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roversdude

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Taylor
« on March 18, 2023, 02:27:01 pm by roversdude »
Nice to see Taylor on the pitch with Anderson



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DD

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Re: Taylor
« Reply #1 on March 18, 2023, 04:43:39 pm by DD »
Why? Taylor is costing the club an absolute fortune - he’s never fit and not good enough - even in this crap side!

ravenrover

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Re: Taylor
« Reply #2 on March 18, 2023, 06:25:35 pm by ravenrover »
Go on then, how much is he on?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #3 on March 18, 2023, 06:29:45 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Why? Taylor is costing the club an absolute fortune - he’s never fit and not good enough - even in this crap side!

A fit Taylor from 2.5 years ago would be by far the best player in our squad today.

He ended his career by going full blooded into a physical challenge at top speed.

Not much chance of that happening to any of the players in the current squad.

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Re: Taylor
« Reply #4 on March 18, 2023, 07:08:59 pm by karldew »
Probably play better over a season with 1 leg than what we’ve seen from Molly

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Re: Taylor
« Reply #5 on March 19, 2023, 09:13:56 am by ravenrover »
Why? Taylor is costing the club an absolute fortune - he’s never fit and not good enough - even in this crap side!
I'll ask you again, how much is he on?

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Re: Taylor
« Reply #6 on March 19, 2023, 09:30:24 am by Donnywolf »
Why? Taylor is costing the club an absolute fortune - he’s never fit and not good enough - even in this crap side!

A fit Taylor from 2.5 years ago would be by far the best player in our squad today.

He ended his career by going full blooded into a physical challenge at top speed.

Not much chance of that happening to any of the players in the current squad.

I would have to defend the current players by saying they probably DO go into tackles at full speed BUT their top speeds are probably only a third of his.


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Re: Taylor
« Reply #7 on March 19, 2023, 12:54:16 pm by steve@dcfd »
Why? Taylor is costing the club an absolute fortune - he’s never fit and not good enough - even in this crap side!
I'll ask you again, how much is he on?
His contract was negotiated when we didn’t have a manager so I suspect Mr Baldwin or Blunt Will made sure it was good for the club. Whether we should have given him a 3 year contract is debatable but it was said at the time in the media he would be moving closer to Doncaster. But I wouldn’t expect any player for DRFC is on a fortune.

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Re: Taylor
« Reply #8 on March 19, 2023, 01:07:53 pm by ravenrover »
He is costing the club a fortune.... based on what DD?

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« Reply #9 on March 19, 2023, 01:31:39 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Don’t agree with the sentiment because it’s not his fault he’s had bad injuries. But it’s hard to argue he’s not cost us a fortune since then in wages vs the number of games played.

Pointless asking anyone exactly what but you can say this based on him been a good L1 player, probably our best player, and in the knowledge that footballers are generally paid quite well.

So turn it on it’s head. Don’t you think he’s cost us a fortune? And if not based on what?

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« Reply #10 on March 19, 2023, 01:44:56 pm by Chris Black come back »
I haven't gone through the appearance data on Taylor for some time but it was remarkable the last time I did this just how few 90 minutes he had ever completed for us. People say he is an impact player and we can't expect him to complete a full game. Well, he is likely to have always been one of our higher earners and could we really afford scarce resources going on an impact players. And well, his impact has been sporadic shall we say. The injuries are an entirely separate issue that is clearly extremely unfortunate for him.

ravenrover

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« Reply #11 on March 19, 2023, 01:48:57 pm by ravenrover »
Don’t agree with the sentiment because it’s not his fault he’s had bad injuries. But it’s hard to argue he’s not cost us a fortune since then in wages vs the number of games played.

Pointless asking anyone exactly what but you can say this based on him been a good L1 player, probably our best player, and in the knowledge that footballers are generally paid quite well.

So turn it on it’s head. Don’t you think he’s cost us a fortune? And if not based on what?
I don't care or know what Taylor is costing, DD made a statement I'm asking for his justification in making it, based on what?
Taylor is under contract, he is injured sh!t happens

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Taylor
« Reply #12 on March 19, 2023, 01:56:34 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Reading this thread is almost enough to make you think that player injury insurance doesn't exist.

sedwardsdrfc

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« Reply #13 on March 19, 2023, 02:04:58 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Reading this thread is almost enough to make you think that player injury insurance doesn't exist.

Wonder what his renewal rate for this season!

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #14 on March 19, 2023, 02:07:54 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Reading this thread is almost enough to make you think that player injury insurance doesn't exist.

Wonder what his renewal rate for this season!

How about wondering how much of his wages have been paid for by insurance whilst he's been out before saying he's cost us a fortune?

sedwardsdrfc

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« Reply #15 on March 19, 2023, 02:08:20 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Don’t agree with the sentiment because it’s not his fault he’s had bad injuries. But it’s hard to argue he’s not cost us a fortune since then in wages vs the number of games played.

Pointless asking anyone exactly what but you can say this based on him been a good L1 player, probably our best player, and in the knowledge that footballers are generally paid quite well.

So turn it on it’s head. Don’t you think he’s cost us a fortune? And if not based on what?
I don't care or know what Taylor is costing, DD made a statement I'm asking for his justification in making it, based on what?
Taylor is under contract, he is injured sh!t happens

Why weigh in if you don’t care? Pretty sensible to say a injured player costs the club money. Don’t get why you’d need someone to justify that. Unless you know something different in which case just enlighten DD

Agree shit happens it’s not Taylor’s fault at all.

