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scawsby steve

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DFP
« on August 14, 2023, 06:08:52 pm by scawsby steve »
Bloody hell. Their team suggestion for tomorrow is a bit drastic. 7 players dropped and replaced.

Out goes Olowu, Maxwell, Biggins, Broadbent, Miller, Sotona, and Roberts.

In comes Nixon, Anderson, Senior, Rowe, Westbrooke, Taylor, and Ironside.

I honestly don't fancy a forward line of Taylor, Ironside, and Molyneux. The only certs from those mentioned, for me, would be Nixon and Senior.

I'd agree with Anderson coming back in, but I'm not sure who I'd like to see partner him, between Wood, Olowu, and Faulkner. I think Joe might benefit from a break at the moment. He looks shell shocked.



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Re: DFP
« Reply #1 on August 14, 2023, 06:15:42 pm by Filo »
Bloody hell. Their team suggestion for tomorrow is a bit drastic. 7 players dropped and replaced.

Out goes Olowu, Maxwell, Biggins, Broadbent, Miller, Sotona, and Roberts.

In comes Nixon, Anderson, Senior, Rowe, Westbrooke, Taylor, and Ironside.

I honestly don't fancy a forward line of Taylor, Ironside, and Molyneux. The only certs from those mentioned, for me, would be Nixon and Senior.

I'd agree with Anderson coming back in, but I'm not sure who I'd like to see partner him, between Wood, Olowu, and Faulkner. I think Joe might benefit from a break at the moment. He looks shell shocked.

I don’t fancy a CB pairing of Anderson and Wood, both too slow to catch a cold

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Re: DFP
« Reply #2 on August 14, 2023, 06:37:28 pm by pib »
I'd go with Anderson and Olowu based on what I've seen so far.

Nixon RB, Bailey in midfield. Toss-up between Biggins and Rowe in the middle unless one of Close/Westbrooke are back in which case they'd have to be considered for me. I'd probably go for Rowe in all honesty but that didn't really work v Harrogate which has made me think twice.

Sotona, Ironside and Roberts if we're going for a front 3. I like Miller but I think we could be a bit one-dimensional if all the front 3 are "runners". We need someone who can hold the ball up and I'm sure Ironside will bring that in time.

Dabbermoo

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Re: DFP
« Reply #3 on August 14, 2023, 06:40:38 pm by Dabbermoo »
Anderson in for Wood for me, faulkner should be sent out on loan, he won't get the minutes this season I don't believe. Taylor in for deji also, again only my opinion. Wood needs to reflect on his performances which haven't been good at all already this season and as tomorrow is such a massive game I feel he will try too hard and the regular slip ups he has at the minute could only get worse.
I'll happily eat my hat if Wood does start tomorrow evening and puts in a great shift and leads the lads to victory. As ever always behind the team come what may but fingers crossed our season starts tomorrow evening with a great derby win ro kick-start a great league run upto the massive Everton game.
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Re: DFP
« Reply #4 on August 14, 2023, 07:35:05 pm by The Beast »
Bloody hell. Their team suggestion for tomorrow is a bit drastic. 7 players dropped and replaced.

Out goes Olowu, Maxwell, Biggins, Broadbent, Miller, Sotona, and Roberts.

In comes Nixon, Anderson, Senior, Rowe, Westbrooke, Taylor, and Ironside.

I honestly don't fancy a forward line of Taylor, Ironside, and Molyneux. The only certs from those mentioned, for me, would be Nixon and Senior.

I'd agree with Anderson coming back in, but I'm not sure who I'd like to see partner him, between Wood, Olowu, and Faulkner. I think Joe might benefit from a break at the moment. He looks shell shocked.

I don’t fancy a CB pairing of Anderson and Wood, both too slow to catch a cold
Mansfield were really useful last season up top as well, some talented players. I suppose we’ve got a big squad now comparatively compared to past seasons and it sends out a message, that if you don’t perform you’re out.

Petche

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Re: DFP
« Reply #5 on August 14, 2023, 07:53:26 pm by Petche »
I've only seen the Harrogate game but after all the hype I must admit was disappointed with Wood.

