Time for the Death Penalty for terrorists I`m afraid

[Jenny]

MF - You seriously think they'll ever get parole?

Filo - Depends doesn't it, it seems like they wanted to die, I imagine they would rather hang then spend their days in a cell.

Either way it just boils down to whether you agree in the death penalty.

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This guy from the EDL has some good points regarding the ideology's. He talks a lot of shite as well, but some of the statistics he quotes are correct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4AxfYF5L8

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They'd have no power to stop him entering the country, unless I'm mistaken, so yes...

Anyone recall how shocked the Nation was enoch powells predictions many many Moons ago.

Turns out mr powell was way beyond his time.

This edl Chap could be todays enoch powell?

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

I think the recent event in woolich might be turning the tide within the non extreme muslims tbh.

But i Dread what to think UK could be like in 30 or more years.

It seems that in general anything related to muslims is treated with kid glooves on as not to upset them Ffs.

The powers that be just about put a stop to the FV culture with some very strong armed policing,prison sentence passports to be handed in When national team play away,and the game is just about cleaned up.

Bout time powers that be used Much stronger tatics on extreme muslims and can start by chucking any preacher Of Such pratice into the slammer and fcuk his or hets freedom Of speech b*llocks.

What about are human rights to feal safe in our cities towns and streets?
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[not on facebook]

I wonder why cobra didn't convene when a Muslim man was brutally stabbed to death by a white man a few weeks ago in Birmingham?

For the record ...muslim... Is not a race as its an IDEA,
But the powers that be have turned that fact on Its head by giving out punishment for Been racist towards
The muslims.

Just part Of the fact that the powers are bending over backwards to Help the muslims wrong or right.

[Jenny]

You know sometimes when you just can't believe what you are reading....

[not on facebook]

You know sometimes when you just can't believe what you are reading....

It works both ways sometimes duck.

But i Will allways accept opinions Of others in most cases

[RedJ]

This guy from the EDL has some good points regarding the ideology's. He talks a lot of shite as well, but some of the statistics he quotes are correct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4AxfYF5L8

=1369336352]
They'd have no power to stop him entering the country, unless I'm mistaken, so yes...

Anyone recall how shocked the Nation was enoch powells predictions many many Moons ago.

Turns out mr powell was way beyond his time.

This edl Chap could be todays enoch powell?

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

I think the recent event in woolich might be turning the tide within the non extreme muslims tbh.

But i Dread what to think UK could be like in 30 or more years.

It seems that in general anything related to muslims is treated with kid glooves on as not to upset them Ffs.

The powers that be just about put a stop to the FV culture with some very strong armed policing,prison sentence passports to be handed in When national team play away,and the game is just about cleaned up.

Bout time powers that be used Much stronger tatics on extreme muslims and can start by chucking any preacher Of Such pratice into the slammer and fcuk his or hets freedom Of speech b*llocks.

What about are human rights to feal safe in our cities towns and streets?

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But even then we couldn't stop them being here if they're born British, and we can't stop them entering really if they're born EU, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make exactly.

But then we all welcome your well rounded approach to all things foreign, eh..

[not on facebook]

This guy from the EDL has some good points regarding the ideology's. He talks a lot of shite as well, but some of the statistics he quotes are correct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4AxfYF5L8

=1369336352]
They'd have no power to stop him entering the country, unless I'm mistaken, so yes...

Anyone recall how shocked the Nation was enoch powells predictions many many Moons ago.

Turns out mr powell was way beyond his time.

This edl Chap could be todays enoch powell?

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

I think the recent event in woolich might be turning the tide within the non extreme muslims tbh.

But i Dread what to think UK could be like in 30 or more years.

It seems that in general anything related to muslims is treated with kid glooves on as not to upset them Ffs.

The powers that be just about put a stop to the FV culture with some very strong armed policing,prison sentence passports to be handed in When national team play away,and the game is just about cleaned up.

Bout time powers that be used Much stronger tatics on extreme muslims and can start by chucking any preacher Of Such pratice into the slammer and fcuk his or hets freedom Of speech b*llocks.

What about are human rights to feal safe in our cities towns and streets?

But even then we couldn't stop them being here if they're born British, and we can't stop them entering really if they're born EU, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make exactly.

But then we all welcome your well rounded approach to all things foreign, eh..
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My point Been that the government needs to step up a few more gears to clamp down on the extreme muslims.

If you start from the top,say the pillocks that preach Their vile via Internett or street level or Even from the mosque,bang them up for life if needs be.

Then work Your way down the extreme network.

