Benefits

[Dagenham Rover]

You really are a total idiot

I beg to differ. Do you really think that people should just live wherever they want to and expect the taxpayer to make this possible for them? I think we all know who the real idiot is.

Locals ....................lets turn everywhere into holiday homes

[mjdgreg]

In this case, what do you do?

There - question. Answer?

You dust yourself down and have another go. Many successful businessmen failed at first (not me of course).

[mjdgreg]

Locals ....................lets turn everywhere into holiday homes

Holiday homes is a problem, but subsidising locals with taxpayer's money is not the solution.

[Dagenham Rover]

and before you start, as Frosty says you know nothing about me or my lifestyle suffice to say I do not rent, I do not have a mortgage, I didn't inherit, I didn't win the lottery and I don't do drugs or rob or rely on the taxpayer but its always possible through circumstances beyond my control one day I might.

But I could slanted to the Left   

[MrFrost]

Yep send your other half out on a Betterware round and invest the profit in Goldmines   

Get in the real world mjdgreg, circumstances are individual whats works for me won't always work for you or anybody else

What's wrong with having a Betterware round? I'd rather have a Betterware round than be a drain on the taxpayer. Goldmines are only one small part of my investment portfolio. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Trust me. I know what I'm talking about.

Goldmines. I've heard it all now.
Mick - give me the name of one of your businesses.

[Dagenham Rover]

Yep send your other half out on a Betterware round and invest the profit in Goldmines   

Get in the real world mjdgreg, circumstances are individual whats works for me won't always work for you or anybody else

What's wrong with having a Betterware round? I'd rather have a Betterware round than be a drain on the taxpayer. Goldmines are only one small part of my investment portfolio. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Trust me. I know what I'm talking about.

Goldmines. I've heard it all now.
Mick - give me the name of one of your businesses.

He announced that one a couple of months ago,   too much Discovery channel

[RedJ]

In this case, what do you do?

There - question. Answer?

You dust yourself down and have another go. Many successful businessmen failed at first (not me of course).

Didn't think you would have somehow.

[jucyberry]

Ah sorry Mick, you don't get me with that one, I'm no incomer My mother's family have lived here since the 1770's aparently.

I don't choose to live here, it is where my family have lived for generations.

There is a big world outside of Doncaster you know, for such a high hitting entrepreneur your imagination seems to be tethered to a very small part of the world...

[mjdgreg]

Goldmines. I've heard it all now.
mjdgreg - give me the name of one of your businesses.

Regarding goldmines, that is not a business. It's just part of my investment portfolio. I have many thousands invested (modesty prevents me from saying how much) in the BlackRock Gold and Accumulation fund which has doubled in value over the last 5 years.

One of my businesses is known as Bookie Basher.

[mjdgreg]

Didn't think you would have somehow.

Well done for not saying 'would of'. My campaign is starting to show signs of success.

[Dagenham Rover]

hmnnn  this one
http://www.bookiebashers.co.uk/account-bet-results.html

23/11/12 - 30/11/12                 +3.76 pts profit
01/12/12 - 07/12/12                    -1.48 pts loss
08/12/12 - 14/12/12                   -3.24 pts loss
15/12/12 - 21/12/12                   -1.17pts loss


and I won't comment about the home page

[mjdgreg]

Ah sorry mjdgreg, you don't get me with that one, I'm no incomer My mother's family have lived here since the 1770's aparently.

I don't choose to live here, it is where my family have lived for generations.

There is a big world outside of Doncaster you know, for such a high hitting entrepreneur your imagination seems to be tethered to a very small part of the world...

I never assumed you were an incomer. It still doesn't make it right that you should expect to live in an area you can't afford and expect the taxpayer to make up the difference for you.

I am from a family of immigrants. Both of my parents didn't just move town,  they moved country because they couldn't afford to live where they were brought up any more.

Do you seriously think it is reasonable for the taxpayer to subsidise your cost of living? That's a very selfish outlook on life if you don't mind me saying.

[mjdgreg]

and I won't comment about the home page

That's not me. There are many businesses with a similar name. You won't find mine on the internet. I do it purely for myself and don't share the business model with anyone else. I like to stay under the radar.

[RedJ]

Didn't think you would have somehow.

Well done for not saying 'would of'. My campaign is starting to show signs of success.

Not particularly, since I've never said that and hate it myself, so you're kind of preaching to the choir.

[mjdgreg]

and before you start, as Frosty says you know nothing about me or my lifestyle suffice to say I do not rent, I do not have a mortgage, I didn't inherit, I didn't win the lottery and I don't do drugs or rob or rely on the taxpayer but its always possible through circumstances beyond my control one day I might.

But I could slanted to the Left   

You sound a lot like me. In your case as you have been sensible so far in your life I wouldn't begrudge you a bit of taxpayer support if you fell on hard times. I only have a problem with people that think they have a divine right to taxpayer's money and don't spare a second's thought for the poor buggers like me and you that have to provide it.

[MrFrost]

and I won't comment about the home page

That's not me. There are many businesses with a similar name. You won't find mine on the internet. I do it purely for myself and don't share the business model with anyone else. I like to stay under the radar.

Stop it. My sides are hurting.

[Dagenham Rover]

and before you start, as Frosty says you know nothing about me or my lifestyle suffice to say I do not rent, I do not have a mortgage, I didn't inherit, I didn't win the lottery and I don't do drugs or rob or rely on the taxpayer but its always possible through circumstances beyond my control one day I might.

But I could slanted to the Left   

You sound a lot like me. In your case as you have been sensible so far in your life I wouldn't begrudge you a bit of taxpayer support if you fell on hard times. I only have a problem with people that think they have a divine right to taxpayer's money and don't spare a second's thought for the poor buggers like me and you that have to provide it.

