Tesco Drivers dispute

[Filo]

I must say, I`m very disappointed with the club for allowing scab drivers to park in the KM car parks, it`s alright appealing for the people of Doncaster to turn out and support the club, but how about the club support the working people of Doncaster in their fight to hold on to their jobs, not facilitate tesco and Stobarts attempts to break the strike and the union. Here`s me thinking we were a community club!

[MrFrost]

Filo, have you read some of the stories regarding the abuse the striking lorry drivers have been throwing at local residents for shopping at Tesco?

[silent majority]

Filo, isn't this more a case of the club doing what the Police ask (tell) them to do?

[Filo]

Filo, have you read some of the stories regarding the abuse the striking lorry drivers have been throwing at local residents for shopping at Tesco?

No person in Doncaster should use Tesco while this dispute is on going, Doncaster people are being thrown out of work, when the jobs are still there, they`re being given to Drivers from other parts of the country, it`s a disgrace and the club shouldn`t be seen to facilitate Tesco and Stobarts attempts to throw local people out of work, Doncaster has been shafted in the past, we should n`t let it happen again, every Tesco store should be picketed!

[Filo]

Filo, isn't this more a case of the club doing what the Police ask (tell) them to do?

The Police can request, but the club does n`t have to accommodate them, the car parks are private property, are they not? Scabs should not be accommodated!

[MrFrost]

Still, the club can say no can they not? The Police don't own the land!

[MrFrost]

Filo, have you read some of the stories regarding the abuse the striking lorry drivers have been throwing at local residents for shopping at Tesco?

No person in Doncaster should use Tesco while this dispute is on going, Doncaster people are being thrown out of work, when the jobs are still there, they`re being given to Drivers from other parts of the country, it`s a disgrace and the club shouldn`t be seen to facilitate Tesco and Stobarts attempts to throw local people out of work, Doncaster has been shafted in the past, we should n`t let it happen again, every Tesco store should be picketed!

If I want to shop at Tesco, that is my choice. My decision. I shouldn't have to endure abuse thrown at me for making that choice.

Read some comments on the local press sites and Facebook about the abuse shoppers have had from those protesting outside the Tesco in the town centre, people walking into the store with their children. Now that is a disgrace.

[Filo]

Filo, have you read some of the stories regarding the abuse the striking lorry drivers have been throwing at local residents for shopping at Tesco?

No person in Doncaster should use Tesco while this dispute is on going, Doncaster people are being thrown out of work, when the jobs are still there, they`re being given to Drivers from other parts of the country, it`s a disgrace and the club shouldn`t be seen to facilitate Tesco and Stobarts attempts to throw local people out of work, Doncaster has been shafted in the past, we should n`t let it happen again, every Tesco store should be picketed!

If I want to shop at Tesco, that is my choice. My decision. I shouldn't have to endure abuse thrown at me for making that choice.

Read some comments on the local press sites and Facebook about the abuse shoppers have had from those protesting outside the Tesco in the town centre, people walking into the store with their children. Now that is a disgrace.

It`s called Solidarity my friend, go to Asda or Sainsbury`s, a small price to pay to support your fellow Townsfolk in their efforts to save their jobs, the club should tell the Scab drivers to sling their hooks, I pay £100 a year to park there, yet the scabs park for free, the club should be showing some support to the local community!

[MrFrost]

Filo, have you read some of the stories regarding the abuse the striking lorry drivers have been throwing at local residents for shopping at Tesco?

No person in Doncaster should use Tesco while this dispute is on going, Doncaster people are being thrown out of work, when the jobs are still there, they`re being given to Drivers from other parts of the country, it`s a disgrace and the club shouldn`t be seen to facilitate Tesco and Stobarts attempts to throw local people out of work, Doncaster has been shafted in the past, we should n`t let it happen again, every Tesco store should be picketed!

If I want to shop at Tesco, that is my choice. My decision. I shouldn't have to endure abuse thrown at me for making that choice.

Read some comments on the local press sites and Facebook about the abuse shoppers have had from those protesting outside the Tesco in the town centre, people walking into the store with their children. Now that is a disgrace.

It`s called Solidarity my friend, go to Asda or Sainsbury`s, a small price to pay to support your fellow Townsfolk in their efforts to save their jobs, the club should tell the Scab drivers to sling their hooks, I pay £100 a year to park there, yet the scabs park for free, the club should be showing some support to the local community!

I agree about the car park situation. Unless they are paying a hefty sum to Rovers for the luxury.

