Snouts in Trough shock

[BobG]

Legal Aid is just about dead. Of course, there are beneficiaries of that. Let me think.... Oh! Them that are prone to issuing gagging writs and threats....

BobG

[Bentley Bullet]

What happened to legal Aid?

[SydneyRover]

this may be a good place to start

''Legal aid: how has it changed in 70 years?
Everything you need to know about the history of legal aid and where it stands now''

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/dec/26/legal-aid-how-has-it-changed-in-70-years

[drfchound]

What happened to legal Aid?

Well apparently the £1.6b a year spent on it means it has virtually gone.

[wilts rover]

What happened to legal Aid?

Well apparently the £1.6b a year spent on it means it has virtually gone.

Compared with £2.8 billion a year in 2010/11 nearly half of it has gone.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1098628/legal-aid-spending-in-england-and-wales/

As there were 4.2 million cases in 2019/20 that would be over £380 each. How generous you are hound.

[BobG]

There is NO legsl aid for anything to do with children. There is NO legal aid for anything to do with employment rights. But there IS legal aid for multi millionaire ex Prime Ministers enjoying an indexed stipend of £100K a year for life on top of their £200K a year from writing for right-wing press magnates, £100K+ a year for pretending to be an MP and over a million a year from giving tub thumping speeches to assorted people of low intellect.

It's great isn't  it Hound?

BobG

Later: the other point about this, of course,  is, as Wilts has pointed out, that the annual Legal Aid saving is £1.3Bn - sold on the idea that the country can't afford it any more. Over 10 years, that's  £13Bn saving. Not bad. Until you lay it alongside the £70Bn splurged in 1 year on a useless track and trace system and the £20Bn, £30Bn, (who knows...) splurged on corrupt contracts awarded to friends of the Tory party for PPE that never worked.

Anybody, anybody, who defends these last years of Conservative government has lost contact with reality.

BobG

[drfchound]

And a happy new year to you both………

[wilts rover]

And yourself hound. Hope its a good one for you and the family.

[Bentley Bullet]

..... "Low intellect"

BG, I see any New Years' Resolutions you might have don't include you attempting to stop thinking more of yourself than any f**ker else does.

[BobG]

At least I possess insight and an ability to reflect BB. I don't need to rely upon antiquated dogma and foul language in lieu of anything useful from my brain like you are obliged to do.

I note, with interest, that you failed to make even one constructive comment on the substance of my post. I guess that means you entirely agree with it. Well done BB! Seeing the light, no matter how long delayed, is always a breakthrough.

Regards

BobG

[Bentley Bullet]

But then you're lucky in that regard BG because, unlike me, you don't have to put up with an irritant like you.

[drfchound]

There is NO legsl aid for anything to do with children. There is NO legal aid for anything to do with employment rights. But there IS legal aid for multi millionaire ex Prime Ministers enjoying an indexed stipend of £100K a year for life on top of their £200K a year from writing for right-wing press magnates, £100K+ a year for pretending to be an MP and over a million a year from giving tub thumping speeches to assorted people of low intellect.

It's great isn't  it Hound?

BobG

Later: the other point about this, of course,  is, as Wilts has pointed out, that the annual Legal Aid saving is £1.3Bn - sold on the idea that the country can't afford it any more. Over 10 years, that's  £13Bn saving. Not bad. Until you lay it alongside the £70Bn splurged in 1 year on a useless track and trace system and the £20Bn, £30Bn, (who knows...) splurged on corrupt contracts awarded to friends of the Tory party for PPE that never worked.

Anybody, anybody, who defends these last years of Conservative government has lost contact with reality.

BobG

With regards to your edit, who on here has defended the stuff you have listed.

[BobG]

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/01/wreckage-of-brexit-politicians-denial

BobG

[danumdon]

Nice insight and reflection there Bob.

Now if you could give us some more of your insight and answer Hounds question so we can all reflect on it

[albie]

Tory donors paid to destroy the useless PPE;
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-firm-paid-11m-28956268

Beginning to look like a failed state, are we not?

[ravenrover]

PM’s multi millionaire wife had shares in firm that got nearly £300,000 in loans from scheme funded by the taxpayer her husband set up when he was Chancellor and then it went bust and doesn't have to pay a penny back

[albie]

Sunak pimping out NHS data to the private sector;
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunaks-lobbyist-election-guru-29250121

On it goes, the torture never stops!

