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Quote from: bobjimwilly on March 13, 2014, 10:05:27 amFirst off, a lot of the "prawn sandwich brigade" have been there and dunnit before you were born; they stood on terraces for years and if it's there choice to sit now, separate from the singers, they've earned that choice.DRFC are trying to cater to all fans, hence allowing the trial of the singing section.The keepmoat SHOULD NOT be an uncomfortable place to come for away fans and the modern game will not allow it. And I'm sure you've done plenty of research on this but just because you write that we need fans with intimidating & tribal attitudes, it doesn't mean it's actually true (although I don't find 100 or so young teenagers taking their shoes off that intimidating in the slightest, but I digress). In fact, most of the fans who are complaining about this and that on facebook would have been under 10 when we were still at Belle-Vue, which speaks volumes when they try and compare OBV with the Keepmoat.And if DRFC were simply a corporate money machine, wouldn't we be charged the sort of prices you see at Leeds, with all their tribal, amazing fans? Who are really the fans getting bent over? Bore off, not sure why you like football. Perhaps you would be better suited to watching cricket, or snooker. The keepmoat should be a fortress that teams dread to visit. When I go to away games, I expect to be intimidated, it's part of the buzz of football, all stood together outnumbered in someone else's back yard. I tend to avoid the boring soulless stadiums, (mk dons, Bournemouth, reading. Instead I go to the ones with a bit of an edge about them, like sheffield utd, forest, millwall. It's time Rovers stopped being so nice, time to toughen up, and give the visitors hell. as I expect to receive when Rovers go away.
First off, a lot of the "prawn sandwich brigade" have been there and dunnit before you were born; they stood on terraces for years and if it's there choice to sit now, separate from the singers, they've earned that choice.DRFC are trying to cater to all fans, hence allowing the trial of the singing section.The keepmoat SHOULD NOT be an uncomfortable place to come for away fans and the modern game will not allow it. And I'm sure you've done plenty of research on this but just because you write that we need fans with intimidating & tribal attitudes, it doesn't mean it's actually true (although I don't find 100 or so young teenagers taking their shoes off that intimidating in the slightest, but I digress). In fact, most of the fans who are complaining about this and that on facebook would have been under 10 when we were still at Belle-Vue, which speaks volumes when they try and compare OBV with the Keepmoat.And if DRFC were simply a corporate money machine, wouldn't we be charged the sort of prices you see at Leeds, with all their tribal, amazing fans? Who are really the fans getting bent over?
I don't see the problem. I've been to many away games over the last few years where the home team has fans congregated next to the away fans. The police and stewards just let them get on with it.
oh dear, here we go, it's all the fault of the trust now... Season Ticket Holders should, and will, always be prioritised. They allow the club to set budgets each year, and they bring in the regular income. Let's also remember that the Season ticket holders who may have been affected by the singing area may have been sat in the same seat for 6 or 7 years.Why would you bring up anything to do with literacy skills, and why would you suggest the younger fans don't have any? Are your next posts going to mention Hitler by any chance...And I'm not sure you are in a position to be judging anyone on diplomacy skills...
you are forever thinking of potential problems but never giving any solutions.
Attendance comparisons with OBV have been mentioned a few times. If the following stats are true, OBV didn't hold, on average, anywhere near as many people as the Keepmoat sees on a regular basishttp://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/donr.htm
Just remember there's a disabled section in the area in question; those in wheelchairs can't be easily relocated if they have any problems with the singing section, not that they or any other season ticket holder should be made to relocate
sorry for the age I took to respond (10 mins?), I'm trying to do some work at the same time here, which is proving quite difficult...My answer is I don't perceive the "problem" to be as bad as some suggest, or easy to solve as writing a couple of posts on a forum. I also, believe it or not, prefer to work directly with those that can make a difference it the real world, rather than anonymous posters on an internet forum. C'est la viehere's an emoticon I think he's shaking his fist in this one?
If we all thought like you we would never have any motorways or airports in this country
Yeah, fcuk it, let's forget our season ticket holders who prop up the club every season...
Quote from: bobjimwilly on March 13, 2014, 01:35:35 pmoh dear, here we go, it's all the fault of the trust now... Season Ticket Holders should, and will, always be prioritised. They allow the club to set budgets each year, and they bring in the regular income. Let's also remember that the Season ticket holders who may have been affected by the singing area may have been sat in the same seat for 6 or 7 years.Why would you bring up anything to do with literacy skills, and why would you suggest the younger fans don't have any? Are your next posts going to mention Hitler by any chance...And I'm not sure you are in a position to be judging anyone on diplomacy skills...As a general rule, i always think as soon as the word 'Hilter' appears in anyones debate about anything (other than world politics) it means they're running out of ideas! Well i disagree with that system, its all well and good that we have a committed band of supporters with the free income and commitment to buy a season ticket, and thank god for them for their commitment...But if you go to any business as a customer, lets say Tesco as an example, wether you are a clubcard holder or not, wether you are buying a packet of smart price cheese curls or spending £500 on electronics your needs as a customer are all equally important, because they see the value in customer satisfaction.We have a small percentage of unhappy pedants because they can't sit in a seat (that is the same replicated piece of plastic with just as good a view all around the stadium)... and a much much higher percentage of supporters who are unsatisfied with the atmosphere. But its easier to berate those in the tracksuits isn't it.
What's your answer then bobjimwilly you are forever thinking of potential problems but never giving any solutions.
Quote from: bobjimwilly on March 13, 2014, 02:40:03 pmsorry for the age I took to respond (10 mins?), I'm trying to do some work at the same time here, which is proving quite difficult...My answer is I don't perceive the "problem" to be as bad as some suggest, or easy to solve as writing a couple of posts on a forum. I also, believe it or not, prefer to work directly with those that can make a difference it the real world, rather than anonymous posters on an internet forum. C'est la viehere's an emoticon I think he's shaking his fist in this one?Is this a guy who participates in "warning" people? As a little yardstick, I got PM warned by a mod for referring (in general terms) to unspecified posters as "neanderthals". One rule for one eh..... Like most things, and readily demonstrated on here all too frequently, a little bit of power goes to folk's heads. Sad. I can't find the emoticon for brainless.