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pib

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #30 on May 09, 2023, 11:19:04 pm by pib »
I don’t see the timing as an issue at all. Day after the season finished, get it done straight away. There could be 100 reasons they couldn’t do it earlier, but I don’t think it would’ve benefited the club that much anyway even if they had.

Everyone knows most of the out of contract players aren’t good enough regardless. In this day and age, you don’t have to physically be at all the games to know what’s what in any case. Plus McCann (if it is going to be him) is a serious operator. He’ll know the score, I’m sure of that.



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StocksArmy

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #31 on May 09, 2023, 11:27:59 pm by StocksArmy »
To the OP absolutely. Why on earth would you leave it until now to sack him. I agree with the decision but, the time of it is a shamble. I can only speculate that they knew the squad wasn't good enough to make the playoffs in December time to realise we woildnt make the playoffs. Since then they must have hoped DS would get a song out the players he had as his disposal to get some form of performances and he has failed to. Regardless of injuries the players didn't even show any passion. Had they done so, i believe he would have been in a job but, this decision should have come long ago. To tell a man he will have funds and then sack him after the final game i have to feel some slight sympathy for him although again the correct decision.

If we’d sacked schofield 7 games ago, green would’ve took over for the remaining games
We wouldn’t have appointed a permanent, so it would’ve made no difference
I forgot that you know it all ,

The outcome would have been the same. Do you not see thats the point im making?

No, I think you’re suggesting we should’ve sacked Danny 7 games ago so a new manager could assess the squad.
But I’m saying the new manager woukdnt have been appointed until now anyway

I am quite confused as to where you have got 7 games from? I dont mean from the point where TB released his statement. I mean in general he should have been informed that he will have money to spend in the summer but, he must get a rise from the players he has. Whether he was told this or not is unknown. I just believe from the outside looking in that given the circumstances, DS was set up to fail by the club. He should not have taken the job if he was informed of a poor budget or the club should have told him of its intentions. The day after the last game seems really bizzarre.

ChrisBx

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #32 on May 09, 2023, 11:29:01 pm by ChrisBx »
Whoever takes the job will have access to videos of all of our games this season along with 100s of hours of footage from training. There's absolutely no issue on this front.

dickos1

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #33 on May 09, 2023, 11:32:05 pm by dickos1 »
To the OP absolutely. Why on earth would you leave it until now to sack him. I agree with the decision but, the time of it is a shamble. I can only speculate that they knew the squad wasn't good enough to make the playoffs in December time to realise we woildnt make the playoffs. Since then they must have hoped DS would get a song out the players he had as his disposal to get some form of performances and he has failed to. Regardless of injuries the players didn't even show any passion. Had they done so, i believe he would have been in a job but, this decision should have come long ago. To tell a man he will have funds and then sack him after the final game i have to feel some slight sympathy for him although again the correct decision.

If we’d sacked schofield 7 games ago, green would’ve took over for the remaining games
We wouldn’t have appointed a permanent, so it would’ve made no difference
I forgot that you know it all ,

The outcome would have been the same. Do you not see thats the point im making?

No, I think you’re suggesting we should’ve sacked Danny 7 games ago so a new manager could assess the squad.
But I’m saying the new manager woukdnt have been appointed until now anyway

I am quite confused as to where you have got 7 games from? I dont mean from the point where TB released his statement. I mean in general he should have been informed that he will have money to spend in the summer but, he must get a rise from the players he has. Whether he was told this or not is unknown. I just believe from the outside looking in that given the circumstances, DS was set up to fail by the club. He should not have taken the job if he was informed of a poor budget or the club should have told him of its intentions. The day after the last game seems really bizzarre.