RoversInSpain

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« Reply #6 on August 14, 2023, 08:01:28 pm by RoversInSpain »
Can’t see how Olowu can retain his place. Under any pressure he’s made terrible decisions in both league games. Faulkner and Anderson for me let’s give them an opportunity against a strong side. We have to try combinations. Grant must be going around in circles one bad performance one good one horrible, it’s getting to the root of who fits with who. His biggest issue is he’s got a couple of midfielders who don’t seem to have the stomach for lower league.

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« Reply #7 on August 14, 2023, 08:13:14 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
But this is where good man management comes in. Knowing a player well enough to knowcwhen to pull him or show faith and give them a chance to atone. Sometimes the adverse effects of constantly making changes increases the fear factor of making mistakes. Of course, there's always scope to shoe there are consequences if players don't deliver the standards required. The art is knowing what works for each individual player and the knock on effects on the team.

We remember seasons ago when Fergie would pick Rowe no matter what and that was noticed by other players too.

Padge_DRFC

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Re: DFP
« Reply #8 on August 14, 2023, 08:15:16 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Anderson for me. Not sold on Wood. Seems very slow. Seems an obsession about 'leaders'

Bailey has to play as the rest aren't very good without the ball. Broadbent needs to get with it quickly just jogs around not really doing much.

I'd start the new striker and stick with Roberts and Satona. Push their back line back 10 yards for starters.

Is Taylor injured or has McCann seen the light already?

ForsolongaRover

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Re: DFP
« Reply #9 on August 14, 2023, 08:48:06 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Choosing a team in these circumstances is the proverbial nightmare.

You would hope that GM knows his players well enough now to choose those who will stay composed and organised. It is important to make the result the priority.

There has to be a capability to contain dangerous opponents and tomorrow will be a good test.

Goole Rover

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« Reply #10 on August 14, 2023, 09:27:54 pm by Goole Rover »
Can’t see how Olowu can retain his place. Under any pressure he’s made terrible decisions in both league games. Faulkner and Anderson for me let’s give them an opportunity against a strong side. We have to try combinations. Grant must be going around in circles one bad performance one good one horrible, it’s getting to the root of who fits with who. His biggest issue is he’s got a couple of midfielders who don’t seem to have the stomach for lower league.
He didn’t do too well at Hull either, Anderson for me.

RoversInSpain

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« Reply #11 on August 14, 2023, 09:29:49 pm by RoversInSpain »
But this is where good man management comes in. Knowing a player well enough to knowcwhen to pull him or show faith and give them a chance to atone. Sometimes the adverse effects of constantly making changes increases the fear factor of making mistakes. Of course, there's always scope to shoe there are consequences if players don't deliver the standards required. The art is knowing what works for each individual player and the knock on effects on the team.

We remember seasons ago when Fergie would pick Rowe no matter what and that was noticed by other players too.
That’s a really sound point DBR. Show trust keep faith would mean a lot to the player. Or do you throw the gauntlet to a youngster chomping at the bit for a chance and trust in him.
Who’d be a footy manager with 20+ players to get to know and learn about very quickly? (Not me that’s for sure) … it’s going to take time until GM knows all the buttons to press and can get the combinations right.

GazLaz

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Re: DFP
« Reply #12 on August 14, 2023, 09:47:46 pm by GazLaz »
Can’t see a 40 year old Wood starting every game but I think the fact GM took him off after 67mins on Saturday was to save him for Mansfield.

Pliskin

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« Reply #13 on August 14, 2023, 09:53:47 pm by Pliskin »
I hope it's Wood and Anderson at CB, Bailey in defensive midfield, Ironside up front, and Deji on the bench.

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« Reply #14 on August 14, 2023, 10:19:06 pm by KingKendrick »
I hope it's Wood and Anderson at CB, Bailey in defensive midfield, Ironside up front, and Deji on the bench.