I don't however agree with protestors abusing families who may not be fully aware of the situation.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I got abuse from some outside our Tesco also. Protest all they like but don't block the road at edenthorpe some of us just wanted to go home. Can someone summarise what's actually gone on with this dispute?  To me the actions of the picketers outside stores have been awful.  No doubt union activists some of them, those guys help nobody.

Rovers for me do the right thing trying to stay out of it and doing as police request.

[silent majority]

Still, the club can say no can they not? The Police don't own the land!

Yep, very true. But if you want to minimise your extortionate Police bill at the next few home games then maybe a little cooperation wouldn't go amiss.

[Jenny]

I got abuse from some outside our Tesco also. Protest all they like but don't block the road at edenthorpe some of us just wanted to go home. Can someone summarise what's actually gone on with this dispute?  To me the actions of the picketers outside stores have been awful.  No doubt union activists some of them, those guys help nobody.

Rovers for me do the right thing trying to stay out of it and doing as police request.

Tesco transferred the drivers contracts to Stobarts who immediately put the drivers on a 3 month redundancy consultation period. Most of them have received their statutory redundancy notices in the last few days.

Personally, I am all for the strikes and the protests, The way the drivers have been treated is disgusting.

You can clearly see who is right wing in this thread... as for saying keeping people out of it because they aren't aware of the situation, maybe that should apply to the posters too?!

[MrFrost]

I got abuse from some outside our Tesco also. Protest all they like but don't block the road at edenthorpe some of us just wanted to go home. Can someone summarise what's actually gone on with this dispute?  To me the actions of the picketers outside stores have been awful.  No doubt union activists some of them, those guys help nobody.

Rovers for me do the right thing trying to stay out of it and doing as police request.

Tesco transferred the drivers contracts to Stobarts who immediately put the drivers on a 3 month redundancy consultation period. Most of them have received their statutory redundancy notices in the last few days.

Personally, I am all for the strikes and the protests, The way the drivers have been treated is disgusting.

You can clearly see who is right wing in this thread... as for saying keeping people out of it because they aren't aware of the situation, maybe that should apply to the posters too?!

The thing is, once you start to abuse the general public, you lose the respect and support of those you're trying to win over. No need for it. Keep the protests peaceful.

[silent majority]

Jenny/all,

Don't bring politics into this thread otherwise I will move it to Off Topic. The only reason its here is how it affects the Rovers.

[Filo]

I got abuse from some outside our Tesco also. Protest all they like but don't block the road at edenthorpe some of us just wanted to go home. Can someone summarise what's actually gone on with this dispute?  To me the actions of the picketers outside stores have been awful.  No doubt union activists some of them, those guys help nobody.

Rovers for me do the right thing trying to stay out of it and doing as police request.

They have n`t stayed out of it, because they`ve let the scabs park there

[Filo]

Jenny/all,

Don't bring politics into this thread otherwise I will move it to Off Topic. The only reason its here is how it affects the Rovers.

Martin, you`re old enough to remember the miners strike and how the Doncaster area was shafted then, the same is happening here all be it on a smaller scale, the club and the VSC for that matter keep telling us about the work in the community, well this is a community issue affecting some people directly, the club could have just stayed neutral and just stated that they were n`t prepared to be drawn into the dispute and would not like the clubs property to be used by either party, instead they agreed to the request to let the scabs park there, thus they have involved themselves in the dispute

[Jenny]

Jenny/all,

Don't bring politics into this thread otherwise I will move it to Off Topic. The only reason its here is how it affects the Rovers.

I like how I am the only one named there - if its okay for one the VSC directors to take it off topic why can't we follow suit?

Moving the thread doesn't make it go away.

[Filo]

Still, the club can say no can they not? The Police don't own the land!

Yep, very true. But if you want to minimise your extortionate Police bill at the next few home games then maybe a little cooperation wouldn't go amiss.

Martin, I can`t believe that you might think that this will make any difference to the policing bill at future games

[RobTheRover]

Jenny, dont take it personally.  Its not a threat, just housekeeping.  We know some forum users come onto the main forum just for Rovers news, and something which goes in another direction should maybe be in Off Topic.

Lets see how this one goes.

[godlike1]

I got abuse from some outside our Tesco also. Protest all they like but don't block the road at edenthorpe some of us just wanted to go home. Can someone summarise what's actually gone on with this dispute?  To me the actions of the picketers outside stores have been awful.  No doubt union activists some of them, those guys help nobody.

Rovers for me do the right thing trying to stay out of it and doing as police request.

They have n`t stayed out of it, because they`ve let the scabs park there

Filo

will you stop calling those who more than likely have no choice but go to work because they cannot afford to go on strike.  Its nothing short of ignorant.