For sure my ideas come off back Of a beer mat after a few pints in me local,but Its the governments job to make our streets feal safe not mine,to which the government is not got right todate.

I dont want the normal muslims to be restricted just the extreme ones

[RedJ]

See now I know what the f**k you're on about you do have a good point.

But the problem is actually tracking them down, and actually stopping them. If they're broadcasting from abroad, we get into the realms of banning internet content. And who knows where that could stop if the government feel it's okay to do it to one group of people.

[not on facebook]

See now I know what the f*** you're on about you do have a good point.

But the problem is actually tracking them down, and actually stopping them. If they're broadcasting from abroad, we get into the realms of banning internet content. And who knows where that could stop if the government feel it's okay to do it to one group of people.

There needs to be lot more strict no fcuking about starting point on how our government copes with the extreme muslim issues.

Another point that edl Chap pointed out was that if somes were on the open market and muslims could not apply,they would be hell on from just about all corners.

As he points out Thou that due to muslim culture only muslims are allowed to work in Their Meat  trade,which is so wrong for sole fact if other way round There would be many many unhappy bunnys  and no fcuker is up in arms about it.

[nice one rovers]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

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Oslorovers, do you live in England?

No fella,but i used too for 30years

Strange question to Ask,as i dont effect me views

[nice one rovers]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

No fella,but i used too for 30years

Strange question to Ask,as i dont effect me views

Maybe it doesn't affect your views, but I think it affects your right to assert those views. You talk about what 'we", and "us",  should do with "our" country, when in all truth it's got nothing to do with you. Sort your own country out first.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

No he doesn't, it's the crappest point these racists spout and all the kneejerkers fall for it.

Did we expect the non-extreme Catholics to 'stand up to be counted' against the IRA, as if somehow it was their responsibility to control them?

Did we expect the people of Yorkshire to 'stand up and be counted' against the Yorkshire Ripper, as if it was somehow their responsibility to catch him?

Did we expect non-violent football supporters to 'stand up and be counted' against the hooligan problem as if it was somehow theior fault that it happened?

No we didn't, because it wasn't their responsibilty. At all. It was the repsonsibility of the authorities.

Yet the racists love to shove the blame back on the people they're prejudiced against, in order to further paint that community as different to ours. It's clever. And unfortunately it works.

[not on facebook]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

No fella,but i used too for 30years

Strange question to Ask,as i dont effect me views

Maybe it doesn't affect your views, but I think it affects your right to assert those views. You talk about what 'we", and "us",  should do with "our" country, when in all truth it's got nothing to do with you. Sort your own country out first.

England is  my country you fcuking plum

[not on facebook]

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

No he doesn't, it's the crappest point these racists spout and all the kneejerkers fall for it.

Did we expect the non-extreme Catholics to 'stand up to be counted' against the IRA, as if somehow it was their responsibility to control them?

Did we expect the people of Yorkshire to 'stand up and be counted' against the Yorkshire Ripper, as if it was somehow their responsibility to catch him?

Did we expect non-violent football supporters to 'stand up and be counted' against the hooligan problem as if it was somehow theior fault that it happened?

No we didn't, because it wasn't their responsibilty. At all. It was the repsonsibility of the authorities.

Yet the racists love to shove the blame back on the people they're prejudiced against, in order to further paint that community as different to ours. It's clever. And unfortunately it works.

Wake up and smell the coffee fella as the non extreme irish catholics Have walked the streets in protest against
The IRA When needs be all in the need for peace.

And Funny enough it helps and works

And for the record iam no racist

[Glyn_Wigley]

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

No he doesn't, it's the crappest point these racists spout and all the kneejerkers fall for it.

Did we expect the non-extreme Catholics to 'stand up to be counted' against the IRA, as if somehow it was their responsibility to control them?

Did we expect the people of Yorkshire to 'stand up and be counted' against the Yorkshire Ripper, as if it was somehow their responsibility to catch him?

Did we expect non-violent football supporters to 'stand up and be counted' against the hooligan problem as if it was somehow theior fault that it happened?

No we didn't, because it wasn't their responsibilty. At all. It was the repsonsibility of the authorities.

Yet the racists love to shove the blame back on the people they're prejudiced against, in order to further paint that community as different to ours. It's clever. And unfortunately it works.

Wake up and smell the coffee fella as the non extreme irish catholics Have walked the streets in protest against
The IRA When needs be all in the need for peace.

And Funny enough it helps and works

And for the record iam no racist

So what do you expect the Muslim community to do that they aren't already doing? Go on a walk?

