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What is your preference

Same board with different emphasis more investment/ambition
21 (19.3%)
Complete change of ownership
43 (39.4%)
Keep current owners with search for additional investors with a view to transfer of power
37 (33.9%)
Stick with Gavin & Terry replace the Chairman
5 (4.6%)
Something else state below
3 (2.8%)

Total Members Voted: 109

Voting closed: April 02, 2023, 07:58:32 pm

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Branton Rover

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Ownership
« on March 28, 2023, 07:58:32 pm by Branton Rover »
A number of options there, for what it’s worth I would like to retain Gavin and look for younger, more dynamic owners. However having said that realise people who have the financial wherewithal are more mature. Basically a 50 year old JR would be nice but unfortunately there’s only one Mr Ryan.



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sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #1 on March 28, 2023, 09:27:39 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
I went middle one but would also be happy with complete sale and getting rid of Chairman, or at least him stepping down he owns too much of the club to go completely for now.

eastender

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #2 on March 29, 2023, 07:17:53 am by eastender »
I think Option 1 probably wouldn't last long until we were back where we are now.

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #3 on March 29, 2023, 08:24:11 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
It would help if you were to define what new ownership looks like. Is it safe to assume any new ownership is automatically good ownership?

The irony is, if new owners appeared, then we're unlikely to get the choice of most of the above.

Campsall rover

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #4 on March 29, 2023, 08:48:45 am by Campsall rover »
TB is 80 yrs old.

He won’t be around for ever. So we will need to find someone relatively soon.
Will Blunt stick around if TB decides to call it a day. TB could put his shares into a trust fund if there is no buyer for them or when he passes away which in all probability will happen in the next 10 years unless he lives a much longer life than is the average.

EasyforDennis

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« Reply #5 on March 29, 2023, 09:30:44 am by EasyforDennis »
TB is 80 yrs old.

He won’t be around for ever. So we will need to find someone relatively soon.
Will Blunt stick around if TB decides to call it a day. TB could put his shares into a trust fund if there is no buyer for them or when he passes away which in all probability will happen in the next 10 years unless he lives a much longer life than is the average.

If TB decides to go then DB will be off in a flash, he is only here because of TB. Forget about setting up a trust fund. Just look at what happened at Blackburn Rovers. Jack Walker set up a trust fund to look after BRFC and look at how that went. Not well.

Donnybax

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« Reply #6 on March 29, 2023, 09:38:55 am by Donnybax »
It would help if you were to define what new ownership looks like. Is it safe to assume any new ownership is automatically good ownership?

The irony is, if new owners appeared, then we're unlikely to get the choice of most of the above.

equally it is not a given that new ownership will be bad…

auckleyflyer

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #7 on March 29, 2023, 09:43:09 am by auckleyflyer »
Be grateful for what we have!
Believe it's poor decisions not poor investment?
A bit of stability in management and recruitment (no doubt one will come with the other) and we will be in a different position.
Middle/top L1 occasional trips to Champship and hopefully no more trips to L2.
A steady ship is what we need. Not Revolution?

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #8 on March 29, 2023, 02:43:42 pm by Alan Southstand »
It wouldn’t bother me if Blunt resigned today!

If TB still wants to be involved then fine, but he has to get out of this stubborn approach of (seemingly) sustainability or die, then we’re already dead, in relation to any future we have in the EFL. GB, I believe is also doing his best with what he’s being asked to work with.

I keep saying it but change has to happen and it has to come from the very top. Over to you, TB.

silent majority

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« Reply #9 on March 29, 2023, 03:08:15 pm by silent majority »
It wouldn’t bother me if Blunt resigned today!

If TB still wants to be involved then fine, but he has to get out of this stubborn approach of (seemingly) sustainability or die, then we’re already dead, in relation to any future we have in the EFL. GB, I believe is also doing his best with what he’s being asked to work with.

I keep saying it but change has to happen and it has to come from the very top. Over to you, TB.
It wouldn’t bother me if Blunt resigned today!

If TB still wants to be involved then fine, but he has to get out of this stubborn approach of (seemingly) sustainability or die, then we’re already dead, in relation to any future we have in the EFL. GB, I believe is also doing his best with what he’s being asked to work with.

I keep saying it but change has to happen and it has to come from the very top. Over to you, TB.

The Chairman runs the club. It's the Chair who decides on the direction of travel, be that sustainability or otherwise.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #10 on March 29, 2023, 03:38:54 pm by Alan Southstand »
Then, he’s the problem!

knockers

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« Reply #11 on March 29, 2023, 04:00:12 pm by knockers »
The Chairman runs the club. It's the Chair who decides on the direction of travel, be that sustainability or otherwise.

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Wouldn't that be the coach driver  ;)

drfchound

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« Reply #12 on March 29, 2023, 04:42:33 pm by drfchound »
The Chairman runs the club. It's the Chair who decides on the direction of travel, be that sustainability or otherwise.


Wouldn't that be the coach driver  ;)
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Except that on a coach everyone is literally behind the driver.
I don’t think that expression applies to Mr.Blunt.

drfc1951

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #13 on March 29, 2023, 04:45:28 pm by drfc1951 »
Then, he’s the problem!
I think he always has been the problem

Donnyjim

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« Reply #14 on March 29, 2023, 11:23:06 pm by Donnyjim »
If the ownership doesn’t change they club will be dead in 3 years - they are killing it. I’m surprised more can’t see it???