No i do not condone the actions of Tesco or Stobart but attacking others at the same level as yourselve for their actions is no way to get any respect from me or the public

[Jenny]

Most of the drivers have gone on strike - it will be the agency/existing stobarts staff who are still there...

As an insight to how Stobarts treat people, my uncle drives for an agency and has driven out of the Tesco Doncaster Depot with the said agency for some time now. He was called and asked if he would be willing to drive when they were striking a few weeks ago, and was basically told that if he would cross the picket, he would get work until March and if he wouldn't, then he would more than likely get nothing at all going forward. Nice underhand tactics again.

Its like 1984 again in my family.

[RobTheRover]

Its like 1984 again....

I hope its not, Jenny.  I dont have that BMX any more.

[AbsolutDRFC]

Its like 1984 again....

I hope its not, Jenny.  I dont have that BMX any more.

But did we get promoted in 1984!!!
So all wasn't bad.

[Filo]

I got abuse from some outside our Tesco also. Protest all they like but don't block the road at edenthorpe some of us just wanted to go home. Can someone summarise what's actually gone on with this dispute?  To me the actions of the picketers outside stores have been awful.  No doubt union activists some of them, those guys help nobody.

Rovers for me do the right thing trying to stay out of it and doing as police request.

They have n`t stayed out of it, because they`ve let the scabs park there

Filo

will you stop calling those who more than likely have no choice but go to work because they cannot afford to go on strike.  Its nothing short of ignorant.

No i do not condone the actions of Tesco or Stobart but attacking others at the same level as yourselve for their actions is no way to get any respect from me or the public

A scab is a scab, how else would you describe them?

[godlike1]

I got abuse from some outside our Tesco also. Protest all they like but don't block the road at edenthorpe some of us just wanted to go home. Can someone summarise what's actually gone on with this dispute?  To me the actions of the picketers outside stores have been awful.  No doubt union activists some of them, those guys help nobody.

Rovers for me do the right thing trying to stay out of it and doing as police request.

They have n`t stayed out of it, because they`ve let the scabs park there

Filo

will you stop calling those who more than likely have no choice but go to work because they cannot afford to go on strike.  Its nothing short of ignorant.

No i do not condone the actions of Tesco or Stobart but attacking others at the same level as yourselve for their actions is no way to get any respect from me or the public

A scab is a scab, how else would you describe them?

Well if that's the most intelligent answer you can come up with, then I will show you the same level of respect and ignorance you are showing others by stating your also a scab. That's right you are:

A hardend crust of blood and serum :-)

[graingrover]

thankyou Jenny for your objective analysis .Otherwise difficult forexpats to understand. i do now and support the drivers. If uk had signed the European Social contract all theses underhand machiavellic workings to sack people would never have been legal in UK .

[MrFrost]

thankyou Jenny for your objective analysis .Otherwise difficult forexpats to understand. i do now and support the drivers. If uk had signed the European Social contract all theses underhand machiavellic workings to sack people would never have been legal in UK .

It still doesn't excuse the behavior of those abusing the general public.

[IDM]

So the ones actually laying off local drives and bringing in outside drives are Stobarts, not Tesco?

Did Tesco know this before giving the work to Stobart, or for Tesco was this just a decision based on cost effectiveness (to them)? 

Someone somewhere has made a business decision that has a negative effect on some of Doncaster's population.  I have no issue with those affected, their neighbours and friends, protesting this decision in some way.  In the same light, I can understand that Tesco/Stobart have a business to run.

What will boycotting Tesco stores achieve? Will that not threaten the jobs of other Doncaster residents who work at Tesco?

By the way, I am in no way "right wing" nowhere near.  I don't necessarily agree with how Tesco/Stobart has gone about this, nor do I condone extreme protests.  Perhaps the protests should be directed at Stobart/Tesco head office, not the local stores where more folks get affected.

And for the term "scab", surely it is time to move on.  I find this term wholly offensive, even though I lived in Yorkshire during the miners' strike, and I supported the strikers. 

[graingrover]

In the absence of structured Union Power people will be reduced to taking ad hoc miltant action . That shouldn't be a surprise if you reflect on Universal social history available to all colours creeds and political persuasions if interested.

[Wellred]

Sorry IDM but I can't really believe you are so naive to believe what you just posted.
How on earth can the people who are being put on the dole by Tesco/Stobarts picket either of their head offices?
They are local people so they want to let local people try and affect the situation.
If everyone stopped shopping at every Tesco store in Doncaster for a week I guarantee every one of those drivers would be reinstated.