Tory leadership race

[Axholme Lion]

If they don't know which part of the spectrum they should be in, Sidders, then they shouldn't be anywhere near power.  Some t**t making his choices that way is what gave us Brexit.

What's wrong with Brexit? It enabled me to get a much better job in a different industry. Can't fault it.

[SydneyRover]

If they don't know which part of the spectrum they should be in, Sidders, then they shouldn't be anywhere near power.  Some t**t making his choices that way is what gave us Brexit.

What's wrong with Brexit? It enabled me to get a much better job in a different industry. Can't fault it.

Nail on head there Axholme, the right has always looked after itself

[i_ateallthepies]

If they don't know which part of the spectrum they should be in, Sidders, then they shouldn't be anywhere near power.  Some t**t making his choices that way is what gave us Brexit.

What's wrong with Brexit? It enabled me to get a much better job in a different industry. Can't fault it.

Why was you not able to get the job without brexit?

[BillyStubbsTears]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4y7ewedg1o

Braverman says Tories lost cos they weren't right wing enough.

Hmm.

2015 Election
Tories: 37%
Parties to right of Tories: 13%
Parties to left of Tories: 47%
Result: Tory Majority

2024 Election
Tories: 24%
Parties to right: 14%
Parties to left: 56%*
Result: Tory annihilation.

(Rough figures, excluding NI parties.
Parties to right, UKIP, RefUK
Parties to left: Lab, LD, Green, SNP,  PC.
2024 figure for left is more like 58% if you include Galloway's rabble and the Muslim independents.)

Simple logic really. But, if they want to make themselves unelectable for a generation, good luck wi that.

Those of you on the Right who want PR, be careful what you wish for. 2015 is the one and only time since 1935 that 50% of the votes went to parties to the right of the LDs. The UK is basically a centre-left country. Has been for nearly a century.

[ncRover]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4y7ewedg1o

Braverman says Tories lost cos they weren't right wing enough.

Hmm.

2015 Election
Tories: 37%
Parties to right of Tories: 13%
Parties to left of Tories: 47%
Result: Tory Majority

2024 Election
Tories: 24%
Parties to right: 14%
Parties to left: 56%*
Result: Tory annihilation.

(Rough figures, excluding NI parties.
Parties to right, UKIP, RefUK
Parties to left: Lab, LD, Green, SNP,  PC.
2024 figure for left is more like 58% if you include Galloway's rabble and the Muslim independents.)

Simple logic really. But, if they want to make themselves unelectable for a generation, good luck wi that.

Those of you on the Right who want PR, be careful what you wish for. 2015 is the one and only time since 1935 that 50% of the votes went to parties to the right of the LDs. The UK is basically a centre-left country. Has been for nearly a century.

This person has worked out the vote had Reform not stood.

She used the poll on people’s preferences that I posted a few days ago.

https://x.com/liveraldemocrat/status/1810883861275914737?s=46

The Labour majority goes down to 120.

The Tories just need to realise why they lost. A lack of capability and positive vision. I saw Gavin Williamson the other day complaining about Labour:

“concreting the green belt”
“Force government housing targets on communities”
“Ignore local voices in the planning process”

Clueless

[SydneyRover]

Whomever is elected leader will need to accept the dire position many if not most of services are in as it has touched almost everyone. I'm not sure that it will wash with the electorate to try and suggest the government is overegging it.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

The economic numbers this morning show just why Sunak was daft to call the election when he did.

[SydneyRover]

He maybe wasn't confident it was enough (one swallow etc), or he may have been more concerned with reform spoiling the party. He didn't seem to have a grip on things that concerned voters, services, services, services.

[Axholme Lion]

If they don't know which part of the spectrum they should be in, Sidders, then they shouldn't be anywhere near power.  Some t**t making his choices that way is what gave us Brexit.

What's wrong with Brexit? It enabled me to get a much better job in a different industry. Can't fault it.

Why was you not able to get the job without brexit?

Because a lot of the Poles went back home where I work.

[DonnyOsmond]

Initially, Jeremy Hunt.

Eventually, Boris Johnson.

Hopefully not, we've moved on from our clown era, let's be a serious country again.

[normal rules]

Interesting to see what happens in rishis seat if he goes.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Interesting to see what happens in rishis seat if he goes.

will that person have blond hair  - he could buy the 2 million house as well

He's probably never heard of Richmond in Richmondshire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmondshire

Hopefully he'll think it's Richmond on Thames.  Thinking about it it has Penny Mordant written all over it.

[danumdon]

I very much doubt any Yorkshire person would actually vote for Johnson, even dyed in the wood Tories would baulk at the thought.

This cretins time has been and gone, people who fell for his five card tricks wont do so again.

[ravenrover]

I wouldn't put money against it

[danumdon]

Id say even the most deluded Tory would baulk at actually voting to bring back this pantomime show.

Serious and positive actions are needed from a party leader, if they happen to be running for a party that's just been reduced to a scabby rump then the last thing that's needed is pretend buffoonery and lies. By all means have a personality that resonates with the public but they need to remember that the role requires a serious and organised mindset.

Someone like Johnson could never fit this role, style over substance gets you annihilated at the ballot box. Even the most stubborn must realise this now.

[BillyStubbsTears]

If it wasn't actually important to have a functioning centre right party, it'd be a reight laugh watching this clown fight.

Braverman has gone all Seig Heil.

Badenoch has leaked Shadow Cabinet papers then said what a disgrace it is to leak.

Jenrick's supporters are saying he's the real deal cos he had murals of Mickey Mouse painted over at an immigrant kids detention centre, so that shows he's enough of a nasty Kitson to take on Farage.

Badenoch is saying they should fight in private and be united in public.

Braverman has responded by accusing Badenoch of saying that Braverman is having a public nervous breakdown.

Tugendhat's mates are saying his team never slags off rivals. Not like the others!

It's like a pitch to the Thick of It producers that gets chucked out cos it's too f**king daft to laugh at.

[Colemans Left Hook]

If it wasn't actually important to have a functioning centre right party, it'd be a reight laugh watching this clown fight.

Braverman has gone all Seig Heil.

Badenoch has leaked Shadow Cabinet papers then said what a disgrace it is to leak.

Jenrick's supporters are saying he's the real deal cos he had murals of Mickey Mouse painted over at an immigrant kids detention centre, so that shows he's enough of a nasty Kitson to take on Farage.  Replacing Mickey Mouse with your AVATAR  would do the trick NICELY ... SHAME YOU HAVE THE COPYRIGHT ON IT       THEY SAY AN AVATAR NEVER LIES -just look in the mirror.
Badenoch is saying they should fight in private and be united in public.

Braverman has responded by accusing Badenoch of saying that Braverman is having a public nervous breakdown.

Tugendhat's mates are saying his team never slags off rivals. Not like the others!  and he's NOT ALLOWED INTO CHINA

It's like a pitch to the Thick of It producers that gets chucked out cos it's too f**king daft to laugh at.