Luton’s parachute payments of £32 million

[Arsenal Of The North]

Wrexham look a disaster waiting to happen. Just paid £2m for Conor Coady. His wages will be what? 50k week? Also bid £7m for him the Ipswich lad.

Yes, there is major advertising revenue but they are going to find it far harder going this season in Championship. Lower mid table obscurity in the second tier isn’t quite the Hollywood story is it?

I personally think it’s their best chance, in my opinion the championship this season looks the weakest it’s been in years! I expect Birmingham and Wrexham to be in the mix for the top 6.

[GazLaz]

Wrexham look a disaster waiting to happen. Just paid £2m for Conor Coady. His wages will be what? 50k week? Also bid £7m for him the Ipswich lad.

Yes, there is major advertising revenue but they are going to find it far harder going this season in Championship. Lower mid table obscurity in the second tier isn’t quite the Hollywood story is it?

They are buying their next manager in Coady…

[NickDRFC]

Wrexham look a disaster waiting to happen. Just paid £2m for Conor Coady. His wages will be what? 50k week? Also bid £7m for him the Ipswich lad.

Yes, there is major advertising revenue but they are going to find it far harder going this season in Championship. Lower mid table obscurity in the second tier isn’t quite the Hollywood story is it?

They are buying their next manager in Coady…

The team talks would be something else. He talks like John Barnes on a sped up WhatsApp message.

[rich1471]

I have always said, and still do, that Parachute Payments following relegation is wrong.

Give the club the money when they get to the league- say to them, "there's your £50m (as an example) reward for getting to this league - spend it wisely to try and stay up by all means, but get relegated and you ain't getting feck all else apart from the payment for your final league position - good luck,"

Regardless of division.

The whole, "Hard luck on your relegation, here's some money to help you in the league below" doesn't wash with me and never has.

Reward success by all means, but that should be it - a reward  for success.

If they did not get parachute payments all clubs going up would come straight back down or go bust they need to try and compete

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I have always said, and still do, that Parachute Payments following relegation is wrong.

Give the club the money when they get to the league- say to them, "there's your £50m (as an example) reward for getting to this league - spend it wisely to try and stay up by all means, but get relegated and you ain't getting feck all else apart from the payment for your final league position - good luck,"

Regardless of division.

The whole, "Hard luck on your relegation, here's some money to help you in the league below" doesn't wash with me and never has.

Reward success by all means, but that should be it - a reward  for success.

If they did not get parachute payments all clubs going up would come straight back down or go bust they need to try and compete

If that's the case, there's obviously something fundamentally wrong with the system which has allowed such a gulf between Championship and Prem. Football, with all the smart people in it, should be able to manage the financial risks, including their player contracts with relegation clauses etc.

What you're saying proves intelligence has been overriden by greed where sensible decisions haven't been made. Parachute payments are a sticking plaster rather than a permanent solution.

[sedwardsdrfc]

I have always said, and still do, that Parachute Payments following relegation is wrong.

Give the club the money when they get to the league- say to them, "there's your £50m (as an example) reward for getting to this league - spend it wisely to try and stay up by all means, but get relegated and you ain't getting feck all else apart from the payment for your final league position - good luck,"

Regardless of division.

The whole, "Hard luck on your relegation, here's some money to help you in the league below" doesn't wash with me and never has.

Reward success by all means, but that should be it - a reward  for success.

If they did not get parachute payments all clubs going up would come straight back down or go bust they need to try and compete

If that's the case, there's obviously something fundamentally wrong with the system which has allowed such a gulf between Championship and Prem. Football, with all the smart people in it, should be able to manage the financial risks, including their player contracts with relegation clauses etc.

What you're saying proves intelligence has been overriden by greed where sensible decisions haven't been made. Parachute payments are a sticking plaster rather than a permanent solution.

Thing is you can have the contracts written to protect the clubs etc but no one is signing for a newly promoted club with a 90% pay cut written in. No one of a standard to make those clubs competitive anyway.

Yes it shows there’s something wrong with the game but the payments are needed for the good of the top flight and safety of clubs trying to compete.

