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Quote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:04:21 amEveryone? or just the VSC luddites.I resent that remark Wellred. Thoroughly underserved, especially when you're talking about people you don't even know.We would all embrace change as much as the next person - look at our relationship with the new CEO!You can start name calling all you want, it doesn't make your argument for selling our club to an unknown buyer, because 1/3 of the board want to, any stronger.
Everyone? or just the VSC luddites.
Quote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:24:36 amI am as much likely to hand them the keys for a promise of a day in the sun as you and your cronies seem hell bent on stopping it.Do you think Pompey fans have enjoyed their ride recently? Or Coventry fans? I'm afraid there's no arguing with fans who would risk our club in such a way for one shot at the premiership (did anyone tell you promotion isn't guaranteed by the way?)
I am as much likely to hand them the keys for a promise of a day in the sun as you and your cronies seem hell bent on stopping it.
Quote from: bobjimwilly on August 17, 2013, 10:29:15 amQuote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:24:36 amI am as much likely to hand them the keys for a promise of a day in the sun as you and your cronies seem hell bent on stopping it.Do you think Pompey fans have enjoyed their ride recently? Or Coventry fans? I'm afraid there's no arguing with fans who would risk our club in such a way for one shot at the premiership (did anyone tell you promotion isn't guaranteed by the way?)Do you think Cardiff fans have enjoyed their ride recently?
Quote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:32:41 amQuote from: bobjimwilly on August 17, 2013, 10:29:15 amQuote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:24:36 amI am as much likely to hand them the keys for a promise of a day in the sun as you and your cronies seem hell bent on stopping it.Do you think Pompey fans have enjoyed their ride recently? Or Coventry fans? I'm afraid there's no arguing with fans who would risk our club in such a way for one shot at the premiership (did anyone tell you promotion isn't guaranteed by the way?)Do you think Cardiff fans have enjoyed their ride recently?Will they still enjoy it when the money disappears?
Will Southampton as well?What will happen to Doncaster Rovers if TB and DW decide to pull out?So now you are not only a vsc director but Mystic Meg as well?
Quote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:38:45 amWill Southampton as well?What will happen to Doncaster Rovers if TB and DW decide to pull out?So now you are not only a vsc director but Mystic Meg as well?Of course I'm not Mystic Meg. Neither are you. Neither is JR. The future is not pre-determined, it's fashioned by our actions and the best we can do to shape the future is to have actions designed to shape that future as best we wish. You don't do that by handing your future to someone you don't know lock, stock and barrel. If you want to live your life as a member of the Dangerous Sports Club that's up to you, but don't drag DRFC along with you.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 17, 2013, 10:44:33 amQuote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:38:45 amWill Southampton as well?What will happen to Doncaster Rovers if TB and DW decide to pull out?So now you are not only a vsc director but Mystic Meg as well?Of course I'm not Mystic Meg. Neither are you. Neither is JR. The future is not pre-determined, it's fashioned by our actions and the best we can do to shape the future is to have actions designed to shape that future as best we wish. You don't do that by handing your future to someone you don't know lock, stock and barrel. If you want to live your life as a member of the Dangerous Sports Club that's up to you, but don't drag DRFC along with you.And on the other hand. If you want to stay stuck in the mud don't expect many DRFC fans to jump in with you.
AS for TB and DW, they have proved all the time they have been involved in the club that they have the best interests of the club at heart, and should they decided to leave, I would expect them to do so in accordance with that. I have that confidence because we know TB and DW and how they conduct themselves.
Quote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:46:56 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 17, 2013, 10:44:33 amQuote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:38:45 amWill Southampton as well?What will happen to Doncaster Rovers if TB and DW decide to pull out?So now you are not only a vsc director but Mystic Meg as well?Of course I'm not Mystic Meg. Neither are you. Neither is JR. The future is not pre-determined, it's fashioned by our actions and the best we can do to shape the future is to have actions designed to shape that future as best we wish. You don't do that by handing your future to someone you don't know lock, stock and barrel. If you want to live your life as a member of the Dangerous Sports Club that's up to you, but don't drag DRFC along with you.And on the other hand. If you want to stay stuck in the mud don't expect many DRFC fans to jump in with you.Where have any of us said that we don't want investment in the club? Go on, tell me.
Quote from: River Don on August 17, 2013, 10:19:36 amWhy do we know so little about them? Why the secrecy?It wasn't the case when JR took over. It wasn't the case when he brought the KM2 on board.It was secret until it happened!!Companies don't negotiate via the press or fans forums in the real world.
Why do we know so little about them? Why the secrecy?It wasn't the case when JR took over. It wasn't the case when he brought the KM2 on board.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 17, 2013, 10:50:26 amQuote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:46:56 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 17, 2013, 10:44:33 amQuote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 10:38:45 amWill Southampton as well?What will happen to Doncaster Rovers if TB and DW decide to pull out?So now you are not only a vsc director but Mystic Meg as well?Of course I'm not Mystic Meg. Neither are you. Neither is JR. The future is not pre-determined, it's fashioned by our actions and the best we can do to shape the future is to have actions designed to shape that future as best we wish. You don't do that by handing your future to someone you don't know lock, stock and barrel. If you want to live your life as a member of the Dangerous Sports Club that's up to you, but don't drag DRFC along with you.And on the other hand. If you want to stay stuck in the mud don't expect many DRFC fans to jump in with you.Where have any of us said that we don't want investment in the club? Go on, tell me. Nobody has ever said they don't want investment in the club. Some however have a very blinkered view on WHO they want to invest in the club!
I'd trust John Ryan far more than terry bramall when it came down to doing the best thing for the club. Shouldn't even be a discussion
Quote from: dickos1 on August 17, 2013, 11:09:52 amI'd trust John Ryan far more than terry bramall when it came down to doing the best thing for the club. Shouldn't even be a discussion But JR is proposing to sell up. The question is do you trust the status quo or a group of people we don't know and are preventing speculation as to their identity?
Quote from: River Don on August 17, 2013, 11:15:29 amQuote from: dickos1 on August 17, 2013, 11:09:52 amI'd trust John Ryan far more than terry bramall when it came down to doing the best thing for the club. Shouldn't even be a discussion But JR is proposing to sell up. The question is do you trust the status quo or a group of people we don't know and are preventing speculation as to their identity?Again is that 100% accurate or guesswork based on rumours and half truths?I cannot understand why you think it is so important for a potential new investor to reveal everything to a bunch of fans.
Quote from: Wellred on August 17, 2013, 11:21:51 amQuote from: River Don on August 17, 2013, 11:15:29 amQuote from: dickos1 on August 17, 2013, 11:09:52 amI'd trust John Ryan far more than terry bramall when it came down to doing the best thing for the club. Shouldn't even be a discussion But JR is proposing to sell up. The question is do you trust the status quo or a group of people we don't know and are preventing speculation as to their identity?Again is that 100% accurate or guesswork based on rumours and half truths?I cannot understand why you think it is so important for a potential new investor to reveal everything to a bunch of fans.That is 100% accurate according to what John Ryan and SC are telling us.
"What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It’s the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city. It’s a small boy clambering up stadium steps for the very first time, gripping his father’s hand, gawping at that hallowed stretch of turf beneath him and, without being able to do a thing about it, falling in love."
Can we see proof of the supposed legal action threat?