Are DMBC to blame for Directors walking?

[Red Rover]

Stay with me a minute!

It was pretty common knowledge that Dick, Terry were never going to put their funds into DRFC whilst the council still owned the stadium. They wanted to take control of the stadium then build us up.

Is this a case of negotiations coming to an abrupt end and the result is the big wigs leaving our board?  Didn't John Ryan say in November that we were buying the stadium? Seems a long time ago now!

[MrFrost]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

[Mr1Croft]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

Is the BV site still for sale

[hoolahoop]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

Then the mayor is a prat , this is a community stadium such as they have all over the world. Built by the people , paid for by the people and used by the people. How different was this project from the Cultural Quarter containing possibly the most expensive Council chambers of any town .........was he against that too ?
The majority of the initial costs should have been 'written off' by now and presented if not in full then at least partially to a symbol of the town.
We want City status do we........then act like one for once. Close the stadium if that's the case and let it rot, then in a few years it will be as a rotten and corrupt as our Council.

[MrFrost]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

Then the mayor is a prat , this is a community stadium such as they have all over the world. Built by the people , paid for by the people and used by the people. How different was this project from the Cultural Quarter containing possibly the most expensive Council chambers of any town .........was he against that too ?
The majority of the initial costs should have been 'written off' by now and presented if not in full then at least partially to a symbol of the town.
We want City status do we........then act like one for once. Close the stadium if that's the case and let it rot, then in a few years it will be as a rotten and corrupt as our Council.

Davies is against any new developments in the town, even the Cultural Quarter, which was rubber stamped before he got into power. He has publically stated he wouldn't have allowed this, the stadium, the Frencghate, the College or the airport developments to go ahead.

You can see some logic however, especially if you are not a Rovers fan, a venue that is losing several million per year when council's are having to cut back

[Red Rover]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

Then the mayor is a prat , this is a community stadium such as they have all over the world. Built by the people , paid for by the people and used by the people. How different was this project from the Cultural Quarter containing possibly the most expensive Council chambers of any town .........was he against that too ?
The majority of the initial costs should have been 'written off' by now and presented if not in full then at least partially to a symbol of the town.
We want City status do we........then act like one for once. Close the stadium if that's the case and let it rot, then in a few years it will be as a rotten and corrupt as our Council.

Davies is against any new developments in the town, even the Cultural Quarter, which was rubber stamped before he got into power. He has publically stated he wouldn't have allowed this, the stadium, the Frencghate, the College or the airport developments to go ahead.

You can see some logic however, especially if you are not a Rovers fan, a venue that is losing several million per year when council's are having to cut back

Why don't the council just 'gift' it to the Rovers & Dons? The council comes out of it looking generous, whilst clearing their 2 million yearly bill and the Rovers & Dons can go about making it their real home?

[MrFrost]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

Then the mayor is a prat , this is a community stadium such as they have all over the world. Built by the people , paid for by the people and used by the people. How different was this project from the Cultural Quarter containing possibly the most expensive Council chambers of any town .........was he against that too ?
The majority of the initial costs should have been 'written off' by now and presented if not in full then at least partially to a symbol of the town.
We want City status do we........then act like one for once. Close the stadium if that's the case and let it rot, then in a few years it will be as a rotten and corrupt as our Council.

Davies is against any new developments in the town, even the Cultural Quarter, which was rubber stamped before he got into power. He has publically stated he wouldn't have allowed this, the stadium, the Frencghate, the College or the airport developments to go ahead.

You can see some logic however, especially if you are not a Rovers fan, a venue that is losing several million per year when council's are having to cut back

Why don't the council just 'gift' it to the Rovers & Dons? The council comes out of it looking generous, whilst clearing their 2 million yearly bill and the Rovers & Dons can go about making it their real home?

Maybe because the stadium is a huge loss maker. It is losing money hand over fist. Do Rovers and the Dons really have what it takes to turn it round?

[silent majority]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

There is no truth in that at all. The panel charged with looking at agreeing terms with the Rovers are just about to file their report and rubber stamp the lease deal.