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« Reply #16 on March 19, 2023, 02:08:34 pm by StocksArmy »
I have never understood the hype with Taylor. I like him because he has never not given 100% and he is probably the one it hurts the most to not help the team but, in terms of ability i think hes dogger. Speedboat no driver.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2023, 05:09:03 pm by StocksArmy »

ravenrover

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« Reply #17 on March 19, 2023, 03:12:07 pm by ravenrover »
Don’t agree with the sentiment because it’s not his fault he’s had bad injuries. But it’s hard to argue he’s not cost us a fortune since then in wages vs the number of games played.

Pointless asking anyone exactly what but you can say this based on him been a good L1 player, probably our best player, and in the knowledge that footballers are generally paid quite well.

So turn it on it’s head. Don’t you think he’s cost us a fortune? And if not based on what?
I don't care or know what Taylor is costing, DD made a statement I'm asking for his justification in making it, based on what?
Taylor is under contract, he is injured sh!t happens

Why weigh in if you don’t care? Pretty sensible to say a injured player costs the club money. Don’t get why you’d need someone to justify that. Unless you know something different in which case just enlighten DD

Agree shit happens it’s not Taylor’s fault at all.
He made an ubsustantiated statement I've asked him to tell us what his statement is based on does he know something we don't.

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« Reply #18 on March 19, 2023, 03:16:22 pm by EasyforDennis »
Don’t agree with the sentiment because it’s not his fault he’s had bad injuries. But it’s hard to argue he’s not cost us a fortune since then in wages vs the number of games played.

Pointless asking anyone exactly what but you can say this based on him been a good L1 player, probably our best player, and in the knowledge that footballers are generally paid quite well.

So turn it on it’s head. Don’t you think he’s cost us a fortune? And if not based on what?
I don't care or know what Taylor is costing, DD made a statement I'm asking for his justification in making it, based on what?
Taylor is under contract, he is injured sh!t happens

Why weigh in if you don’t care? Pretty sensible to say a injured player costs the club money. Don’t get why you’d need someone to justify that. Unless you know something different in which case just enlighten DD

Agree shit happens it’s not Taylor’s fault at all.
He made an ubsustantiated statement I've asked him to tell us what his statement is based on does he know something we don't.

Whatever he is on it's too much. That is my unsubstantiated opinion.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #19 on March 19, 2023, 03:17:59 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I haven't gone through the appearance data on Taylor for some time but it was remarkable the last time I did this just how few 90 minutes he had ever completed for us. People say he is an impact player and we can't expect him to complete a full game. Well, he is likely to have always been one of our higher earners and could we really afford scarce resources going on an impact players. And well, his impact has been sporadic shall we say. The injuries are an entirely separate issue that is clearly extremely unfortunate for him.

He was playing for us at a time that we had quite excellent squads, with competition particularly sharp in attacking wide positions.

We had Sadlier and Sims frequently as out and out wide attacking players, Coppinger who obviously could slot in there and we did at times play Halliday, James and even John in that role or as wing backs.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #20 on March 19, 2023, 03:31:12 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'd also add that he played in a position which is very likely one that you sacrifice if you choose to see a game home and stick on another defender. That happened frequently in our superb first half of the 20/21 season.

Of 23 matches, Taylor started 15, came on as sub in 4 and missed 4 through injury.

Of the 15 he started, he played 70 or more minutes in 12, 60 or more minutes in 14 and in one was taken off with injury after 9 minutes. 

That's not an impact player. That's a core first team member in a successful squad with competition for places and a regular need to see out games from winning positions.

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« Reply #21 on March 19, 2023, 03:48:27 pm by Chris Black come back »
His numbers for the 20/21 season were not amazing. He managed 2 assists all season and a slightly more creditable 4 goals all season. His assists ratio was below several players and only very slightly above Madger Gomes. Taylor is a big hearted player who offers something different, and has had awful luck with injuries. For that season cited, he wasn’t a high performer stats wise. Solid, not spectacular though.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2023, 04:20:24 pm by Chris Black come back »

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« Reply #22 on March 19, 2023, 04:18:03 pm by i_ateallthepies »
His pace added massively to the entertainment value we no longer get and he used it plenty of times to support the defence when they were stretched with a breakaway.  Have to say he frustrated the hell out of me with his poor finishing but compared to anyone in the current squad he's light years ahead.

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« Reply #23 on March 20, 2023, 05:00:08 pm by MachoMadness »
Taylor was great at tracking back and supporting his full back. He was great at putting pressure on to help stop, or reduce the danger from crosses. That we lack a player like that now is part of the reason we're so vulnerable from crosses.

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« Reply #24 on March 20, 2023, 05:30:20 pm by Bentley Bullet »
If a fit Taylor would be the best player we have in our squad now it says more about how poor the squad is than how good Taylor is.

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« Reply #25 on March 20, 2023, 05:48:13 pm by Ronnie Dovers »
Taylor was great at tracking back and supporting his full back. He was great at putting pressure on to help stop, or reduce the danger from crosses. That we lack a player like that now is part of the reason we're so vulnerable from crosses.

This exactly, he was brilliant out of possession for us with the constant harrying and pressure on opponents. It's a very overlooked part of his game. He and Sims, during that brilliant period under DM late 2020, must have been a nightmare to play against.

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« Reply #26 on March 20, 2023, 05:54:05 pm by Bentley Bullet »
I'd rather him be brilliant in possession!

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« Reply #27 on March 20, 2023, 06:40:50 pm by i_ateallthepies »
If a fit Taylor would be the best player we have in our squad now it says more about how poor the squad is than how good Taylor is.

Completely agree, BB.

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« Reply #28 on March 21, 2023, 07:01:12 pm by elmsallrover »
Why? Taylor is costing the club an absolute fortune - he’s never fit and not good enough - even in this crap side!
don't blame Taylor blame the club they gave him the contact

 

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