Should the 1st of stood?

[i_ateallthepies]

What was the difference between the shirt pull for the pen and the three shirt pulls on our players in the first half which the ref didn’t give.
All three of those stopped our players in their tracks while we were attacking.

There is no difference, Hound.  They're all fouls, that's the inconsistency I spoke about.

[ForsolongaRover]

What was the difference between the shirt pull for the pen and the three shirt pulls on our players in the first half which the ref didn’t give.
All three of those stopped our players in their tracks while we were attacking.

The man in possession was running towards the ref (and diagonally away from the goal). He had a perfect view and it was a very ill-judged challenge which also involved an arm across the attacker’s chest; if you play it back at half speed it is undeniably a deliberate attempt to pull the player down.

It has to be accepted that referees will punish fouls which they see in the box. You cannot reasonably argue that what might look like a minor offence ought to be ignored. Defenders should learn from such experiences especially when they are in full view of the referee in the penalty area. It was ill-judged and we should be blaming O’Riordan.

If it hadn’t have been given, the Assessor would be marking the ref down very severely.

[drfchound]

I sincerely wish that ref assessors reports could be viewed by supporters because I often wonder how some refs keep on getting games to officiate.
You have quoted my post but not answered the question I asked in it.
I also don’t know why you would think that O’Riorden would deliberately try to pull their player down, knowing full well that it would result in a penalty being awarded.
There was contact between the two players, agreed.
But it is what happens in every game and very rarely are pens awarded in situations like the one the other night.
It is a chance defenders take and more often than not they get away with it.

[donnievic]

The pen is a tuff one yes he did have hold of him but it’s the way he goes down from the contact,all defenders would have contact like that when running close and if he doesn’t Connor would then be blame for letting him get by to easy it’s a Catch 22 in that situation,and yes most times would be a foul anywhere else on the field but the ref Tuesday did let alot of it go,as for what goes on at corners you can’t give a foul before the ball is played but the ref only can see so much at corners when the ball comes in and hasn’t got as much viewing area as fans in the stands but I’m sure now I read sumwhere it only if the ball is going towards the player being fouled ie push/pulled/held when the ref will give a pen.

 Not just us though with pens as league 2 still as bad going by chesterfiekds game at gillingham Tuesday and Fleetwood v Bromley last sat

[ss1953]

That push on Billy when he retaliated and got booked, is only legal in Rugby.

Nothing said by the ref

[ForsolongaRover]

I sincerely wish that ref assessors reports could be viewed by supporters because I often wonder how some refs keep on getting games to officiate.
You have quoted my post but not answered the question I asked in it.
I also don’t know why you would think that O’Riorden would deliberately try to pull their player down, knowing full well that it would result in a penalty being awarded.
There was contact between the two players, agreed.
But it is what happens in every game and very rarely are pens awarded in situations like the one the other night.
It is a chance defenders take and more often than not they get away with it.

I can't  defend inconsistency and won't try. The way he falls does look contrived, but it was surprising that he managed to remain upright under the initial contact. At worse you could say it balanced out the Exeter penalty decision.

[Robbo]

No it doesn’t. That was a clear handball as has been discussed before.