[hoolahoop]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

Then the mayor is a prat , this is a community stadium such as they have all over the world. Built by the people , paid for by the people and used by the people. How different was this project from the Cultural Quarter containing possibly the most expensive Council chambers of any town .........was he against that too ?
The majority of the initial costs should have been 'written off' by now and presented if not in full then at least partially to a symbol of the town.
We want City status do we........then act like one for once. Close the stadium if that's the case and let it rot, then in a few years it will be as a rotten and corrupt as our Council.

Davies is against any new developments in the town, even the Cultural Quarter, which was rubber stamped before he got into power. He has publically stated he wouldn't have allowed this, the stadium, the Frencghate, the College or the airport developments to go ahead.

You can see some logic however, especially if you are not a Rovers fan, a venue that is losing several million per year when council's are having to cut back

Do you stick or twist though, investment brings business, brings ratepayers does this fella want this town to stagnate a la Rotherham, Dewsbury et al or go on to attract new business, private investment and improved national status.
It seems to me that if we go down his direction of standing still/going backwards ......we won't represent a progressive town with facilities and will thus lose private investment and ergo revenue.
Does he want to see horses and carts  on the High Street again ???

[Superspy]

I get why he didn't want the stadium, he doesn't believe tax payers money should go to paying for things relating to sport (read as he's a douche)...what I don't understand is why he is against all new redevelopment in the town...what possible benefit is there to not bringing the town into the 21st century?

[madmick50]

T

hen the mayor is a prat , this is a community stadium such as they have all over the world. Built by the people , paid for by the people and used by the people. How different was this project from the Cultural Quarter containing possibly the most expensive Council chambers of any town .........was he against that too ?
The majority of the initial costs should have been 'written off' by now and presented if not in full then at least partially to a symbol of the town.
We want City status do we........then act like one for once. Close the stadium if that's the case and let it rot, then in a few years it will be as a rotten and corrupt as our Council.

Well said.

[cmonyoureds]

I am not a clever lad dont claim to be dont claim i ever will but i think if i was mayor getting rid of two million of debt a year and a cash amount paying for it is better then paying debts but thats just a lad off a building site though

[hoolahoop]

I get why he didn't want the stadium, he doesn't believe tax payers money should go to paying for things relating to sport (read as he's a douche)...what I don't understand is why he is against all new redevelopment in the town...what possible benefit is there to not bringing the town into the 21st century?

Can I take it that this man doesn't believe in swimming pools, parks, open fields etc. just libraries and the like ? It seems a strange mentality to have when our schools are trying to ramp up their sports and recreational facilities safe in the knowledge that a healthy mind lives in a healthy body. Would he have everyone sat reading in musty old libraries or playing on their playstations in their bedrooms. He needs to get a life or at least look at how other folk live their lives. I don't use the local library/swimming pool but I know they serve a purpose and should be provided in a modern society especially in a deprived area.

[Milepostuk]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

Makes no sense at all. Even an empty, unused stadium will incur costs or, does he want a massive derelict eyesore in the town in 10-15 years time, that will need demolishing at taxpayers expense. If he wants to minimise his cash outflows going forward the only thing to do is sell it!

[RUPRECHT]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

common sense says that would be political suicide even for a muppet like that.

[madmick50]

Can I take it that this man doesn't believe in swimming pools, parks, open fields etc. just libraries and the like ? It seems a strange mentality to have when our schools are trying to ramp up their sports and recreational facilities safe in the knowledge that a healthy mind lives in a healthy body. Would he have everyone sat reading in musty old libraries or playing on their playstations in their bedrooms. He needs to get a life or at least look at how other folk live their lives. I don't use the local library/swimming pool but I know they serve a purpose and should be provided in a modern society especially in a deprived area.

I think you'll find he'd like to close all the libraries as well if he could. Instead he's just shutting half of them.

[Muttley]

Does he want to see horses and carts  on the High Street again ???

If there's a jockey on the horse, then yes!

[hoolahoop]

Does he want to see horses and carts  on the High Street again ???

If there's a jockey on the horse, then yes!

Then we will have to chop any of the trees down in the town too so as not to obscure the view.

