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German Rover

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Osama Dead
« on May 02, 2011, 04:46:43 am by German Rover »
:byebye :byebye

thanks for the good times, thanks for the fact i've spent 5 of the last ten christmas days in the desert. I truely hope your 70 virgins are all susan boyle.



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not on facebook

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #1 on May 02, 2011, 05:48:10 am by not on facebook »
great news,will post my thoughts later on today

I-was-there1976

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #2 on May 02, 2011, 07:56:30 am by I-was-there1976 »
i dont know whats more shocking

OBL has been killed or Steve Brooker can run again

MrFrost

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #3 on May 02, 2011, 08:14:52 am by MrFrost »
May he rot in hell. Although I still think some on here would have rather woken to the news that Thatcher was dead..........................!!!

The Red Baron

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #4 on May 02, 2011, 08:22:29 am by The Red Baron »
I was a bit bleary-eyed when I logged on this morning and I when I looked at this item I thought the KKK had finally got their man and that we would be seeing President Biden later on!

And they found him in Pakistan- and not exactly in the mountains either. I wonder how long the Pakistan government had known his whereabouts?

Boomstick

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #5 on May 02, 2011, 08:32:27 am by Boomstick »
conspiracy theorists are gonna have a field day on this one. Obama recently admitted he can't close Guantanamo bay despite the pre election promise to do so, and his popularity is at an all time low because nothing is changing. So perhaps some timely 'good news' was needed, afterall he's up for re-election next year.
Body buried at sea? hmmmmm.......

pkt_drfc

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #6 on May 02, 2011, 08:42:23 am by pkt_drfc »
Quote from: \"Boomstick\" post=154896
conspiracy theorists are gonna have a field day on this one. Obama recently admitted he can't close Guantanamo bay despite the pre election promise to do so, and his popularity is at an all time low because nothing is changing. So perhaps some timely 'good news' was needed, afterall he's up for re-election next year.
Body buried at sea? hmmmmm.......



That is what I thought aswell a bit quick to get rid of the body I think the yanks have still got the body

Boomstick

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #7 on May 02, 2011, 08:46:50 am by Boomstick »
to be fair, they will have photo's. Just wonder if they tried to interrogate him before they killed him.
It will teach him for using his real address on PSN though...

MrFrost

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #8 on May 02, 2011, 08:47:23 am by MrFrost »
They should have paraded the Kitson like a trophy through the streets of New York.

The Red Baron

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #9 on May 02, 2011, 08:52:20 am by The Red Baron »
They didn't make the same mistake that they did with Saddam- i.e. they made sure he wasn't \"captured.\"

RobTheRover

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #10 on May 02, 2011, 09:24:41 am by RobTheRover »
Reports are that they commanded him to surrender, which he politely declined, so they shot him in the head.

Seems fair enough.

Buried at sea was the only option.  Anywhere on land would end up a shrine to extremists.

Apparently Adolf was gutted though.....

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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #11 on May 02, 2011, 09:24:44 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Quote from: \"Boomstick\" post=154903
to be fair, they will have photo's. Just wonder if they tried to interrogate him before they killed him.


Ah, yeah but photos eh? What do they mean? I mean they had photos of planes crashing into the towers but everyone knows the towers were really destroyed by thermite placed there in 1969 when the towers were being built.

I suspect there's more to it than the US is letting on. Until I see Osama's death certificate in Hawaii and a video from a mini sub of his corpse being eaten by Neptune, then I'll refuse to believe he's dead.

Mind, you never know who's driving the min-subs either do you....?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #12 on May 02, 2011, 09:27:49 am by BillyStubbsTears »
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And they found him in Pakistan- and not exactly in the mountains either. I wonder how long the Pakistan government had known his whereabouts?


It depends how you define \"Govt\". I suspect (from snippets I've seen so far) that some local officials must have known that bin Laden was living there. How high up the chain that knowledge went is the big question. It just underlines how worrying the situation is in Pakistan.

RobTheRover

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #13 on May 02, 2011, 09:30:43 am by RobTheRover »
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Ah, yeah but photos eh? What do they mean? I mean they had photos of planes crashing into the towers but everyone knows the towers were really destroyed by thermite placed there in 1969 when the towers were being built.


