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GazLaz

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #90 on April 18, 2025, 07:43:13 am by GazLaz »
I looked at Bradford and thought winnable. I only watched the second half mind.Notts have the better technical players by a mile.

Re experience above. Our most experienced player looks the biggest liability on the pitch for conceding goals. He's bouncing off players too. Then our other experienced player came on and headbutted someone. Same player who we needed on Tuesday to replace Street who's gonna be run into the ground by Monday.

Give me McGrath and Oluwu over experienced Wood and Anderson any day.

Anderson has played okay mind probably a bit unfair dragging him in.

Anderson and Wood earn considerably more than Olowu and JM as well… is that someone over valuing experience again?….



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idler

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #91 on April 18, 2025, 07:44:07 am by idler »
Off to the gym in Bradford now where I’ll see and speak to the City fans who went to or watched the game last night.I’m sure that they will be gutted not to win but they have still kept Notts County at arms length with no damage to goal difference. I won’t be gloating because I know how hard our task still is. How we will be feeling this time on Tuesday morning is anyone’s guess.

drfchound

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #92 on April 18, 2025, 08:10:43 am by drfchound »
Off to the gym in Bradford now where I’ll see and speak to the City fans who went to or watched the game last night.I’m sure that they will be gutted not to win but they have still kept Notts County at arms length with no damage to goal difference. I won’t be gloating because I know how hard our task still is. How we will be feeling this time on Tuesday morning is anyone’s guess.

I really hope you are in a position to go to the gym on 4th May in your Rovers shirt.

IDM

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #93 on April 18, 2025, 08:47:32 am by IDM »
37-year-old McGoldrick scores a wonder goal.

Is experience the most overrated attribute in football?

He's just a very good footballer

DM is a Notts County fan and always wanted to play for them. He’s a huge outlier when it comes to  decisions made on players of that age. He’s levels above this division.

You win.
I give in.

It’s all about attempting to justify a throw away comment about ‘experience being overrated’ Pancho by a poster who will never ‘quantify’ such a ridiculous statement because…….well basically they don’t have wherewithal to do so.

Anyway, let’s forget about ‘know all’s who know nowt’, reight looking for’ard t’tommers game.

C’MON ROVERS!!

It wasn’t a throw away statement.

Your views are decades out of date. I’ll say it again and maybe turn your hearing aid on this time. Experience is valuable, but over rated and over valued.

Go out and research these things like I have. Broaden your thinking. Broaden your understanding. Challenge the way you look at things. Must be a little boring seeing things in black and white still.

You ask the leading football brains, Monchi, Michael Edwards, the RB Group men, Tony Bloom, Marcel Brands. I literally spend my life listening and reading about these sort of people to find out how they think about sport in general and  they all agree. Experience is over valued.

I’ll side with them over a couple of geriatrics on a football forum.

Do you enjoy watching Rovers? I mean not only watching them but ‘investing’ in them time wise, financially but most importantly of all, emotionally?

Because for all your ‘swapping gibes’ with those who query what you get out of ‘supporting’ Rovers (well done for the monies donated to the academy last season by the way after your ill timed judgement ‘that season’ on Joe Ironside’s scoring capabilities) you come across as a ‘reight miserable bugger’.

As for my ‘views being decades out of date’ then quoting ‘the works’ of Michael Edward’s, Tony Bloom, Marcel Blands as the ‘way forward’….do me a favour. They follow on the footsteps of Michel Platini, Johan Cruyff, Vico Passanno et al.

1.I watch Rovers because I was born in Donny. Not Barcelona, or Milan, not Liverpool or thank gawd Leeds. So that makes them ‘my team’, through thick & thin.

2. Although I left Doncaster at the age of seventeen to go & work in London (travelling into the City daily from Kent by train) I never lost the fact that, even as my peers who chose not to move away from the town for whatever reasons (sometimes the status quo is hard to engage from?) chose not to, Rovers were my ‘touch stone’ to a previous life & family so that was a massive pull for me.

3. I’ve shared so many great moments with my team. A Golden Goal victory at Stoke’s Brittania Stadium to see us back playing League football after six years in ‘the wilderness’ of Conference League Football. The Johnstones Paint Trophy win at the Millennium Stadium. A League One play off victory against Leeds at Wembley.

Like to share any experiences that have got your head out of your spreadsheet's & your ‘body being transported to another place’ in your years following the Rovers?

No? Neh mind eh.

P.S. if you’re truly following the Mantra’s of a 58 year old ex  Italian goalkeeper & what is fundamentally a ‘risk management’ company which you “literally spend my life listening & reading about”, I feel sorry for your wife & kids (if you have any) your family & friends but mostly & quite sincerely…you. Get a life.



Do I enjoy watching Donny? I’ve been to 40+ games this season and probably averaged 30+ games per season over the last 28 years.

