Singing section

[ravenrover]

How did the singing go last night, again I never heard anything from our singing section, heard the Watford fans and the odd chant from the South Stand. Is there something seriously wrong with the acoustics in the stadium? I'm all for the singers getting together in one area, but I think that end of the West Stand for whatever reason is not working the noise the singers make is being drowned out by the away fans. At least that's how it appears and sounds from my seat in the West Stand

I made the same point after Saturday never heard a peep

[silent majority]

I tell you one thing they'd never be told to go into the away end and tell them what to do and sit down and be quiet. It really is pathetic. Then again wouldn't want to ruin our 'family club' image.

Did we go in the home end and tell them to sit down and be

I witnessed part of it. They weren't, and they were checking all tickets as people went up, regardless of whether they had just come down or not.
Now, I'll be diplomatic, but the chant "are you watching Shaun Lockwood" is really good advice, particularly given the stewards were at odds with the club policy.

Apparently the stewards were acting under instruction from the club.

And I would suggest the club were acting under instructions from the Police.

[RedRover45]

I tell you one thing they'd never be told to go into the away end and tell them what to do and sit down and be quiet. It really is pathetic. Then again wouldn't want to ruin our 'family club' image.

Did we go in the home end and tell them to sit down and be

I witnessed part of it. They weren't, and they were checking all tickets as people went up, regardless of whether they had just come down or not.
Now, I'll be diplomatic, but the chant "are you watching Shaun Lockwood" is really good advice, particularly given the stewards were at odds with the club policy.

Apparently the stewards were acting under instruction from the club.

And I would suggest the club were acting under instructions from the Police.

What police ? I didn't see any last night. Was it not a non-police fixture. If it wasn't, it certainly should have been.

[Bentley Bullet]

Well they make enough noise to be heard by the away fans,  judging by their reactions, and the players seem to respond to it, so I suppose it's having the right effect. Maybe if you got closer to them, or better still joined them, you wouldn't miss out.

[River Don]

I tell you one thing they'd never be told to go into the away end and tell them what to do and sit down and be quiet. It really is pathetic. Then again wouldn't want to ruin our 'family club' image.

Did we go in the home end and tell them to sit down and be

I witnessed part of it. They weren't, and they were checking all tickets as people went up, regardless of whether they had just come down or not.
Now, I'll be diplomatic, but the chant "are you watching Shaun Lockwood" is really good advice, particularly given the stewards were at odds with the club policy.

Apparently the stewards were acting under instruction from the club.

And I would suggest the club were acting under instructions from the Police.

The Police probably wouldn't be so concerned if the singing section wasn't quite so close to the away fans.

It'd be a shame if the singing section is stopped before it gets going because it's not situated in the ideal position.

[IDM]

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What police ? I didn't see any last night. Was it not a non-police fixture. If it wasn't, it certainly should have been.

Maybe the reasons why some fixtures are "non-police" is because the stewards take on some of those responsibilities, on instructions from the police received before the games?

[silent majority]

I tell you one thing they'd never be told to go into the away end and tell them what to do and sit down and be quiet. It really is pathetic. Then again wouldn't want to ruin our 'family club' image.

Did we go in the home end and tell them to sit down and be

I witnessed part of it. They weren't, and they were checking all tickets as people went up, regardless of whether they had just come down or not.
Now, I'll be diplomatic, but the chant "are you watching Shaun Lockwood" is really good advice, particularly given the stewards were at odds with the club policy.

Apparently the stewards were acting under instruction from the club.

And I would suggest the club were acting under instructions from the Police.

What police ? I didn't see any last night. Was it not a non-police fixture. If it wasn't, it certainly should have been.

Do the Police have to be present to issue instructions? Even at Police free games pre-match meetings will have a Police presence. It's at those meetings the decisions are taken and instruction given to the club.

[MrFrost]

So SM, has the singing section in that part of the stadium now been scrapped? As that's what people were being told by the stewards last night.