If anyone hasnt seen \"Loose Change\", here it is.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE

RedJ

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #14 on May 02, 2011, 09:32:45 am by RedJ »
I wonder, will the fundamentalists kick off now? The west has to find a new pariah, now.

jucyberry

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #15 on May 02, 2011, 09:55:17 am by jucyberry »
It doesn't really matter if he is alive or dead, it won't stop terror being done in his name still.. I don't believe removal of a figurehead will stop that, he must have many generals ready to die for his 'cause'.

A bit like the teeth of a shark there is always another waiting when the one before it falls out...

Filo

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #16 on May 02, 2011, 10:32:27 am by Filo »
it`s his own fault! the most wanted man in the world and he insisted on taking his iphone every where he went! :laugh:

jonrover

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #17 on May 02, 2011, 10:40:45 am by jonrover »
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=154890
May he rot in hell. Although I still think some on here would have rather woken to the news that Thatcher was dead..........................!!!


No I'm happy to wait a day or two.

RedJ

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #18 on May 02, 2011, 10:43:04 am by RedJ »
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Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=154890
May he rot in hell. Although I still think some on here would have rather woken to the news that Thatcher was dead..........................!!!


No I'm happy to wait a day or two.


As long as we don't wait too long.

Jelly and ice cream when Thatcher dies and all that :thumbsup:

Sandy Lane

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #19 on May 02, 2011, 10:45:29 am by Sandy Lane »
I think this is seen by most Americans as 'divine justice', but I believe it will inflame the rest of his organization to continue their terrorist acts perhaps more fervently, as well as continue to erode relations with Pakistan.

So I'm not sure how 'good' this is, although it does put things to rest for the families of 9/11.

Pintolager

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #20 on May 02, 2011, 11:15:38 am by Pintolager »
Osama Bin Laden killed in Pakistan.



Who said you can't take the Bin out on a Bank Holiday..........

bobjimwilly

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #21 on May 02, 2011, 12:01:37 pm by bobjimwilly »
Quote from: \"RobTheRover\" post=154932
If anyone hasnt seen \"Loose Change\", here it is.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE


very interesting video that rob.

RobTheRover

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #22 on May 02, 2011, 12:52:51 pm by RobTheRover »
Sure is, isn't it. Lots of unanswered questions still.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Osama Dead
« Reply #23 on May 02, 2011, 01:46:47 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Quote from: \"bobjimwilly\" post=154977
Quote from: \"RobTheRover\" post=154932
If anyone hasnt seen \"Loose Change\", here it is.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE


very interesting video that rob.


Christ up above, that is the biggest load of half baked b*llocks I've ever seen.

Trust me on this one. I KNOW what I'm talking about. The subject of the mechanisms of collapse of buildings like the WTC is something I've worked on for 20 years. And every single comment that the narrator of that film comes out with is either factually incorrect or an ignorant/deliberate (take your choice) warping of the facts to suit his argument. There is NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER on how and why the WTC towers came down. Respected world authorities on the subject had it nailed years ago. Instead, the film pulls out crack-pot self-publicist academics from obscure low ranking universities, with absolutely no knowledge of structural engineering, or the effect of fire/impact/explosions on them to spout \"Well I think that...\"

The comment that the WTC towers were designed to withstand an aircraft impact is factually incorrect. What the designers did in the late 60s was check whether the buildings were massive enough to resist being KNOCKED OVER by the momentum of an impact. They did no analysis whatsoever of the effect of losing 60% of the columns on one face, pancaking of internal floors and weakening of the structure through elevated temperature. They couldn't because no-one could back then - the knowledge simply did not exist.

Structural steel begins to lose it's strength and stiffness at temperatures above ~500C. There are MANY examples of severe structural damage to steelwork from fires of this sort of temperature. You do NOT need to melt or vapourise steel to cause partial or complete collapse.

Whether a building then collapses due to this damage depends entirely on the structural form of the building and the extent of the damage. The WTC towers were of a design which we now recognise as being particularly vulnerable. I'm more than happy to bore the pants off anyone who really wants to understand this, but trust me - it's the case.