Every other word spoken in my house is “Rovers”. Two kids that are season ticket holders and one that’s too young at the minute although at 1yo when you say “where’s Donny” he runs and points to the nearest Donny badge he can find! Literally just been woken up by the middle one singing Rovers songs FFS. My family have been going regularly since 1947. I could tell you plenty about Hardwick, Bycroft and Miller et al from the 50s, not seen their names in any spreadsheets.

I’ve been at all the “big” games since 1997 home and away (bar Chester away!) and had the same ups and downs as everyone.

Don’t question me as a fan just because I can both enjoy game in the same way any other fan would and also apply an analytical lens when I want too.

 



I get that stats are your job yes.?  Also I do understand that professional football clubs will use such stats to help manage and trade players, and the bookies use them too.

That’s all fine.

But that doesn’t necessarily translate to what I can only describe as the traditional fan experience, which is all about emotions, desires, ups and downs etc.  sometimes watching your side tough out an ugly result is just as satisfying (not necessarily enjoyable) as a free flowing attacking goal fest.

The players too will have desires and emotions.  How do stats measure that, and their confidence etc?  How do stats measure or predict referee performance, team changes (to both sides) due to suspensions and managers’ preferences?

I get that you can be in both camps and I respect that this is your profession, but it’s different for me and I guess for many many other supporters.

Stats to that depth have their place for sure, but for many of us, it’s too much we don’t need to know in order to enjoy the footy.  It over complicates what is in reality a simple pleasure.

I hope that makes sense and doesn’t cause offence.

NickDRFC

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #94 on April 18, 2025, 09:31:12 am by NickDRFC »
37-year-old McGoldrick scores a wonder goal.

Is experience the most overrated attribute in football?

He's just a very good footballer

DM is a Notts County fan and always wanted to play for them. He’s a huge outlier when it comes to  decisions made on players of that age. He’s levels above this division.

You win.
I give in.

It’s all about attempting to justify a throw away comment about ‘experience being overrated’ Pancho by a poster who will never ‘quantify’ such a ridiculous statement because…….well basically they don’t have wherewithal to do so.

Anyway, let’s forget about ‘know all’s who know nowt’, reight looking for’ard t’tommers game.

C’MON ROVERS!!

It wasn’t a throw away statement.

Your views are decades out of date. I’ll say it again and maybe turn your hearing aid on this time. Experience is valuable, but over rated and over valued.

Go out and research these things like I have. Broaden your thinking. Broaden your understanding. Challenge the way you look at things. Must be a little boring seeing things in black and white still.

You ask the leading football brains, Monchi, Michael Edwards, the RB Group men, Tony Bloom, Marcel Brands. I literally spend my life listening and reading about these sort of people to find out how they think about sport in general and  they all agree. Experience is over valued.

I’ll side with them over a couple of geriatrics on a football forum.

Do you enjoy watching Rovers? I mean not only watching them but ‘investing’ in them time wise, financially but most importantly of all, emotionally?

Because for all your ‘swapping gibes’ with those who query what you get out of ‘supporting’ Rovers (well done for the monies donated to the academy last season by the way after your ill timed judgement ‘that season’ on Joe Ironside’s scoring capabilities) you come across as a ‘reight miserable bugger’.

As for my ‘views being decades out of date’ then quoting ‘the works’ of Michael Edward’s, Tony Bloom, Marcel Blands as the ‘way forward’….do me a favour. They follow on the footsteps of Michel Platini, Johan Cruyff, Vico Passanno et al.

1.I watch Rovers because I was born in Donny. Not Barcelona, or Milan, not Liverpool or thank gawd Leeds. So that makes them ‘my team’, through thick & thin.

2. Although I left Doncaster at the age of seventeen to go & work in London (travelling into the City daily from Kent by train) I never lost the fact that, even as my peers who chose not to move away from the town for whatever reasons (sometimes the status quo is hard to engage from?) chose not to, Rovers were my ‘touch stone’ to a previous life & family so that was a massive pull for me.

3. I’ve shared so many great moments with my team. A Golden Goal victory at Stoke’s Brittania Stadium to see us back playing League football after six years in ‘the wilderness’ of Conference League Football. The Johnstones Paint Trophy win at the Millennium Stadium. A League One play off victory against Leeds at Wembley.

Like to share any experiences that have got your head out of your spreadsheet's & your ‘body being transported to another place’ in your years following the Rovers?

No? Neh mind eh.

P.S. if you’re truly following the Mantra’s of a 58 year old ex  Italian goalkeeper & what is fundamentally a ‘risk management’ company which you “literally spend my life listening & reading about”, I feel sorry for your wife & kids (if you have any) your family & friends but mostly & quite sincerely…you. Get a life.



