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MrFrost

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« on January 16, 2014, 11:02:51 pm by MrFrost »
The latest airline to cease flights from Doncaster airport.

Had a lot of promise but seems the place is a huge white elephant.




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podrover73

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« Reply #1 on January 17, 2014, 01:42:10 am by podrover73 »
The latest airline to cease flights from Doncaster airport.

Had a lot of promise but seems the place is a huge white elephant.where is the news regarding this,  enjoyed the flights from Donny to Tenerife


The latest airline to cease flights from Doncaster airport.

Had a lot of promise but seems the place is a huge white elephant.



Wild Rover

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« Reply #2 on January 17, 2014, 02:09:27 pm by Wild Rover »
Where the hell did they fly to. Tenerife ( sth) so hardly surprising they stopped.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2014, 02:12:52 pm by Wild Rover »

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« Reply #3 on January 17, 2014, 02:29:25 pm by jonnydog »
Aye, it says tenerife, but it actually landed Gran Canaria :lol:

MrFrost

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« Reply #4 on January 17, 2014, 03:22:10 pm by MrFrost »
And flights to Girona. Thomson have also cut a number of flights from this summer.
A shame, as if the airport had worked, it would have been an asset to the local area. Sadly, it seems, at the moment destined to close.

Wild Rover

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« Reply #5 on January 17, 2014, 03:27:29 pm by Wild Rover »
Landing charges / Ground service charges too high at RHS airport.  Half as much again as LBA , Manc, EM.

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« Reply #6 on January 17, 2014, 03:30:36 pm by DaveDRFC »
Bit of a setback but I still don't think it will shut, Humberside has far less flights but still remains open. I thought the link road to the M18 had been given the go ahead, they aren't going to do that if it's looking likely to close. Always enjoyed flying from there, even though East Midlands is probably slightly more convenient for me.

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« Reply #7 on January 17, 2014, 03:36:58 pm by godlike1 »
They've started the link road, although for some bizzare reason it is not dual carriage way the whole way.

It will cut the journey time down a lot though

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« Reply #8 on January 17, 2014, 03:48:59 pm by MrFrost »
The link road actually isn't specifically for the airport, it is to improve access for Rossington, it will actually end at Parrots corner so won't continue all the way to the airport.

Fact is, airlines aren't interested in flying from Doncaster.
Many people believe Peel, the owners only wanted to get their hands on the land so they could develop housing and other commerical facilities. They certainly aren't making any money from the airport itself, last figures I saw quoted is that it was losing £3 million a month

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« Reply #9 on January 17, 2014, 04:17:13 pm by podrover73 »
Quote from: Wild Rover link=topic=244445.msg412982#msg412982 date=138996776no 7
Where the hell did they fly to. Tenerife ( sth) so hardly surprising they stopped.
yes it flew to Tenerife South which is the closest airport to Las Americas, don't  understand your gripe

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« Reply #10 on January 17, 2014, 04:21:19 pm by auckleyflyer »
Ryanair fly to Tenerife south, Gerona and allecanti?? (spell check). To the doom and gloom merchants its just for this summer their back in winter and next summer as normal. Just a plane shortage and new routes at stanstead!
We will be recompensed for it and expect more routes next summer for our flexability!
Back your own!

Wild Rover

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« Reply #11 on January 17, 2014, 04:24:32 pm by Wild Rover »
So, its a gripe is it?. As far as I can see on Ryanair website that's the only destination, now is that a commercial hub? or holiday type area, if the latter, how many of the 130( or so ) seats were filled on each flight?. Most folk going would travel with the likes of Thompson / Jet2 / etc. So hardly surprising they pulled route.

podrover73

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« Reply #12 on January 17, 2014, 07:56:46 pm by podrover73 »
So, its a gripe is it?. As far as I can see on Ryanair website that's the only destination, now is that a commercial hub? or holiday type area, if the latter, how many of the 130( or so ) seats were filled on each flight?. Most folk going would travel with the likes of Thompson / Jet2 / etc. So hardly surprising they pulled route.

