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[BobG]

It's 4.30 pm, MOnday, now. I've not seen, or heard of, any announcement yet....

BobG

[BobG]

6.02 pm. It is Byrne.

BobG

[Cramby10]

It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?

Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.

What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.

I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.

To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.

Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club

arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.

[Colemans Left Hook]

6.02 pm. It is Byrne.

BobG

 Rumour is he was out yesterday celebrating Byrne's Night and they had to find him.

[Barmby Rover]

It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?

Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.

What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.

I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.

To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.

Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club

arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.

It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.

[5minstogo]

It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?

Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.

What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.

I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.

To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.

Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club

arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.

It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.

He only had to make the goal line clearance because he let his man saunter past him.

[Cramby10]

It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?

Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.

What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.

I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.

To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.

Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club

arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.

It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.

the match lasts 90 mins. Talk me through the last half hours display then. He’s an absolute liability.

[Drover]

McGrath had a very good first half and a very poor last half hour,but so did others.

[Fal]

It’s very likely to be Byrne, some posts this morning on the city forum suggesting he’s joining us.
If it his him, then I don’t see him has having the same experience as Matty Pearson, thus this begs the question why is matty not playing?

Its almost as if "experience" is not the most important thing when signing players and should be treated as a "nice to have"... Having a starting point of "experienced" or "leader" when recruiting can lead you into all sorts of traps.

What is a requirement of being experienced? Does your age have to start with a 3? What value have we got out of the players that have been 30+ years old when we have signed them in the last 10 years? Very little I'd imagine. Its a comfort blanket for managers/ recruitment teams who cant identify talent IMO. That's not necessarily a dig at our current men recruiting, because it happens throughout football.

I am not sure what you mean by your post, in this instance experience as got nothing to do with age. In our position we need someone who is experienced and can perform well playing at L1 level. It’s really quite simple.

To perform well at our level requires an individual who actually performs well at our level now, not a player who is not a League 1 regular. It seems that we cannot afford to pay a transfer fee and that we can only afford a loan fee in which case, should it not be at Championship clubs that we should be looking? If a L1 player can't get a regular game with his present club you question whether he is really likely to be better than what we have already. Do L1 clubs really have players not good enough to get regular games yet comfortably better than what we already have? It really shows very little of the ambition with which we supposedly began this season.

Arguably Wigan's best player on Saturday is on loan there from another League One club

arguably Wigans best player on Saturday was Jay McGrath!! I think this new lad is the least of our worries.

It was McGrath who scored our second goal, and cleared the line from an almost certain goal in the 5th minute.

the match lasts 90 mins. Talk me through the last half hours display then. He’s an absolute liability.

For me yes he has made a few mistakes but at 60 mins we took off the one player that was holding up the ball in Wigans half who was allowing us to push up the pitch, and one of the creative players. Hanlan couldn't keep a hold of the ball and his control was poor which then meant we lost the ball and pressure was put back on the defence again and this happened repeatedly for those remaining 30 mins, and then another creative player is taken off.

Can't keep blaming the defence every time as a lot of the goals we have conceded have been from wayward passes in midfield or people losing the ball in midfield putting immediate pressure on the defence.

The plymouth and southampton goals were a prime example of this happening, Wigan too when Frankie hit a random ball back into our half and wigan nearly scored if it wasn't for McGrath.

[Cramby10]

McGrath had a very good first half and a very poor last half hour,but so did most of the rest.

sadly these poor halves are happenings nearly every week from him. The lad can’t concentrate and loses his head. I dread to think the amount of goals he’s cost us this season. It may be temporary but his form is stinking the place out. If we persist with him it more than likely will cost us in the end.