[sheriff2971]

It's not hard to see why the stadium makes a loss, every match I go to I see people queuing at the multiple burger vans on the way down to the keepmoat, local pubs full of rovers fans prior to the match, even toad brewery was packed prior to it closing! The simple thing is make it more affordable for everyone, selling twice as many pints but making 25% less would make more profit, this is what successful businesses do! I spend little or nothing in the keepmoat as having 2 kids just a drink each would be over £7!! Stop the rip off sell more at better prices = profitable stadium!!!

[MrFrost]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

There is no truth in that at all. The panel charged with looking at agreeing terms with the Rovers are just about to file their report and rubber stamp the lease deal.

Well JR didn't sound very convincing on the stadium matter when asked on Radio Sheffield!

[The_Rooky]

...if ever you wanted, or needed, something to support the argument against the alternative vote system, Mayor Davis is it!!  No vision or ambition for the Town. It's often said that the electorate get the representatives they deserve - I'm really not sure it's the case in this instance!!!!

[redwine]

Exactly.

Didn't he finish second in the first round of votes.



Also I'm sure voter apathy had a lot to do with it.

In my opinion we don't need a mayor and spoilt my ballot paper as a protest.

Look what I and maybe many others spawned!!!!!!

[Donnylass]

Can I take it that this man doesn't believe in swimming pools, parks, open fields etc. just libraries and the like ? It seems a strange mentality to have when our schools are trying to ramp up their sports and recreational facilities safe in the knowledge that a healthy mind lives in a healthy body. Would he have everyone sat reading in musty old libraries or playing on their playstations in their bedrooms. He needs to get a life or at least look at how other folk live their lives. I don't use the local library/swimming pool but I know they serve a purpose and should be provided in a modern society especially in a deprived area.

I think you'll find he'd like to close all the libraries as well if he could. Instead he's just shutting half of them.

And that's just this year. :cry:  More cuts to be made in the following years until our kids or the community have no health and no free books and computers  

[silent majority]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I know someone who works under the mayor Peter Davies and he told me some weeks ago now that the council are seriously considering closing the doors at the stadium. They cannot come to an agreement with Rovers over a sale or a long term lease, and they aren't prepared to keep losing almost £2 million per year running the place.
It is well known Peter Davies has no time for a football team in Doncaster and has stated many times if he were in power at the time the stadium would never have happened.

There is no truth in that at all. The panel charged with looking at agreeing terms with the Rovers are just about to file their report and rubber stamp the lease deal.

Well JR didn't sound very convincing on the stadium matter when asked on Radio Sheffield!

He might not have.

But what I posted is a fact, what you posted is what some bloke told you. I know which one I would put my money on.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

SM is very much right.  The negotiations with the stadium that led to this so called higher rent meant Rovers should get benefits etc.  Unfortunately the stadium never met these I believe and Rovers never ended up paying the higher rent.

The stadium has to go to Rovers, the SMC can't even afford to maintain the place at the moment and there are problems all over it.

[MrFrost]

Ryan pretty much admitted any deal was uncertain.

[hoolahoop]

Ryan pretty much admitted any deal was uncertain.

Frosty like it or not there is no medium or long term alternative to what the Council MUST do about the stadium.
Yes it's going to cause the usual political uproar and there will be those on the Council who may consider the 'mothball' idea but believe me when 'push comes to shove' they would prefer to look benevolent than lose money at unsustainable rates.

[vaya]

The question of the financial sustainability for the KMS is an argument confined mainly to the interested parties. Even in the current economic situation. It’s not one that’s being played out in public.

Shutting the place down and throwing the town’s football club out on the street on the other hand, would be electoral suicide.

[hoolahoop]

The question of the financial sustainability for the KMS is an argument confined mainly to the interested parties. Even in the current economic situation. It’s not one that’s being played out in public.

Shutting the place down and throwing the town’s football club out on the street on the other hand, would be electoral suicide.

I couldn't agree with you more vaya, however the stadium fiasco should have been resolved some time ago. Why/who is dragging their heels on this thorny issue and for what purpose ?
It has left our Board with a lack of meaningful extra income and the SMC/EMC with an unsustainable debt, imo this could be partly the reason that some no longer want to stick around. To me it's a lose-lose now the Council have watched 2 of the fellas that might have been able to resolve this issue virtually ride into the sunset.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Ryan pretty much admitted any deal was uncertain.

It will happen, simple as that.