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normal rules

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Nuclear rhetoric
« on October 09, 2023, 04:27:21 pm by normal rules »
There seems to be an increasing number of media outlets spouting about what to do in the event if a nuclear war. And how to survive one.
Ffs, have they no idea what this entails .
Really?
Personally I’d want any such attack to land right on my house. I’d want taking out immediately. 
The thought of “surviving “ a nuclear war does not bear thinking about .
Unspeakable misery and pain. And probably very very long drawn out deaths .on a biblical scale.



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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #1 on October 09, 2023, 05:23:59 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
There seems to be an increasing number of media outlets spouting about what to do in the event if a nuclear war. And how to survive one.
Ffs, have they no idea what this entails .
Really?
Personally I’d want any such attack to land right on my house. I’d want taking out immediately. 
The thought of “surviving “ a nuclear war does not bear thinking about .
Unspeakable misery and pain. And probably very very long drawn out deaths .on a biblical scale.


There's not going to be a nuclear war.


If there is, please accept my posthumous apologies.

Nudga

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #2 on October 09, 2023, 05:25:40 pm by Nudga »
Scaremongering, no one will use them.

scawsby steve

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #3 on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pm by scawsby steve »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

normal rules

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #4 on October 09, 2023, 06:32:46 pm by normal rules »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Sprotyrover

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #5 on October 09, 2023, 06:46:29 pm by Sprotyrover »
I think you will see Iranian Nuclear facilities getting bombed in the near future!

i_ateallthepies

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #6 on October 09, 2023, 07:21:26 pm by i_ateallthepies »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't start with a simple standoff between Putin and the West but there are plenty of other more likely initiators that could start an escalation that nobody wants, e.g. Sproty's comment above.

wilts rover

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #7 on October 09, 2023, 07:58:04 pm by wilts rover »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

normal rules

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #8 on October 09, 2023, 08:04:44 pm by normal rules »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

wilts rover

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #9 on October 09, 2023, 08:18:03 pm by wilts rover »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #10 on October 09, 2023, 08:59:47 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/

As an absolute minimum it would mean the destruction of the Black Sea fleet and a crippling cyber attack to hobble the Russian army.

The most dangerous response for the future of the world would be for a major power to use a nuke and not face enormous consequences. If that happens, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Germany, Poland, Turkey, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, UAE and a string of others all choose to develop their own nukes for protection.

normal rules

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #11 on October 09, 2023, 10:37:47 pm by normal rules »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/

That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #12 on October 10, 2023, 12:17:37 am by Bristol Red Rover »

That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.
Russia and the US have both chosen not to prolong the old treaty. Both see their weapons as needing refreshing, both have chosen to do this.

Herbert Anchovy

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #13 on October 10, 2023, 03:39:32 pm by Herbert Anchovy »
How's this one then for strangeness....A few years ago there was a programme on the radio about Russia's armed forces (pre Ukraine). Apparently, much of its Nuclear arsenal dates back to the cold war. They've not updated it anywhere near the level of NATO. In fact, many of its Nuclear weapons are so dangerous that they have to be dismantled, which Russia doesn't have the internal capability to do safely. So, where are they going to for dismantling? The USA!!


Sprotyrover

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #14 on October 10, 2023, 10:35:01 pm by Sprotyrover »
How's this one then for strangeness....A few years ago there was a programme on the radio about Russia's armed forces (pre Ukraine). Apparently, much of its Nuclear arsenal dates back to the cold war. They've not updated it anywhere near the level of NATO. In fact, many of its Nuclear weapons are so dangerous that they have to be dismantled, which Russia doesn't have the internal capability to do safely. So, where are they going to for dismantling? The USA!!


Let’s hope they can account for the whereabouts of all of their Warheads!

wilts rover

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #15 on October 11, 2023, 09:02:19 am by wilts rover »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/

That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.

Yes. It didn't happen a year ago - and it's not going to happen now.

Putin didn't want to find out what those 'catastrophic consequences' were then. Nothing whatsoever has changed to make him do so now.

danumdon

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #16 on October 11, 2023, 05:20:08 pm by danumdon »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/

That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.

Yes. It didn't happen a year ago - and it's not going to happen now.

Putin didn't want to find out what those 'catastrophic consequences' were then. Nothing whatsoever has changed to make him do so now.

Very lazy quote to say that nothing has changed for Putin in the last year.

This time last year Putin was thinking this would all done and dusted for teatime.

The longer he has mission creep the more desperate this animal will become.

We all know what a desperate animal will do when its cornered and run out of logical conclusions.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #17 on October 11, 2023, 05:38:42 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/

That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.

Yes. It didn't happen a year ago - and it's not going to happen now.

Putin didn't want to find out what those 'catastrophic consequences' were then. Nothing whatsoever has changed to make him do so now.

Very lazy quote to say that nothing has changed for Putin in the last year.

This time last year Putin was thinking this would all done and dusted for teatime.

The longer he has mission creep the more desperate this animal will become.

We all know what a desperate animal will do when its cornered and run out of logical conclusions.

When I was a kid we had a little cat. Used to strut around the house like it was in charge. When it was out at night and got cornered in the garden by a bigger cat, it used to howl, roll on its back and shit itself, literally.


scawsby steve

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Re: Nuclear rhetoric
« Reply #18 on October 11, 2023, 05:55:37 pm by scawsby steve »
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.

He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.

He won't be prepared to commit suicide.

I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now.
Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv.
Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.
What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries

Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.

A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.

If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.

Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/

That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.

Yes. It didn't happen a year ago - and it's not going to happen now.

Putin didn't want to find out what those 'catastrophic consequences' were then. Nothing whatsoever has changed to make him do so now.

Very lazy quote to say that nothing has changed for Putin in the last year.

This time last year Putin was thinking this would all done and dusted for teatime.

The longer he has mission creep the more desperate this animal will become.

We all know what a desperate animal will do when its cornered and run out of logical conclusions.

There's one thing you're forgetting, DD. He's all wind and p*ss.

He's terrified of NATO. That's why he keeps making the empty nuclear threats.

 

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