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There seems to be an increasing number of media outlets spouting about what to do in the event if a nuclear war. And how to survive one. Ffs, have they no idea what this entails .Really?Personally I’d want any such attack to land right on my house. I’d want taking out immediately. The thought of “surviving “ a nuclear war does not bear thinking about . Unspeakable misery and pain. And probably very very long drawn out deaths .on a biblical scale.
Putin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.
Quote from: scawsby steve on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pmPutin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now. Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv. Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries
Quote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 06:32:46 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pmPutin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now. Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv. Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.
Quote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 07:58:04 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 06:32:46 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pmPutin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now. Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv. Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered.
Quote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 08:04:44 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 07:58:04 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 06:32:46 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pmPutin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now. Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv. Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered. Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/
That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.
How's this one then for strangeness....A few years ago there was a programme on the radio about Russia's armed forces (pre Ukraine). Apparently, much of its Nuclear arsenal dates back to the cold war. They've not updated it anywhere near the level of NATO. In fact, many of its Nuclear weapons are so dangerous that they have to be dismantled, which Russia doesn't have the internal capability to do safely. So, where are they going to for dismantling? The USA!! Let’s hope they can account for the whereabouts of all of their Warheads!
Quote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 08:18:03 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 08:04:44 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 07:58:04 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 06:32:46 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pmPutin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now. Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv. Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered. Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing.
Quote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 10:37:47 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 08:18:03 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 08:04:44 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 07:58:04 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 06:32:46 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pmPutin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now. Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv. Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered. Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing. Yes. It didn't happen a year ago - and it's not going to happen now.Putin didn't want to find out what those 'catastrophic consequences' were then. Nothing whatsoever has changed to make him do so now.
Quote from: wilts rover on October 11, 2023, 09:02:19 amQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 10:37:47 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 08:18:03 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 08:04:44 pmQuote from: wilts rover on October 09, 2023, 07:58:04 pmQuote from: normal rules on October 09, 2023, 06:32:46 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on October 09, 2023, 06:14:20 pmPutin, for one, loves his life far too much to start up anything like that.He's apparently one of the richest men in the world, and has palaces and luxury yachts all over the place, not to mention lady friends.He won't be prepared to commit suicide.I had convinced myself that we would never fall into the abyss of global nuclear war. But I’m not so sure now. Consider this, Poo tin decides to cut the head off the chicken and drops a single tactical nuclear warhead on Kyiv. Which I believe is becoming increasingly plausible.What on earth would be the Wests response to this, bearing in mind any fallout cloud would affect NATO countries Putin has always seen himself as wanting to leaving a great legacy behind, creating an Empire to rival Peter the Great. I can't believe even he thinks bringing about nuclear winter will achieve that.A fall out cloud in Europe will in no way affect the US. And they own all the weapons, if that helps.If a subsequent cloud was interpreted as an attack on a NATO country then Article 5 would be considered. Irrelevant. The US have already said Russia exploding a nuclear weapon in Ukraine would lead to 'catastrophic consequences'. Make your own opinion on what that means - because Putin has to:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-warns-putin-catastrophic-consequences-if-nuclear-weapons-used-ukraine-2022-09-25/That was over a year ago. Three days ago Poo tin is talking about fresh nuclear testing. Yes. It didn't happen a year ago - and it's not going to happen now.Putin didn't want to find out what those 'catastrophic consequences' were then. Nothing whatsoever has changed to make him do so now.Very lazy quote to say that nothing has changed for Putin in the last year.This time last year Putin was thinking this would all done and dusted for teatime.The longer he has mission creep the more desperate this animal will become.We all know what a desperate animal will do when its cornered and run out of logical conclusions.