It's a shambles, and no wonder people can't be arsed to go to games at the Keepmoat any more. Another good idea that has fallen flat on its face because those with power can't or won't get behind it with any true enthusiasm.

We might as well make it compulsory to sit for the entire game, not sing, have no atmosphere, after all, it all goes against the "family club" image.

[Filo]

So SM, has the singing section in that part of the stadium now been scrapped? As that's what people were being told by the stewards last night.

It's a shambles, and no wonder people can't be arsed to go to games at the Keepmoat any more. Another good idea that has fallen flat on its face because those with power can't or won't get behind it with any true enthusiasm.

We might as well make it compulsory to sit for the entire game, not sing, have no atmosphere, after all, it all goes against the "family club" image.

I think you should be aiming that question at the person who liaised with the club in the first place regarding the singing section and then promoted it, I would have thought he's the one that should be following up the issues raised

[MrFrost]

Who would that be?
Whatever, anyway, it seems we are now back to square one with any kind of singing section, its one step forward and two steps back. And then people wonder why attendances are dwindling.....

[normal rules]

i think you will find there is a police presence at every game, you just don't see them if they are in the ground control room

[bpoolrover]

Don't call it a singing section then just all arrange to meet there

[Filo]

Don't call it a singing section then just all arrange to meet there

Call that area of the ground unofficially the Choir and then you could have a firm called the Choirboys

[silent majority]

So SM, has the singing section in that part of the stadium now been scrapped? As that's what people were being told by the stewards last night.

It's a shambles, and no wonder people can't be arsed to go to games at the Keepmoat any more. Another good idea that has fallen flat on its face because those with power can't or won't get behind it with any true enthusiasm.

We might as well make it compulsory to sit for the entire game, not sing, have no atmosphere, after all, it all goes against the "family club" image.

Why are you asking me? I was just speculating that it would be a Police decision if anybody's. You need to read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

And who are you referring too exactly when you talk about those with the power who won't or can't get behind this?

[MrFrost]

So SM, has the singing section in that part of the stadium now been scrapped? As that's what people were being told by the stewards last night.

It's a shambles, and no wonder people can't be arsed to go to games at the Keepmoat any more. Another good idea that has fallen flat on its face because those with power can't or won't get behind it with any true enthusiasm.

We might as well make it compulsory to sit for the entire game, not sing, have no atmosphere, after all, it all goes against the "family club" image.

Why are you asking me? I was just speculating that it would be a Police decision if anybody's. You need to read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.

And who are you referring too exactly when you talk about those with the power who won't or can't get behind this?

I thought as a link between the club and the supporters you might know the answer.

[Tokyos Boot]

I think all of these Stewarding / Alleged trouble situations that are arising from the new fangled singing section are just teething problems.

I believe theres no smoke without fire where Police are concerned, if you want to stand with a bunch of lads who are known for inciting trouble or who try to put on some sort of 'criminal' hardman persona then you are going to be treat accordingly, if you look like your causing trouble and don't want to be accused of causing trouble - don't look like your causing trouble!!

Having said that, young lads who want to get raucous at matches get treat like thugs, and watched heavily - its almost like when everyone labels someone a 'bad lad' in school they may as well be bad! Boys will be boys, football is a sport that has a sense of vitriol and aggression between supporters - thats part of the game, no matter how you want to rebrand the sport a 'family' thing, these supporters are part of the drfc community, they pay their money and get behind the lads and are the beating heart of what a support is!

It might upset the grumpy rovers bourgeois to hear the odd 'swear' or see people stood up, but the truth is you'd get it at every other club in the country - embrace your singers, these are the people who travel away, who spend their minimum wages and pocket money on rovers, and (if made to feel welcome) will keep coming back no matter what level we're at!!

[SLO@DRFC]

Members of the clubs senior management would like to meet with members of the singing section next week in order to discuss the singing section. 

The meeting will take place on Wednesday 19th March, 5.30pm at the Keepmoat Stadium.  Please attend if you can.

[KieronDRFC]

Members of the clubs senior management would like to meet with members of the singing section next week in order to discuss the singing section. 

