and of course the Clown. Not only that it needs to be a vote for specifics not for "we don't know what will happen, but trust us as we make it up later behind closed doors" - eg Ireland.

This issue of democracy gets banded about all the time. It means a situation whereby power is with the people. When media/information is corrupt and always paid for by wealthy oligarchs with interests, and especially when the media/information is not balanced or even truthful, there is no democracy. This applies to practically every state that calls itself democratic. It's a scam.

[Bristol Red Rover]

  Is it our countries government fault that those things are happening  world wide  Nudger?
  They have just paid a large proportion of the work force in this country to stay at home for about two years and given grants to the self employed to save their jobs only to be taken advantage of by many in scams.
  There is too much nanny state, there is too much reward for meaningless management jobs, there is too much reliance on service industries that produce nothing and too little manufacturing of marketable goods with value added items, and a poor education system that pedals leftist ideology that is hell bent on bringing down society as we know it.

Possibly too much lying by the government too? And too much power held by the wealthy elite? Too much doffing of the cap to those who are placed to rob you? Too much of keeping people in their place by all kinds of methods including dire mental health services where the "cheap" solution is chemical switching off of thinking?

Lots of problems. The solutions are not in liberal free capitalism and elites.

And back to the OP, how is it positive to be giving more power to those in control who in this style of society inevitably have the task of keeping people down, preventing the people from really having a say and preferring them to go about like ants stuffed with a variety of "happy pills".

[wilts rover]

  Is it our countries government fault that those things are happening  world wide  Nudger?
  They have just paid a large proportion of the work force in this country to stay at home for about two years and given grants to the self employed to save their jobs only to be taken advantage of by many in scams.
  There is too much nanny state, there is too much reward for meaningless management jobs, there is too much reliance on service industries that produce nothing and too little manufacturing of marketable goods with value added items, and a poor education system that pedals leftist ideology that is hell bent on bringing down society as we know it.

The Tories have been in power for 12 years. No-one under the age of 17 has been in school under a Labour government.

Most secondary schools have become private acadamies as demanded by these Tory governments.

'leftist ideology'!!!!!

[wilts rover]

  Is it our countries government fault that those things are happening  world wide  Nudger?
  They have just paid a large proportion of the work force in this country to stay at home for about two years and given grants to the self employed to save their jobs only to be taken advantage of by many in scams.
  There is too much nanny state, there is too much reward for meaningless management jobs, there is too much reliance on service industries that produce nothing and too little manufacturing of marketable goods with value added items, and a poor education system that pedals leftist ideology that is hell bent on bringing down society as we know it.

Possibly too much lying by the government too? And too much power held by the wealthy elite? Too much doffing of the cap to those who are placed to rob you? Too much of keeping people in their place by all kinds of methods including dire mental health services where the "cheap" solution is chemical switching off of thinking?

Lots of problems. The solutions are not in liberal free capitalism and elites.

And back to the OP, how is it positive to be giving more power to those in control who in this style of society inevitably have the task of keeping people down, preventing the people from really having a say and preferring them to go about like ants stuffed with a variety of "happy pills".

And feeding them bull***t propoganda sso that they believe the problems are caused by the people not in power rather than those who have been in power for a decade.

That is straight out of the fascist playbook - sieze control of the means of information and spread misinformation about the opposition.

[SydneyRover]

This man has been stood there for 6 yrs shouting abuse at someone.  Depending what he has been shouting it could could possibly meet the criteria for arrest under the Public Order Act. 

There doesn’t need to be more legislation he just needs dealing with. Obviously I do t know how bad it has been and whether it has all been directed at individuals

If person can be arrested for what they say rather than the volume it's surprising that johnson has never been arrested.