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Copps is Magic

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Sbarra - Clifton
« on January 25, 2025, 05:26:22 pm by Copps is Magic »
If played - which player would help to score or create more chances over the course of a season?

Genuine question.



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Filo

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #1 on January 25, 2025, 05:35:35 pm by Filo »
Clifton for me

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #2 on January 25, 2025, 05:40:52 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Clifton for me

And me! You need no-nonsense direct types in L2.

Chris Black come back

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #3 on January 25, 2025, 05:45:34 pm by Chris Black come back »
Sbarra is a high quality player but I don’t think we’re necessarily playing the system to bring the best out of him.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #4 on January 25, 2025, 05:46:28 pm by Cramby10 »
Slim pickings there. I’d sooner change formation. 2 very ordinary signings.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #5 on January 25, 2025, 05:49:05 pm by andyst79 »
Slim pickings there. I’d sooner change formation. 2 very ordinary signings.
Both are grafters and work hard out of possession but are bang average at best for me.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #6 on January 25, 2025, 05:54:07 pm by Reg of the Rovers »
Sbarra is awful. No redeeming features, he's small and soft, slows play down, gave the ball away plenty. Grant starting him today against a strong organised side was absolute stupidity.

Clifton is a blunt tool, but he'll turn play over, make tackles and dominate in the middle, and he'll work hard and chip in with a goal. No brainer for me.

Copps is Magic

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #7 on January 25, 2025, 06:00:15 pm by Copps is Magic »
They aren't bang average, that's unfair. They're both slightly above your average league two player.

Sbarra for me is a player waiting for a snooker pitch, a perfect passing game, where 2nd balls and head tennis aren't a reality, but that's not league two. Clifton is not as pretty, but twice as effective.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #8 on January 25, 2025, 06:07:12 pm by GazLaz »
Sbarra is a good player but he doesn’t suit our style does he.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #9 on January 25, 2025, 06:07:47 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Is there an option to play 2 strikers instead? I’d like to see Street and Ironside together in a front 2.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #10 on January 25, 2025, 06:12:45 pm by CJK »
Sbarra is a good player but he doesn’t suit our style does he.

I'm still wondering, particularly for home games, what our style is?

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #11 on January 25, 2025, 06:21:56 pm by GazLaz »
Sbarra is a good player but he doesn’t suit our style does he.

I'm still wondering, particularly for home games, what our style is?

Is it 5 goals in the first halves of the home games this season.. dreadful is what it is.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #12 on January 25, 2025, 06:31:20 pm by selby »
  Singling anyone out today is a bit harsh, apart from the keeper and Olowu everyone else served up a slug fest, plenty of effort and little class, with little football played but nobody having a  poor game really
   Hard work got us the points and another clean sheet which gives you a chance in any game, and Crew showed flashes he could be a big player for us to the end of the season.
 Sbarra ran himself out, and worked very hard while on the pitch and put a shift in, and I will take that off a player.
  Two wins two clean sheets, when not being at our fluid best, keep it up.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #13 on January 25, 2025, 06:36:14 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Ok, we've managed a win today, but we have once again been awful at home.

The goal game from the one and only time we ran at Harrogate through the middle. The rest of the match, we were ponderously slow again, allowing them to get a well organised defence to repel the eventual hopeful ball chucked in from wide.

I really don't get what we expect to happen in these home games against organised, discplined defences. Just week after week playing the same blunt instrument approach.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #14 on January 25, 2025, 06:36:47 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Weakest area in our team now. Hurst's ship seems to have sailed if he can't make that spot his own over those 2

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #15 on January 25, 2025, 06:41:10 pm by Alan Southstand »
S’Barra could go on loan for me - not up to it. We need better!

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #16 on January 25, 2025, 06:42:15 pm by andyst79 »
Weakest area in our team now. Hurst's ship seems to have sailed if he can't make that spot his own over those 2
Thought his display at Bradford was a coming of age moment but sadly doesn't seem that way. Bags of ability, maybe it's the mental aspect of his game letting him down .