Do I enjoy watching Donny? I’ve been to 40+ games this season and probably averaged 30+ games per season over the last 28 years.

Every other word spoken in my house is “Rovers”. Two kids that are season ticket holders and one that’s too young at the minute although at 1yo when you say “where’s Donny” he runs and points to the nearest Donny badge he can find! Literally just been woken up by the middle one singing Rovers songs FFS. My family have been going regularly since 1947. I could tell you plenty about Hardwick, Bycroft and Miller et al from the 50s, not seen their names in any spreadsheets.

I’ve been at all the “big” games since 1997 home and away (bar Chester away!) and had the same ups and downs as everyone.

Don’t question me as a fan just because I can both enjoy game in the same way any other fan would and also apply an analytical lens when I want too.

 



I get that stats are your job yes.?  Also I do understand that professional football clubs will use such stats to help manage and trade players, and the bookies use them too.

That’s all fine.

But that doesn’t necessarily translate to what I can only describe as the traditional fan experience, which is all about emotions, desires, ups and downs etc.  sometimes watching your side tough out an ugly result is just as satisfying (not necessarily enjoyable) as a free flowing attacking goal fest.

The players too will have desires and emotions.  How do stats measure that, and their confidence etc?  How do stats measure or predict referee performance, team changes (to both sides) due to suspensions and managers’ preferences?

I get that you can be in both camps and I respect that this is your profession, but it’s different for me and I guess for many many other supporters.

Stats to that depth have their place for sure, but for many of us, it’s too much we don’t need to know in order to enjoy the footy.  It over complicates what is in reality a simple pleasure.

I hope that makes sense and doesn’t cause offence.

I doubt that Gaz, or any fan at that rate, is at a game and their first thought after a goal is “I wonder what the xG was there?” Surely a forum where there’s always loads of armchair analysis is a reasonable place to try to add to the discussion, and if you’re not interested it’s easy to ignore it.

Nudga

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #95 on April 18, 2025, 10:06:16 am by Nudga »
Does it really matter what we get out of watching Rovers?
End of the day,  we're all nerdy t**ts that probably spend far too much time on here because we're all passionately obsessed with our club.

For what it's worth, I've met some top class people from this forum, and guys I would now class as friends.
I think maybe sometimes we need to take a step back and look at what we've really got.
We're all different,  with different views and ideas of how football should be played but we have one common purpose.
We didn't choose this club, this club chose us.

i_ateallthepies

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #96 on April 18, 2025, 11:03:16 am by i_ateallthepies »
Really enjoyed watching that and it’s amazing how we all see games differently. For the first 60 mins or so I thought both teams were fast, strong and well organised, attacking at pace and in numbers and closing down in numbers. Plenty of one touch passing and movement as well, something we’re sadly lacking this season. Big game tomorrow and Monday then let’s see what we have to do after that

Glad you saw the game that way, EPS because that's exactly what I saw too.

philsky

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #97 on April 18, 2025, 11:06:21 am by philsky »
I looked at Bradford and thought winnable. I only watched the second half mind.Notts have the better technical players by a mile.

Re experience above. Our most experienced player looks the biggest liability on the pitch for conceding goals. He's bouncing off players too. Then our other experienced player came on and headbutted someone. Same player who we needed on Tuesday to replace Street who's gonna be run into the ground by Monday.

Give me McGrath and Oluwu over experienced Wood and Anderson any day.

Anderson has played okay mind probably a bit unfair dragging him in.

Wowsers - different level

idler

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #98 on April 18, 2025, 11:24:29 am by idler »
Off to the gym in Bradford now where I’ll see and speak to the City fans who went to or watched the game last night.I’m sure that they will be gutted not to win but they have still kept Notts County at arms length with no damage to goal difference. I won’t be gloating because I know how hard our task still is. How we will be feeling this time on Tuesday morning is anyone’s guess.

I really hope you are in a position to go to the gym on 4th May in your Rovers shirt.
I will be hound. Hopefully City will go up as well so I can go in the Corn Dolly pre match as usual. Their fans in the gym were disappointed this morning at bottling it in front of 20 odd thousand. Different fans had slightly different views of course. Only today’s results will tell if it is a good point or not. I always wear my Rovers tops win lose or draw and have a good natter with them.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: All eyes to Thursday.......
« Reply #99 on April 18, 2025, 11:40:06 am by DonnyOsmond »
For a load of people who like to come on here after a game saying things like "he should have stopped that cross", "he can't pass for toffee", "we can't cross a ball", "he didn't win a header/tackle all game", etc you really don't like when people quantify those exact same things you're saying... And because one person likes to use numbers as well as what he's seen to judge things doesn't mean he doesn't feel the emotions during the game as strong or stronger than any one of us.

All he's doing is backing up his opinion with facts.

 

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