The clean central collapse of the towers is perfectly to be expected by anyone who has properly looked at the structural form of the buildings. Again, I'll expound at length if anyone is interested.

The poentential energy released by the mass of ONE floor slab in the WTC building falling by ONE storey height is about equivalent to the detonation energy of 7kg of TNT. In fact, 110 floors fell by an average of 55 storeys each - that would release energy equivalent to the detonation of about 50 Tonnes of TNT!
a)Is there any wonder that people who have never in their lives heard a high explosive detonation claim to have heard explosion noises?
B) Is there any wonder that the buildings collapsed at near free-fall speed? The structural resistance of the lower floors was negligible compared to the energy developed by the falling structure. As far as decelerating the collapse was cocnerened, it might as well have been meccano.

I find it deeply depressing that people are led astray by ill-informed shite like this. There are REALLY important nasty thngs that Governments do in our name without getting carried away with this sort of rubbish.

I-was-there1976

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Re: Osama is ALIVE
« Reply #24 on May 02, 2011, 01:56:30 pm by I-was-there1976 »

GM-MarkB

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Re: Osama is ALIVE
« Reply #25 on May 02, 2011, 03:59:47 pm by GM-MarkB »
I must admit I find it a little incredible that less than 24 hours after killing him, they've disposed of the body.

I know he's not exactly going to be a mine of evidence, but after all this time trying to find him, you'd think they would have spent more time examining him or something.

Just seems a little odd to me

Kenny_Senior

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Re: Osama is ALIVE
« Reply #26 on May 02, 2011, 04:08:51 pm by Kenny_Senior »
Madelline McCann is officially the hide and seek world champion now then?

GM-MarkB

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Re: Osama is ALIVE
« Reply #27 on May 02, 2011, 04:13:26 pm by GM-MarkB »
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Madelline McCann is officially the hide and seek world champion now then?


A few days ago, you declared that people who chanted nasty songs at football matches were 'the lowest of the low'.....:dry:

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Re: Osama is ALIVE
« Reply #28 on May 02, 2011, 04:15:41 pm by Filo »
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I must admit I find it a little incredible that less than 24 hours after killing him, they've disposed of the body.

I know he's not exactly going to be a mine of evidence, but after all this time trying to find him, you'd think they would have spent more time examining him or something.

Just seems a little odd to me



Yep i`ve got to admit, things sound a little dodgy to me.

If reports are to be believed, apparently he was given the opportunity to surrender, he declined and was shot in the head, why was n`t he shot with the intention to wound him and taken alive? Interrogated and then put on trial?

His DNA was taken and matched with his sister stored DNA, can the recovery of the body and DNA samples be done in such a short space of time?

And then you have the burial at seas, without any evidence!


Also, if Pakistan had no knowledge of the attack beforehand why are`nt they screaming blue murder about the violation of Pakistani airspace and un authorised military action in their country?

And how does a high profile international fugitive manage to live right under the noses of the Pakistani equivalent of Sandhurst academy?


Thigs just don`t add up to me!

GM-MarkB

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Re: Osama is ALIVE
« Reply #29 on May 02, 2011, 04:21:17 pm by GM-MarkB »
Quote from: \"Filo\" post=155029
Quote from: \"GM-MarkB\" post=155023
I must admit I find it a little incredible that less than 24 hours after killing him, they've disposed of the body.

I know he's not exactly going to be a mine of evidence, but after all this time trying to find him, you'd think they would have spent more time examining him or something.

Just seems a little odd to me



Yep i`ve got to admit, things sound a little dodgy to me.

If reports are to be believed, apparently he was given the opportunity to surrender, he declined and was shot in the head, why was n`t he shot with the intention to wound him and taken alive? Interrogated and then put on trial?

His DNA was taken and matched with his sister stored DNA, can the recovery of the body and DNA samples be done in such a short space of time?

And then you have the burial at seas, without any evidence!


Also, if Pakistan had no knowledge of the attack beforehand why are`nt they screaming blue murder about the violation of Pakistani airspace and un authorised military action in their country?

And how does a high profile international fugitive manage to live right under the noses of the Pakistani equivalent of Sandhurst academy?


Thigs just don`t add up to me!


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