Yes it is the biggest area on Tenerife for holidaymakers as it encompasses Playa De Las Americas , the largets resort on the island , so Ryanair do fly to the most convenient airport on the island.

The seats may not always be filled on these flights because:

A) Like you, people don't think they fly to the best airport for the best resorts  , which is wrong

B) The taxes at Doncaster are far too high compared with other regional Airports..

Now I don't know who sets the taxes at the Airports but I believe that may be the main reason people choose other airports for their holiday.

 


Wild Rover

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« Reply #13 on January 20, 2014, 10:57:52 am by Wild Rover »
There are only so many holiday makers per annum in the Doncaster Area, most will tend to go during school holidays or works shut downs, and guess these folk will travel Saturday or Sunday, and return 7 or 14 days later. Add to that most will fly with a tour operator ( Thompson, Jet2 and the like ), so the chances of a scheduled flight from Ryanair being full are very remote. Hence my statement that "Its not surprising the service pulled".

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« Reply #14 on January 20, 2014, 11:09:35 am by Yargo »
Whats the worry,Rovers are going to be taken over and lots of people from Ireland are going to be flying in here :chair:

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« Reply #15 on January 20, 2014, 01:07:29 pm by RobTheRover »
I understand planning permission has been granted for a dedicated freight terminal months ago.  No doubt with the new link road going in and easy access to the M18, A1M, M1 and M62 an increase in freight traffic becomes massively viable.  From landing to being on the road in a matter of hours.

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« Reply #16 on January 20, 2014, 11:30:03 pm by Mike_F »
Frosty, you've been saying this stuff for years. What's your problem with the airport?!

MrFrost

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« Reply #17 on January 20, 2014, 11:47:41 pm by MrFrost »
Frosty, you've been saying this stuff for years. What's your problem with the airport?!

The problem is, it should never have been built. Do a little research of the owners Peel, their history with airports, and the situation at DSA the moment.

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« Reply #18 on January 21, 2014, 02:42:48 pm by bobjimwilly »
I for one am glad it was built. Flew from there a couple of times. The last time was a stag do to Amsterdam. Was very convenient for us - Thorne to Amsterdam in the space of 3 hours. Let's hope it stays open and more flights return soon  :clapping:

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« Reply #19 on January 21, 2014, 04:58:13 pm by MrFrost »
I for one am glad it was built. Flew from there a couple of times. The last time was a stag do to Amsterdam. Was very convenient for us - Thorne to Amsterdam in the space of 3 hours. Let's hope it stays open and more flights return soon  :clapping:

They haven't flown to Amsterdam for years now.
There was never a need for the airport to be built. Many aviation experts predicted after the first few years, the number of flights and passengers would decline, which they are on a huge scale, while other local airports such as Leeds, Humberside and East Midlands are actually growing, two of them on a large scale.

Like I said, there's a lot of info on the owners Peel, their history with airports and likely future of their current airports available online.

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« Reply #20 on January 21, 2014, 05:21:08 pm by Muttley »
other local airports such as Leeds, Humberside and East Midlands are actually growing, two of them on a large scale.


Which ones are growing?

CAA figures state that for 2012 v 2011 East Midlands dropped 3.3%, Leeds grew by 0.5% and Humberside dropped 14.7% (Doncaster dropped 15.7%)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busiest_airports_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_total_passenger_traffic

I don't really understand your personal beef with it - it's there, use it if you want, or don't - the choice is yours.

In my opinion it's never going to really take-off* until it gets a direct link into a major hub such as Amsterdam, Paris, Frankfurt. However it seems that the powers that be are intent on expanding Heathrow or Gatwick and forcing everyone to travel hundreds of miles to start their journeys, rather than promoting the use of local airports.





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MrFrost

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« Reply #21 on January 21, 2014, 05:37:00 pm by MrFrost »
other local airports such as Leeds, Humberside and East Midlands are actually growing, two of them on a large scale.


In terms of route's offered, others are growing.
There is no need for DSA, and that is the opinion of aviation experts, and clearly the airline's, as it continue's to lose flights.