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #17 on January 25, 2025, 06:48:54 pm by keith79 »
I like sbarra I dont think he has been given enough time

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #18 on January 25, 2025, 06:50:35 pm by roversdude »
Thought Sbarra was decent today, also thought Olowu was below his usual standard

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #19 on January 25, 2025, 06:53:18 pm by Fal »
Clifton is what you need in league two, sbarra is what you need in league 1. Just completely different styles in each league.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #20 on January 25, 2025, 06:53:39 pm by ForsolongaRover »
McCann’s style I surely tough and “no-nonsense” and perhaps he’s drilled that into the defence now, but the attack shilly-shallies. It’s not he first time Clifton has epitomised what we ought to be doing in this league.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #21 on January 25, 2025, 06:54:32 pm by 5minstogo »
Sbarra has been good in the last three games. Chaser back well today and won quite a few tackles. Offers more attacking wise than Clifton imo

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #22 on January 25, 2025, 06:56:08 pm by GazLaz »
Clifton is what you need in league two, sbarra is what you need in league 1. Just completely different styles in each league.

Just nonsense that. Why was Sbarra so good in the Conference on that logic?!?

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #23 on January 25, 2025, 07:13:50 pm by Jonathan »
Sbarra doesn’t slow play down. He releases the ball quicker and smarter than anyone in the team.

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« Reply #24 on January 25, 2025, 10:49:01 pm by Usher wide. »
Sorry Jonathan but he gave the ball away as many times in that tight midfield area today than he won possession.

We have a ‘very soft’ midfield in my opinion in as much as we still lack a midfield player who can get on the ball, shrug off challenges then play a good pass to feet. Clearly now we are where we are in that department so, that ‘congestion’ in midfield has to be bypassed by better employment of our loanees i.e., using their technique on the ball to stretch opposing defenders by being more expansive & getting the ball wide quicker then following up to take another pass or win a 2nd phase of play.

In essence, if we’re to play on the front foot & press when out of possession (as Grant has told us time after time that is his ‘mantra’) well sorry but I see us failing badly to play like that.

Today we were bloody awful against a team in the bottom eight of this c**p league.

We need to & HAVE to do better if we’re going to get anywhere near an automatic promotion place.

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Re: Sbarra - Clifton
« Reply #25 on January 26, 2025, 01:28:05 am by Ryaldinhio »
Sorry Jonathan but he gave the ball away as many times in that tight midfield area today than he won possession.

We have a ‘very soft’ midfield in my opinion in as much as we still lack a midfield player who can get on the ball, shrug off challenges then play a good pass to feet. Clearly now we are where we are in that department so, that ‘congestion’ in midfield has to be bypassed by better employment of our loanees i.e., using their technique on the ball to stretch opposing defenders by being more expansive & getting the ball wide quicker then following up to take another pass or win a 2nd phase of play.

In essence, if we’re to play on the front foot & press when out of possession (as Grant has told us time after time that is his ‘mantra’) well sorry but I see us failing badly to play like that.

Today we were bloody awful against a team in the bottom eight of this c**p league.

We need to & HAVE to do better if we’re going to get anywhere near an automatic promotion place.

Usher the problem is that when players don't play quick and take 1 touch chances/risks everyone is on their back saying we don't play quick enough. Then when we try to play quick, 1 touch, flicks and turns people moan that it's not coming off and we aren't good enough.

I'm sure 90% of fans and looking like 75% on here didn't play at any level to understand that those at L2 that get the most goals miss the most shots, and those that get all the assists have the worst stats for giving the ball away etc.

If you want a No10 Sbarra trying dangerous passes and little flicks etc he will.give the ball away a lot but you only need 1 or 2 to come off and your infront.

For me I think in the last 3 games he has staked a claim for his starting position.......BUT I did call it a while back that he needed a run in the team so maybe it's just me with rose tinted on.

 

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