Not sure how it’s solved without handicapping the prem. maybe that’s not the worst thing in the world but as a country it’s a big asset so we’re unlikely to try and weaken it.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I have always said, and still do, that Parachute Payments following relegation is wrong.

Give the club the money when they get to the league- say to them, "there's your £50m (as an example) reward for getting to this league - spend it wisely to try and stay up by all means, but get relegated and you ain't getting feck all else apart from the payment for your final league position - good luck,"

Regardless of division.

The whole, "Hard luck on your relegation, here's some money to help you in the league below" doesn't wash with me and never has.

Reward success by all means, but that should be it - a reward  for success.

If they did not get parachute payments all clubs going up would come straight back down or go bust they need to try and compete

If that's the case, there's obviously something fundamentally wrong with the system which has allowed such a gulf between Championship and Prem. Football, with all the smart people in it, should be able to manage the financial risks, including their player contracts with relegation clauses etc.

What you're saying proves intelligence has been overriden by greed where sensible decisions haven't been made. Parachute payments are a sticking plaster rather than a permanent solution.

Thing is you can have the contracts written to protect the clubs etc but no one is signing for a newly promoted club with a 90% pay cut written in. No one of a standard to make those clubs competitive anyway.

Yes it shows there’s something wrong with the game but the payments are needed for the good of the top flight and safety of clubs trying to compete.

Not sure how it’s solved without handicapping the prem. maybe that’s not the worst thing in the world but as a country it’s a big asset so we’re unlikely to try and weaken it.

That's cos we're brainwashed to believe the Prem would be weaker and wouldn't attract good players. But what's actually happening is overinflated wages for alot of average players, only too happy to return to other European Leagues after making a mint from the Prem, not forgetting the agents who love the Premier League.

[Chris Black come back]

  Just relegated big parachute payments, what odds were they to get promotion last season?

Millionaire owners don’t n spend money unless they’ve covered its potential loss first . Ryan Lowe is a panic buy and vain demonstration of their problems after having to shed players on higher wages and it could pay off, yet with several potential clubs who will be challenging its back to the drawing board . Rovers ,  Stockport and even Peterborough are all good out side bets to  spoil their  challenge. Rtid

Peterborough could come good but you would think it might be after they part company with Ferguson. Their last 10 league games have seen 0 wins, 3 draws and 7 losses. Of particular note, they have lost all three league games this season, scoring only one goal. Their next two games are Bradford and Barnsley. Will be interesting to see if their Chairman has the patience if they come out of those two with nothing to show.

[Chris Black come back]

Wrexham look a disaster waiting to happen. Just paid £2m for Conor Coady. His wages will be what? 50k week? Also bid £7m for him the Ipswich lad.

Yes, there is major advertising revenue but they are going to find it far harder going this season in Championship. Lower mid table obscurity in the second tier isn’t quite the Hollywood story is it?

Not working out for him at Wrexham. Sent out to Charlton on loan for rest of season

[Usher wide.]

Look certainties for the title do Luton. 7/2 looks a great price. Best squad in the league by a mile for me.

Could argue one of the best managers too with where he got Wycombe to before leaving.

Ooops.

9 points ahead of Rovers.

20 points behind Cardiff.

We’ll be playing them again next season.

[Monolith No. 9]

Look certainties for the title do Luton. 7/2 looks a great price. Best squad in the league by a mile for me.

Could argue one of the best managers too with where he got Wycombe to before leaving.

Ooops.

9 points ahead of Rovers.

20 points behind Cardiff.

We’ll be playing them again next season.

Good!

Had the misfortune to have to listen to a small party of their supporters over a coffee at a service station on the way back from a Rovers game while they were in the Premier League. Unlike the Barnsley fans who adopted a ‘we’ll enjoy it while we can’ attitude, this lot were adamant they were in need of a massive new stadium for their extended stay in the top flight. I was told it was difficult as a fan of a smaller club like DRFC to understand the complexities of performing and remaining at those rare heights and, that as they eyes of the entire world were fixed on the Premier League and bringing so much money into the country, it was ‘wrong for lower league clubs to keep bleating on about distribution of money down to lower divisions’.