Campsall rover

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« Reply #15 on March 30, 2023, 03:43:50 am by Campsall rover »
It wouldn’t bother me if Blunt resigned today!

If TB still wants to be involved then fine, but he has to get out of this stubborn approach of (seemingly) sustainability or die, then we’re already dead, in relation to any future we have in the EFL. GB, I believe is also doing his best with what he’s being asked to work with.

I keep saying it but change has to happen and it has to come from the very top. Over to you, TB.
David Blunt may be a very good hard nosed business man but as a Chairman of of a football club I think he comes up short in so many areas.
He has shown to be very distant, dogmatic, lacking in people skills, shows no empathy with the supporters and it would seem he is totally inflexible and blinkered to what’s actually happening to the football the supporters are having to endure.
The Club are in the entertainment business. If the customers ( supporters ) don’t receive any entertainment and the match day experience does not live up to expectations and is not value for money, then the customers will vote with their feet.
We will be playing in front of 3.500 to 4.000 next season if the supporters don’t see positive action.
What does that do to the budget? It a continuous downward spiral which will take us to the abyss unless change serious change is made.

Do we have a Chairman who is capable or even remotely interested in taking seriously positive steps to arrest this desperate decline?

I don’t have facts on the inner workings and decision making at the club but it would seem to me that David Blunt is the man presiding at the top of the food chain. He is the chair. The buck stops with the chair. The leadership comes from the top & that is the chair.

TB takes a back seat in the day to day activities of the club. He appointed DB as Chairman to make the major financial and footballing decisions. Copps will have to get football signings signed off by DB and will be restricted by the budget DB has provided for him to work with.

It would seem from the Copps interview with the YP sports paper yesterday that he is very frustrated with the budget he has to work with.
So while I accept times are tough financially for all businesses, it’s the same for all 72 EFL clubs. They all have the same bills to pay.
So why are we lagging behind so many much smaller clubs than DRFC
Where is the genuine ambition and where is the long term plan to be successful on the field of play.

To appoint rookie Head Coaches who have no credentials to do the job of Managing a football League Club and to apparently now have only a mid table League 2 budget, is only going to take the club one way.
The evidence is starring us in the face.

So is Blunt the major problem? Is Copps strategy of having a head Coach without managerial experience flawed or is the problem now both of them. Was Copps restricted in who he could appoint as coach / manager or was it his 100% mission to get DS as his man?

Without
1) A credible Football Manager & Coach ( assistant )
2) Without a budget that gives that Manager the best possible chance of achieving the goal of Promotion

Where are we heading?  So Mr Blunt and Copps sort it out. Deal with what’s starring us all in the face.

Do it NOW before 1997/98 happens again because as clear as day is day and night is night, if this spiral of mediocrity, no far worse than that is allowed to continue for another 12 months, the trap door to the abyss is waiting to gobble up the football club we as supporters cherish.




ravenrover

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Re: Ownership
« Reply #16 on March 30, 2023, 09:27:50 am by ravenrover »
You must have met Blunt  on many occasions to come to those conclusions about him Camps

DearneValleyRover

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« Reply #17 on March 30, 2023, 09:34:59 am by DearneValleyRover »
I went middle one but would also be happy with complete sale and getting rid of Chairman, or at least him stepping down he owns too much of the club to go completely for now.

I think you are confusing the owner with the chairman, TB is the owner DB the chairman

DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #18 on March 30, 2023, 10:07:36 am by DonnyOsmond »
I went middle one but would also be happy with complete sale and getting rid of Chairman, or at least him stepping down he owns too much of the club to go completely for now.

I think you are confusing the owner with the chairman, TB is the owner DB the chairman

Don't the 3 own equal percentage?

Usher down the wing.

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« Reply #19 on March 30, 2023, 10:48:56 am by Usher down the wing. »
We need new owners who will invest in the club & come in wanting it to be able to play at least Championship level with enough funds to get us there.

A new Chairman. As good a business man as David Blunt is he’s not a ‘football man’.

Keep Gavin Baldwin at all costs. He’s the best CEO the club has ever had & worked wonders to make the club self sufficient. He bleeds Doncaster Rovers but is constantly swimming against a strong tide when it comes to getting funding from above in order to help Copps in his job of recruiting the ‘right players’.

If the above comes to fruition I’d keep Copps on board too.

Not sure then what I’d do with Danny. Leave that one to the new owners.

Campsall rover

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« Reply #20 on March 30, 2023, 01:30:21 pm by Campsall rover »
You must have met Blunt  on many occasions to come to those conclusions about him Camps
No. That’s the way he comes across in the MtO meetings.
I have never spoken to him in my life.


EasyforDennis

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« Reply #21 on March 30, 2023, 02:10:08 pm by EasyforDennis »
I went middle one but would also be happy with complete sale and getting rid of Chairman, or at least him stepping down he owns too much of the club to go completely for now.

I think you are confusing the owner with the chairman, TB is the owner DB the chairman

I have never met Boris Johnson but I am certain that  the conclusion I have come to about him is correct.

sedwardsdrfc

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« Reply #22 on March 30, 2023, 03:08:00 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
I went middle one but would also be happy with complete sale and getting rid of Chairman, or at least him stepping down he owns too much of the club to go completely for now.

I think you are confusing the owner with the chairman, TB is the owner DB the chairman

Blunt owns a decent amount of the club. Not sure on the split but him and Baldwin are shareholders with TB.

ravenrover

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« Reply #23 on March 30, 2023, 03:32:22 pm by ravenrover »
1/3 each, but TB is the moneyman

 

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