The meeting will take place on Wednesday 19th March, 5.30pm at the Keepmoat Stadium.  Please attend if you can.

Can this be put on the clubs website for all our fans to see?

[Boomstick]

And the Facebook and Twitter page

[Padge_DRFC]

There is an official singing section page on FB, I would say more view that than this forum tbh.

[BigColSutherland]

[MrFrost]

Can't see it happening there in the future. Which is crazy, other clubs allow their fans to congregate next to away fans.

Funny how the club didn't act against Barnsley or Huddersfield fans who let smoke canisters off in the stadium, many of them remained in the stadium.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

From a neutral perspective, you can understand if there is evidence of unruly behaviour in that section then the club want to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. Moreover, I'm sure you're all aware, policing costs can be a high burden on the club.

I'm sure, in one form or another we support a singing section however, as said above if this is being used as an excuse for unruly behaviour and to intimidate away fans, then those in favour of it need to understand the difference between this and creating an atmosphere. The two are not the same.

I've always maintained the South Stand is the best place to grow a kop/singing section, call it what you like. Creating a good atmosphere in a ground takes much more than this though. 

[MrFrost]

From a neutral perspective, you can understand if there is evidence of unruly behaviour in that section then the club want to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. Moreover, I'm sure you're all aware, policing costs can be a high burden on the club.

I'm sure, in one form or another we support a singing section however, as said above if this is being used as an excuse for unruly behaviour and to intimidate away fans, then those in favour of it need to understand the difference between this and creating an atmosphere. The two are not the same.

I've always maintained the South Stand is the best place to grow a kop/singing section, call it what you like. Creating a good atmosphere in a ground takes much more than this though. 

Why isn't more done then to stop away fans doing the same thing? The way the Barnsley fans were allowed to continually throw things into the home fans without anyone being ejected was disgusting.

[MrFrost]

Also, as a point, the singing section is there the cheap season tickets are being sold for next season, what if they sell or have already sold a large number of season tickets in those blocks to these people? What happens then?

[knockers]

There was no bother from the lads last night and they also tried to spread the singing by some going top and some bottom of the stand. At one point the stewards moved the lads at the bottom for no reason at all. The section is working, it's quite funny to listen to and it adds to the entertainment. Keep it up and if I were you I'd all buy season tickets in that area as there are enough left and the club would have to leave you where you are.

[Padge_DRFC]

Those kids would be going for handbags at the end of the game anyway. I hope this doesn't stop. It will and we'll carry on letting away fans do what they want as per.

[wesisback]

Members of the clubs senior management would like to meet with members of the singing section next week in order to discuss the singing section. 

The meeting will take place on Wednesday 19th March, 5.30pm at the Keepmoat Stadium.  Please attend if you
can.

Is it solely those from the singing section?
I wouldn't mind attending this to find out exactly why tje club are intent on keeping the Keepmoat as quiet as a morgue. A better atmosphere would surely encourage more through the door.

[SLO@DRFC]

Members of the clubs senior management would like to meet with members of the singing section next week in order to discuss the singing section. 

The meeting will take place on Wednesday 19th March, 5.30pm at the Keepmoat Stadium.  Please attend if you
can.

Is it solely those from the singing section?
I wouldn't mind attending this to find out exactly why tje club are intent on keeping the Keepmoat as quiet as a morgue. A better atmosphere would surely encourage more through the door.

Hi,

While the focus of the meeting will be surrounding the singing section and the club mainly want to meet with these fans specificly, any fan who would like to put their view across on this topic are welcome.

[wesisback]

Sums up my feelings exactly Sad.
Ive made my feelings clear on Facebook but feel the club owe it to our fans to give this it's best stab and act sensibly in its approach. It would be fair to describe tje Keepmoats atmosphere as shite at best!
Any section like this will always bring in a certain amount of idiots with it but the club need to manage that and it seemed they were to an extent.
Out of interest what happened to Julie? Where's this Andy fella come from?