I have enjoyed every minute of them slipping down the leagues and long may it continue.  Not that I hold grudges.

[GazLaz]

Look certainties for the title do Luton. 7/2 looks a great price. Best squad in the league by a mile for me.

Could argue one of the best managers too with where he got Wycombe to before leaving.

Ooops.

9 points ahead of Rovers.

20 points behind Cardiff.

We’ll be playing them again next season.

Imagine having such a mondain life that all you have to think about is when someone on the internet has an opinion that ends up being wrong. Interesting that Opta have Luton 2pts off Cardiff on their expected goals table.

I notice you didn't quote me saying we were a certainty to beat Orient on Tuesday, must be in the pipeline that one.

[ncRover]

Look certainties for the title do Luton. 7/2 looks a great price. Best squad in the league by a mile for me.

Could argue one of the best managers too with where he got Wycombe to before leaving.

Ooops.

9 points ahead of Rovers.

20 points behind Cardiff.

We’ll be playing them again next season.

Eh? That manager has gone to Oxford in the Championship and turned them around.

[BobG]

It is indeed very wierd the stuff Usher sees fit to post. Hardly evidence of maturity tbh.

BobG

[Barmby Rover]

The Premier League has destroyed football in the UK and this is just another example of their corruption. These payments are not needed at all, clubs just have to have a relegation clause written into contracts which says if you are part of a relegation then your wages can be cut down by 80%, but you can always have a free transfer if you choose not to do so. These clubs, and their players are getting a massive reward for being failures, that should not be allowed.

[GazLaz]

The Premier League has destroyed football in the UK and this is just another example of their corruption. These payments are not needed at all, clubs just have to have a relegation clause written into contracts which says if you are part of a relegation then your wages can be cut down by 80%, but you can always have a free transfer if you choose not to do so. These clubs, and their players are getting a massive reward for being failures, that should not be allowed.

The Premier League have managed their product sensationally. Whatever they have done has worked. The standard is miles above any other league in the world and the revenue they generate is phenomenal. This has filtered down to raising the level of the second tier, which has again had a knock on effect to the standard of the top of L1 in the last couple of years also.

I do think we should have 4 divisions of 20 teams in the EFL though. 46 league games is too many and that should free up the bottle neck at the top of the conference. A division with the bottom four in the championship and the top 16 in L1 would just be superb.

[Barmby Rover]

It is only better than most leagues in the world because they have stolen the best players by having very dodgy money bribing them to play here in the cheats league. The dodgy accountancy stops 90% of the clubs there from being closed down as insolvent, and is a great place to launder money for criminals/sovereign wealth fund.

[Usher wide.]

It is only better than most leagues in the world because they have stolen the best players by having very dodgy money bribing them to play here in the cheats league. The dodgy accountancy stops 90% of the clubs there from being closed down as insolvent, and is a great place to launder money for criminals/sovereign wealth fund.

Nail on the head.

Russians, Saudi’s, Thai’s come launder your money here in ‘English Football’.

No stringent rules or governing bodies that can’t have ‘their arms twisted’.

Supporters of once renowned clubs will welcome you with open arms happy to drink from any ‘poisoned chalice’ just to see their team play at ‘the top table’ one last time before they die.

What a sad indictment of the game once ‘born’ on these shores.

[drfchound]

I see that the “Man City investigation” has been put back a further year.

[Avsuptem]

Wouldn't it be nice if there was a rule that you had to be born or raised in the vicinity in order to play for your home town club. A bit like Yorkshire cricket used to be. We would have been champions regularly.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

All depends what criteria you use to indicate success. 

How many clubs remain UK owned?

How many clubs are owned and solely funded by local business people and their fans?

What is there to encourage local busines people to give back to their communities  when being a millionaire is no longer sufficient to support a club long term?

Surely,  an indicator of success is how strong the whole pyramid is. There would not be a Premier League without the rest of the Pyramid.