[nice one rovers]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

No fella,but i used too for 30years

Strange question to Ask,as i dont effect me views

Maybe it doesn't affect your views, but I think it affects your right to assert those views. You talk about what 'we", and "us",  should do with "our" country, when in all truth it's got nothing to do with you. Sort your own country out first.

England is  my country you fcuking plum

Well! That's got to be the first time I've been insulted by a homesick ex-pat retired football hooligan. I take it fcuking plum is an insult.

[The Red Baron]

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

No he doesn't, it's the crappest point these racists spout and all the kneejerkers fall for it.

Did we expect the non-extreme Catholics to 'stand up to be counted' against the IRA, as if somehow it was their responsibility to control them?

Did we expect the people of Yorkshire to 'stand up and be counted' against the Yorkshire Ripper, as if it was somehow their responsibility to catch him?

Did we expect non-violent football supporters to 'stand up and be counted' against the hooligan problem as if it was somehow theior fault that it happened?

No we didn't, because it wasn't their responsibilty. At all. It was the repsonsibility of the authorities.

Yet the racists love to shove the blame back on the people they're prejudiced against, in order to further paint that community as different to ours. It's clever. And unfortunately it works.

Sorry, Glyn, I have to take issue with you here. Some very brave people within the Irish Catholic/ Nationalist community did take a stand against the IRA. People like Gerry Fitt and Austin Currie. Without them, people in the rest of the UK would have thought that the likes of Adams and McGuinness were the authentic voice of Irish catholics. Mind you, if we follow the logic of the "peace process" in Northern Ireland then in ten years time we'll be ruled by a government led by Nick Griffin with Anjum Chaudhry as his deputy- and every part of the country a no-go area for one side or the other.

[Sheepskin Stu]

The middle ground. Has anybody seen it?

[The Red Baron]

The death penalty. If you'd asked me 10 years ago I'd have said yes, definitely. Now, on balance, I'm against. I do think it's a powerful deterrent, but the people it would deter are not the people who (by and large) commit the worst crimes- serial killers, psycopaths, terrorists, paedophiles. They would murder anyway, and there's always the risk that you hang an innocent person.

Where I would disagree with current policy is that I think life should mean life. We can argue about which types of murder should lead to a whole-life sentence (and I'm open to debate about the idea of first and second degree murder), but the people who killed that soldier should be facing the rest of their life behind bars.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Has a very good point about the non extreme muslims
Not standing up to be counted against the extreme muslims.

No he doesn't, it's the crappest point these racists spout and all the kneejerkers fall for it.

Did we expect the non-extreme Catholics to 'stand up to be counted' against the IRA, as if somehow it was their responsibility to control them?

Did we expect the people of Yorkshire to 'stand up and be counted' against the Yorkshire Ripper, as if it was somehow their responsibility to catch him?

Did we expect non-violent football supporters to 'stand up and be counted' against the hooligan problem as if it was somehow theior fault that it happened?

No we didn't, because it wasn't their responsibilty. At all. It was the repsonsibility of the authorities.

Yet the racists love to shove the blame back on the people they're prejudiced against, in order to further paint that community as different to ours. It's clever. And unfortunately it works.

Sorry, Glyn, I have to take issue with you here. Some very brave people within the Irish Catholic/ Nationalist community did take a stand against the IRA. People like Gerry Fitt and Austin Currie. Without them, people in the rest of the UK would have thought that the likes of Adams and McGuinness were the authentic voice of Irish catholics. Mind you, if we follow the logic of the "peace process" in Northern Ireland then in ten years time we'll be ruled by a government led by Nick Griffin with Anjum Chaudhry as his deputy- and every part of the country a no-go area for one side or the other.

Yes, I agree some. And yes they were brave, being under threat of fatal reprisals. However, that's individuals, not the whole community. But the point I was making was that nobody expected the whole Nationalist community to somehow be able to control the terrorists.

I've yet to hear the EDL demand that just some of the Islamic community do something. No, they expect the whole community to somehow do something (what, they never actually say - surprise, surprise).

[not on facebook]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

No fella,but i used too for 30years

Strange question to Ask,as i dont effect me views

Maybe it doesn't affect your views, but I think it affects your right to assert those views. You talk about what 'we", and "us",  should do with "our" country, when in all truth it's got nothing to do with you. Sort your own country out first.

England is  my country you fcuking plum

Well! That's got to be the first time I've been insulted by a homesick ex-pat retired football hooligan. I take it fcuking plum is an insult.

I was put on my back foot,to which i came back fella.