God help us if it’s a wood Anderson partnership. Zero legs between them. Yes Olowu has got a mistake in him but his covering runs and composure on the ball is better than anything we’ve got. He is still young remember. Would be surprised if Roberts starts. He looked like he cramped up late on at Newport I suspect it maybe be deji And moly out wide with Rowe in behind Ironside/miller/faal

Pliskin

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« Reply #15 on August 14, 2023, 11:10:48 pm by Pliskin »
It's just my view, but I think the need for pace in central defence is a bit overplayed, particularly in the lower leagues. It certainly hasn't been of much value for us thus far.

Butler and Anderson partnered together in League 1 under McCann on many occasions and their lack of pace was rarely an issue. I'd be tempted to give something similar a try against Mansfield.

I'm also a bit sceptical of Deji as a starter - he seems way too raw at this stage to be much more than an impact sub IMO. Yes he looks a handful when he gets his head down and skins people, but the final pass / cross / shot just hasn't been there at all. I think he'd be most effective as our secret weapon to unleash against tiring full backs in the second half and stretch the game.
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murham

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Re: DFP
« Reply #16 on August 15, 2023, 12:55:07 am by murham »
Too many changes too many times is a recipe for disaster
Wood    olowu
Ironside up front
Come on , be sensible

keith79

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Re: DFP
« Reply #17 on August 15, 2023, 05:14:08 am by keith79 »
FAAL  looks a very good signing imo.

Padge_DRFC

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« Reply #18 on August 15, 2023, 05:29:39 am by Padge_DRFC »
Anderson and Oluwu

No coincidence Oluwu had his best game with Anderson in it too. Wood just looks way off the pace and happy to sit back.

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« Reply #19 on August 15, 2023, 09:26:07 am by ravenrover »
It's just my view, but I think the need for pace in central defence is a bit overplayed, particularly in the lower leagues. It certainly hasn't been of much value for us thus far.

Butler and Anderson partnered together in League 1 under McCann on many occasions and their lack of pace was rarely an issue. I'd be tempted to give something similar a try against Mansfield.

I'm also a bit sceptical of Deji as a starter - he seems way too raw at this stage to be much more than an impact sub IMO. Yes he looks a handful when he gets his head down and skins people, but the final pass / cross / shot just hasn't been there at all. I think he'd be most effective as our secret weapon to unleash against tiring full backs in the second half and stretch the game.
Was it Deji who made the run then laid it back to Rowe on the edge of the box to get the shot away?

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« Reply #20 on August 15, 2023, 09:47:56 am by selby »
  Including his run of games at the end of last season and the preseason games and also games played behind closed doors Faulkner has been our most consistent performer as a defender if not the whole team.
  The only thing holding him back is that three managers under pressure have not had the balls to trust youth, and has played only when we have been short through injury, his age and game experience has been held against him in the position he plays Central Defence.
  We may have players in central defence now with good past reputations, but have been found wanting in some games, partly because the teams we play set up to overwhelm our lack of cover in midfield and we haven't the legs of the oppositions forwards especially if Wood and Anderson are paired together not particularly if the ball is played over the top or a through ball as their positional sense is good, but I fear players running directly at them with the ball.

Sammy Chung was King

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« Reply #21 on August 15, 2023, 01:14:15 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
Making drastic changes won’t help, as bad as we were against Newport. Understanding needs to be built. A few changes here and there, just to let people know that, that performance wasn’t good enough, would be sufficient .

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« Reply #22 on August 15, 2023, 01:23:17 pm by steve@dcfd »
Looking at Mansfield highlights they have two up front and a Keillor Dunne just behind he’s score 3 goals already. Bailey will have to be at his best to mark him and don’t let him get behind him.
The two fullbacks will not have wingers as such to mark but both Mansfield fullbacks play high game.
If it’s Westbrooke and Rowe with Bailey two slow players and Bailey. They’ll have to work their socks off to compete with Quinn and Lewis. But that will leave Reed with no body getting at him. If it’s Molyneux and Taylor then they’ll have be closer to Ironside at least one of them. Let’s see but all these changes won’t help. We will see how we play but both our wide attackers need to be playing inside to allow fullbacks to overlap.
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