If it does continue to operate, it will be as it is now, a few holiday flights to Spain and a few route's to Poland. The business market will never be served.

Which ones are growing?

CAA figures state that for 2012 v 2011 East Midlands dropped 3.3%, Leeds grew by 0.5% and Humberside dropped 14.7% (Doncaster dropped 15.7%)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busiest_airports_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_total_passenger_traffic

I don't really understand your personal beef with it - it's there, use it if you want, or don't - the choice is yours.

In my opinion it's never going to really take-off* until it gets a direct link into a major hub such as Amsterdam, Paris, Frankfurt. However it seems that the powers that be are intent on expanding Heathrow or Gatwick and forcing everyone to travel hundreds of miles to start their journeys, rather than promoting the use of local airports.





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Muttley

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« Reply #22 on January 21, 2014, 07:02:31 pm by Muttley »
Routes are irrelevant - you can add as many routes as you like, if they don't get used then the airlines will pull the service.

SOme interesting info HERE on how aviation has changed over the last 100 years - in 1914 there were 1,200 air tickets sold, by 2013 it was 2,945,448,937 ie nearly 3 billion.

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« Reply #23 on January 21, 2014, 07:13:55 pm by Gemmadrfc »
The airport is too expensive. It's putting people off including me last year it only cost my family £500 for flights. We checked again for this September over a grand, checked East Midlands and bam £500. We will not be using the airport again I'm afraid!

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« Reply #24 on January 21, 2014, 08:58:58 pm by Filo »
The Airport has the Red Arrows parked up overnight due to RAF Scampton being fog bound today

MrFrost

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« Reply #25 on January 21, 2014, 11:22:12 pm by MrFrost »
Routes are irrelevant - you can add as many routes as you like, if they don't get used then the airlines will pull the service.

SOme interesting info HERE on how aviation has changed over the last 100 years - in 1914 there were 1,200 air tickets sold, by 2013 it was 2,945,448,937 ie nearly 3 billion.

You're first point is exactly what is happening at Doncaster. Flights are being pulled because people won't use them.

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« Reply #26 on January 21, 2014, 11:23:17 pm by DaveDRFC »
Not strictly on topic, but tonight I got to work (on the Business Park where Sheffield Airport used to be), waiting for the car park barriers to go up and some distraught Polish guy came running up to me, looking for Sheffield Airport as he was late for his flight. I felt pretty bad telling him that Sheffield Airport is actually near Doncaster and he was about 40 minutes drive from it. I've got a feeling he probably didn't make his plane.

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« Reply #27 on January 21, 2014, 11:39:09 pm by MrFrost »
Not strictly on topic, but tonight I got to work (on the Business Park where Sheffield Airport used to be), waiting for the car park barriers to go up and some distraught Polish guy came running up to me, looking for Sheffield Airport as he was late for his flight. I felt pretty bad telling him that Sheffield Airport is actually near Doncaster and he was about 40 minutes drive from it. I've got a feeling he probably didn't make his plane.

There's still sign posts in Sheffield for Sheffield City Airport, so if he was following them, it's hardly a surprise!

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« Reply #28 on January 22, 2014, 08:19:29 am by RedRover45 »
Not strictly on topic, but tonight I got to work (on the Business Park where Sheffield Airport used to be), waiting for the car park barriers to go up and some distraught Polish guy came running up to me, looking for Sheffield Airport as he was late for his flight. I felt pretty bad telling him that Sheffield Airport is actually near Doncaster and he was about 40 minutes drive from it. I've got a feeling he probably didn't make his plane.

There's still sign posts in Sheffield for Sheffield City Airport, so if he was following them, it's hardly a surprise!

As far as I know, unless its changed, the police helicopter Sierra Yankee 99 is still based at Sheffield City Airport ?

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« Reply #29 on January 22, 2014, 09:03:18 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Mr frost the issue isn't loads they're pretty good the issue is the lack of flights at the moment - they've tended to do well pretty much always.

The flights will come for sure when the new road is complete. Equally it's not all about flights there will be a huge business in other aviation activity that's for sure.

 

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