Someone in the thread said it should’ve happened 7 games ago.
I was responding to that notion,
It would’ve made no difference, the new manager will have a very good idea on the squad already regardless

StocksArmy

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #34 on May 09, 2023, 11:39:55 pm by StocksArmy »
To the OP absolutely. Why on earth would you leave it until now to sack him. I agree with the decision but, the time of it is a shamble. I can only speculate that they knew the squad wasn't good enough to make the playoffs in December time to realise we woildnt make the playoffs. Since then they must have hoped DS would get a song out the players he had as his disposal to get some form of performances and he has failed to. Regardless of injuries the players didn't even show any passion. Had they done so, i believe he would have been in a job but, this decision should have come long ago. To tell a man he will have funds and then sack him after the final game i have to feel some slight sympathy for him although again the correct decision.

If we’d sacked schofield 7 games ago, green would’ve took over for the remaining games
We wouldn’t have appointed a permanent, so it would’ve made no difference
I forgot that you know it all ,

The outcome would have been the same. Do you not see thats the point im making?

No, I think you’re suggesting we should’ve sacked Danny 7 games ago so a new manager could assess the squad.
But I’m saying the new manager woukdnt have been appointed until now anyway

I am quite confused as to where you have got 7 games from? I dont mean from the point where TB released his statement. I mean in general he should have been informed that he will have money to spend in the summer but, he must get a rise from the players he has. Whether he was told this or not is unknown. I just believe from the outside looking in that given the circumstances, DS was set up to fail by the club. He should not have taken the job if he was informed of a poor budget or the club should have told him of its intentions. The day after the last game seems really bizzarre.

Someone in the thread said it should’ve happened 7 games ago.
I was responding to that notion,
It would’ve made no difference, the new manager will have a very good idea on the squad already regardless

Yes we would like to think so which again makes me think DS has been really hard done by. Also again the guy had to be removed but, the club set him up to fail not backing him in January and he did exactly that.

LincsRover

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #35 on May 10, 2023, 12:17:16 am by LincsRover »
created another as the  new manager hasn’t got a grip of the players or who to keep or let go . Is this just another typical pathetic lack of decision making in keeping that waister in place too long !

How do you know the new manager wasn’t identified a while ago and that person has been watching and assessing?

Let’s hope so!!  :thumbsup:

Drover

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #36 on May 10, 2023, 12:34:59 am by Drover »
For those thinking it odd or a bad time to sack him,maybe,for whatever reason,the new manager did'nt want to start until the season has fully ended,therefore why not let DS have until end of season and if he kept losing the games with poor performances,then it could not be said we did'nt give him enough time to turn it around.Maybe his contract had something to do with it.I don't have any problem with the timing of it at all.Managers have been sacked half way through the summer break,that I do find strange,did'nt we relieve Joe Kinnear of his caretaker duties in the summer break? think that was due to new directors/chairman or owners,possible the firestarter,and they did not give him a chance after they took control.

Upton Rover

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #37 on May 10, 2023, 07:03:03 pm by Upton Rover »
created another as the  new manager hasn’t got a grip of the players or who to keep or let go . Is this just another typical pathetic lack of decision making in keeping that waister in place too long !
Totally agree, it’s great that DS as gone, wish him well, however the timing is shocking should have happened 7 games ago to let the new man in charge see what players he’s inherited

So, given that the new manager (Grant McCaan) will be announced on or before a week on Friday, don’t you think for one minute………….I was almost tempted to leave it there but I’ll continue, that he hasn’t been watching games for some time now?

Why would he then want to ‘inherit’ a squad for the final 7 games of a disastrous season as opposed to coming in fresh with signings he will have had input to come August?
It’s called the retained list, he needs the knowledge of whose shit and whose garbage,

Upton Rover

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Re: By solving one problem , haven’t we just
« Reply #38 on May 10, 2023, 08:16:27 pm by Upton Rover »
created another as the  new manager hasn’t got a grip of the players or who to keep or let go . Is this just another typical pathetic lack of decision making in keeping that waister in place too long !
Totally agree, it’s great that DS as gone, wish him well, however the timing is shocking should have happened 7 games ago to let the new man in charge see what players he’s inherited

What a surprise, thought you was chuffing off to Leeds
I was been sarcastic, saying I will see Leeds in the championship, hoping they would go down,

 

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