[danumdon]

Sunak pimping out NHS data to the private sector;
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunaks-lobbyist-election-guru-29250121

On it goes, the torture never stops!

Unfortunately for us all this is ongoing, this government will be removed at the next election, and in effect get away with their crimes, Scott free, are we to assume an incoming administration will not continue with their version of torture? i doubt anyone on here is that naive !

[albie]

Latest update on snoutgate:
https://actions.goodlawproject.org/ppe_win_update_120122

Oh dear, poor Mr Hancock!

[Colemans Left Hook]

We live in a society where corruption is the norm, you are surprised when someone is honest nowadays.

which gives me a perfect excuse yet again to post my "perceived corruption Index"

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

[Donnywolf]

There is NO legsl aid for anything to do with children. There is NO legal aid for anything to do with employment rights. But there IS legal aid for multi millionaire ex Prime Ministers enjoying an indexed stipend of £100K a year for life on top of their £200K a year from writing for right-wing press magnates, £100K+ a year for pretending to be an MP and over a million a year from giving tub thumping speeches to assorted people of low intellect.

It's great isn't  it Hound?

BobG

Later: the other point about this, of course,  is, as Wilts has pointed out, that the annual Legal Aid saving is £1.3Bn - sold on the idea that the country can't afford it any more. Over 10 years, that's  £13Bn saving. Not bad. Until you lay it alongside the £70Bn splurged in 1 year on a useless track and trace system and the £20Bn, £30Bn, (who knows...) splurged on corrupt contracts awarded to friends of the Tory party for PPE that never worked.

Anybody, anybody, who defends these last years of Conservative government has lost contact with reality.

BobG

True ... And one of the things I keep seeing is they got 35 million for this or 80 millions for that

Test and Trace got 37 billion and people were outraged but maybe like me they didnt  really appreciate the huge difference till it is expressed as "time"

Like this

https://images.app.goo.gl/THWwuqTXjq9PuABi7

[Donnywolf]

In case it doesn't open

1 million seconds is about 11 days

1 billion seconds is about 31.5 Years


1 million minutes would takes us back 329 days 10 hours and 40 minutes


Whereas


1 billion minutes would take us back 1,902 years to around 120 ad


That's why people should be outraged at 37 billion squandered on T&T , and wonder who got all that money or where is it now

[ravenrover]

Was anyone aware that the police had raided Mones home?
Not seen that on any TV news or have I not watched the right channels?

[Donnywolf]

No , I hadn't Rr . Suppressed by MSM ?

[ravenrover]

I now see that Rich-ie is now being investigated by the Parliamentary Standards watchdog for not declaring an interest in his wifes childcare agency when they were handed out Government subsidies
Strangely not seen much on that either
This now makes 6 Tory MPs under investgation
Christopher Pincher
Steve Brine
Matt Hancock
Henry Smith
Scott Benton
Rishi Sunak

[ravenrover]

Surely this can't be true, a Minister who regularly claims heating bills to live at her In Laws occasionally wouldn't try this?


Of course she would!

[albie]

Back to the PPE festival of fraud.
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/02/13/design-company-awarded-25m-ppe-contract-applies-to-be-struck-off-without-submitting-any-accounts/

New company, no employees, £25m govt VIP contract, 99% of the cash is missing, no accounts.......so where are the Serious Fraud Office?

[BillyStubbsTears]

This gives more detail.

https://goodlawproject.org/revealed-greg-hands-referred-close-political-contact-for-25m-vip-contract/

In summary:

- Mark Higton was a friend of the Minister, Greg Hands

- The company Lux Lifestyle (that had no staff and wasn't trading) applied for VIP lane treatment for COVID PPE contracts.

- Higton, who had no official connection to Luxe Lifestyle, emailed Hands asking for support. Internal documents from the mistry repeatedly refer to the supplier as "Minister Hands/Luxe Lifestyle" https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ANzAyqVG3mLIqkwY6ggwhjkaMKfIzq66/view

- When the list of successful contractors was originally put on the Govt website, it referred to "Minster(sic) Hands" before being changed to "Luxe Lifestyle"

- After the contract was awarded, Higton set up three companies called "Luxe Life Care 1, 2 an 3". None of them has ever filed accounts. One has been dissolved and the other two have applied to be struck off.

- None of the PPE equipment Luxe Lifestyle was contracted to provide was ever used by the NHS.

There's so much of this that it is in danger of just being normalised.