Trouble is Mick you seem to presume everybody on here or who is a lefty is a scrounger.

The bulk of people are not contrary to what various papers and tory governments say.
   I'm sure for every scrounger the Daily Mail finds in a town  or you know  there are 10 honest people whether they live on a council estate or not

[jucyberry]

Mick I have always paid my rent, I've always supported myself..
Life isn't always perfect and whilst I am ill yes I am now getting help. That will however stop once I am well again.

You really need to not fixate and stop and look at the much wider picture. No one begrudges you any success you might have, you could well be a nice chap away from the keyboard but you do yourself no favours on here at times.

I can understand tenacity, we I think are very much alike in wanting to get the last word in at all times, the difference is I don't spout a blinkered rhetoric angled deliberately to inflame peoples tempers.

[mjdgreg]

Trouble is mjdgreg you seem to presume everybody on here or who is a lefty is a scrounger.

The bulk of people are not contrary to what various papers and tory governments say.
   I'm sure for every scrounger the Daily Mail finds in a town  or you know  there are 10 honest people whether they live on a council estate or not

I've never said that everyone on here and all lefties are scroungers. I disagree vehemently with the leftie point of view but feel sorry for them as in my opinion they are very deluded. They let their hearts rule there heads and tend not to be able to see the wood for the trees.

I do feel that most lefties do feel a sense of entitlement to benefits and don't care too much where it comes from as long as they get it. I blame Labour for creating that sort of attitude, which of course they did in an effort to buy votes.

[jucyberry]

I am also passionately interested in the benefit system and how it affects the most vunerable in society especially in the area of mental health, an area that is really struggling at the moment with the government cuts to local funding..

[mjdgreg]

mjdgreg I have always paid my rent, I've always supported myself..
Life isn't always perfect and whilst I am ill yes I am now getting help. That will however stop once I am well again.

You really need to not fixate and stop and look at the much wider picture. No one begrudges you any success you might have, you could well be a nice chap away from the keyboard but you do yourself no favours on here at times.

I can understand tenacity, we I think are very much alike in wanting to get the last word in at all times, the difference is I don't sprout a blinkered rhetoric angled deliberately to inflame peoples tempers.

I am a big picture sort of person. I hope you get well soon and don't begrudge you support while you are ill. I don't intentionally try to inflame people's tempers, I just put my view across and if lefties don't like it then tough. I dislike people that beat about the bush and don't say what they really think for fear of offending others. If only there were more people like me in the world.

[mjdgreg]

I am also passionately interested in the benefit system and how it affects the most vunerable in society especially in the area of mental health, an area that is really struggling at the moment with the government cuts to local funding..

You sound like a very nice person (just like me). I too would spend more on the needy in society. Unfortunately because so much money is wasted on benefits that are not really needed by many people, and there isn't a bottomless pit of money, it is people like the mentally ill that suffer the consequences. Local government should cut some of the layers of management instead of front-line services.

[Filo]

Ah sorry mjdgreg, you don't get me with that one, I'm no incomer My mother's family have lived here since the 1770's aparently.

I don't choose to live here, it is where my family have lived for generations.

There is a big world outside of Doncaster you know, for such a high hitting entrepreneur your imagination seems to be tethered to a very small part of the world...

I never assumed you were an incomer. It still doesn't make it right that you should expect to live in an area you can't afford and expect the taxpayer to make up the difference for you.

I am from a family of immigrants. Both of my parents didn't just move town,  they moved country because they couldn't afford to live where they were brought up any more.

Do you seriously think it is reasonable for the taxpayer to subsidise your cost of living? That's a very selfish outlook on life if you don't mind me saying.

In one of your many other wind up threads, you slated the left for letting too many immigrants into this Country!


But then again, does Ireland really count?

[jucyberry]

A charming vintage poster circa 1938  comissioned by another party that went out of it's way to turn a nation against the vunerable...

A lesson perhaps for the resentful on this island.

https://twitter.com/suephoenix58/status/286360798777974785/photo/1.

[BobG]

He's another Michael Portillo.  Family comes here. Presumes on our generosity in even giving them breathing space. Use our air. And then has the effrontery to tell us all how we should be living our lives.

Big picture sort of fellow? I don't think so. No bigoted windbag who repeatedly displays the callousness and shallow, unthinking regurgitation that you do can ever claim to see any picture except his own narrow furrow. It's people like you that make me feel physically sick you know. I don't mind someone demonstrating with the odd fact and the odd logical argument that my views are shallow or plain wrong. But someone who just shouts louder and louder, ignores all requests to back up his wild statements with even a tiny jot of evidence and who is utterly impervious to even well argued and evidenced alternative interpretations deserves nothing but total contempt.

You have my contempt in Spades Mick.

Cheers

BobG

[mjdgreg]

So all you lefties think it's OK for the taxpayer to make up the difference for all those on benefits who are living in areas they can't afford to if the taxpayer didn't step in? Very thoughtful of you to pass on these kind of debts to future generations.

[Nudga]

Why do you never post on football related threads? Are you on the wrong forum and haven't quite grasped  it yet?

[mjdgreg]

Why do you never post on football related threads? Are you on the wrong forum and haven't quite grasped  it yet?

Because all my threads get locked for no good reason. There, I've answered your question. Will you answer mine?

[Nudga]

Why do you never post on football related threads? Are you on the wrong forum and haven't quite grasped  it yet?

Because all my threads get locked for no good reason. There, I've answered your question. Will you answer mine?

You didn't ask me a question.

[mjdgreg]

You didn't ask me a question.

Here it is again.

So all you lefties think it's OK for the taxpayer to make up the difference for all those on benefits who are living in areas they can't afford to if the taxpayer didn't step in? Very thoughtful of you to pass on these kind of debts to future generations.