You can take it what ever way you feal

Now iam a tad plumish...homesick you said...my
Arsè

[nice one rovers]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

No fella,but i used too for 30years

Strange question to Ask,as i dont effect me views

Maybe it doesn't affect your views, but I think it affects your right to assert those views. You talk about what 'we", and "us",  should do with "our" country, when in all truth it's got nothing to do with you. Sort your own country out first.

England is  my country you fcuking plum

Well! That's got to be the first time I've been insulted by a homesick ex-pat retired football hooligan. I take it fcuking plum is an insult.

I was put on my back foot,to which i came back fella.

You can take it what ever way you feal

Now iam a tad plumish...homesick you said...my
Arsè

I sorry, I don't understand a word you're saying.

[scaley back rover]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

i didnt for 15 years but yet i gave worn my union flag on my arm every day at work . A persons homeland is a persons homeland. So in my book is more than entitled rightly or wrongly to their view.

One thing that has been proved by the tragic actions of wednesday is that it will divide everyone in many ways on how we deal with it and what action should and should have been taken. Anyone else get the feeling thats what these pricks wanted.Even on a football forum it has us divided and we all share a common goal with our club yet we are argueing about it . Thats what this shit does divides everyone.

[not on facebook]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

i didnt for 15 years but yet i gave worn my union flag on my arm every day at work . A persons homeland is a persons homeland. So in my book is more than entitled rightly or wrongly to their view.

One thing that has been proved by the tragic actions of wednesday is that it will divide everyone in many ways on how we deal with it and what action should and should have been taken. Anyone else get the feeling thats what these pricks wanted.Even on a football forum it has us divided and we all share a common goal with our club yet we are argueing about it . Thats what this shit does divides everyone.

I dont feal as Thou iam having an argument,just trying to stand my ground on what i think,as others find it hard to live with my views.

Its not what happens in my life time that really worrys me,but iam shit scared for my kids life time and any off spring they knock out.that scares me to death tbh how britian,europe Will be in 30,40 or more years.

Just look at sweden Now with gangs Of immirgrants causing havoc setting fire to schools,cars all because Of the gap in the social way Of living.

Fcuk me they land in sweden,live off the benafit system with no real lust for work are up in arms because they dont have a good wedge in back pockets.

Sweden as bent over backwards to accomadte different
Cultures from africa and eastern europe,but the swedish have Stuck Their heads in the sand and Now
Are asking  why?

Far too many cultures from out Of sweden all plotted up in the same parts Of cities,Hence a type Of getto syndrome.

Same is going to happen downtown Oslo way things look.

One major problem is that you Get a good payment Of Norwegian Kr each month for each kid you have,which is meant to Help send the kids to day schools.

Here the kids can pick up the Norwegian lanuage,but that dont as the african parents keep the kids at home,Then send them to school at age Of 6 When Its free and the kids have no idea Of the norsk lanuage,Hence holding other more forward norsk speaking Norwegians back in class.

Which in turn brings in ...white flight....where whites move out Of the city into outside areas and more immirgrants are housed in vaccant housing.

Me and the wife did This two years ago as we did not want are kids going to the local school in Oslo which was back Then hitting over 35 per cent non norsk,and it was and still id having social problems left right and centre.

[scaley back rover]

oslo dont get me wrong some of your views i agree with on this and some i dont . I think any sane person can see that all that has happened this week and previously will have a detrimental effect on this country . How much and how far it will go no one knows but it wont be a happy outcome if it continues thats for sure. tit for tat all over the place is my guess. I think that its a good thing that even though you dont live in uk anymore that you are still concerned about whats happening , as i said justbecause you dont live here now shouldnt mean that shouldnt be concerned

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Fcuk me some terrorist Police officer has Been stabbed in the neck in Paris tonight.

They are looking for an north african man wearing
The bog standard muslim clothing,with a Beard too.

This as got to be a knock on from woolich?

The real or proper muslims  must be thinking WTF.

There is going to be many more tears i fear.

[scaley back rover]

not good not good at all

[Orlandokarla]

Oslorovers, do you live in England?

No fella,but i used too for 30years

Strange question to Ask,as i dont effect me views

Maybe it doesn't affect your views, but I think it affects your right to assert those views. You talk about what 'we", and "us",  should do with "our" country, when in all truth it's got nothing to do with you. Sort your own country out first.

Nice one rovers, kindly re-read your post.

Now, do I really need to explain why that comment is not only incredibly ignorant, but also offensive to those of us whom do not currently reside in the UK?

[The L J Monk]

I think the point being made is that although they might garner some insight from the media - with the associated bias - how can someone who does not live in the UK, and has not done so for some time, have a particularly up to date picture of the state of UK society.