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To be fair I cant blame them really...The club have worked hard to get the Police bill down but incidents like Huddersfield wont help their case one bit...Some of them seem quite happy to want to meet there own fellow fans for a ruck so would the club really want them next to the oppositions..no of course they wouldn't...Obviousley they represent only a small minority of fans who want the singing section but a few bad apples always spoil the Barrell...Its the guys who took part in the experiment for all the right reasons who I feel sorry for because once again the mindless few spoil it for everyone else....
Quote from: wing commander on March 18, 2014, 03:12:50 pm To be fair I cant blame them really...The club have worked hard to get the Police bill down but incidents like Huddersfield wont help their case one bit...Some of them seem quite happy to want to meet there own fellow fans for a ruck so would the club really want them next to the oppositions..no of course they wouldn't...Obviousley they represent only a small minority of fans who want the singing section but a few bad apples always spoil the Barrell...Its the guys who took part in the experiment for all the right reasons who I feel sorry for because once again the mindless few spoil it for everyone else....The incidents were a flash in the pan. Nothing more and I've heard of far worse happening on match days. It's an excuse for them to ditch it pure and simple. Ahh just read as well no new season tickets will be sold in that area either so it appears they've drastically reduced the number of cat c season tickets available. Bravo.
Quote from: MrFrost on March 18, 2014, 03:17:08 pmQuote from: wing commander on March 18, 2014, 03:12:50 pm To be fair I cant blame them really...The club have worked hard to get the Police bill down but incidents like Huddersfield wont help their case one bit...Some of them seem quite happy to want to meet there own fellow fans for a ruck so would the club really want them next to the oppositions..no of course they wouldn't...Obviousley they represent only a small minority of fans who want the singing section but a few bad apples always spoil the Barrell...Its the guys who took part in the experiment for all the right reasons who I feel sorry for because once again the mindless few spoil it for everyone else....The incidents were a flash in the pan. Nothing more and I've heard of far worse happening on match days. It's an excuse for them to ditch it pure and simple. Ahh just read as well no new season tickets will be sold in that area either so it appears they've drastically reduced the number of cat c season tickets available. Bravo.Top post MrFrost, you're right!!The club are using an isolated, outside of the stadium incident by a very small group of idiots to pin a well banded around stereotype onto a project dreamt up by a larger group of positive and pro-active people who are trying to create a bit of an atmosphere around the place!I think the way the club are going about this will be a nail in the coffin of our hopes of having any continual atmosphere in the KMS, the club, the stewards, the 'policing budget' and a lot of the more pedantic season ticket holders just don't seem to be willing to accommodate it.They should do a match-day experience survey amongst KMS visitors, if they could mark a simple 'atmosphere' 1-10 mark on their way out how do you think we'd score? 1, maybe 2 at a push?
Quote from: Tokyos Boot on March 18, 2014, 04:43:11 pmQuote from: MrFrost on March 18, 2014, 03:17:08 pmQuote from: wing commander on March 18, 2014, 03:12:50 pm To be fair I cant blame them really...The club have worked hard to get the Police bill down but incidents like Huddersfield wont help their case one bit...Some of them seem quite happy to want to meet there own fellow fans for a ruck so would the club really want them next to the oppositions..no of course they wouldn't...Obviousley they represent only a small minority of fans who want the singing section but a few bad apples always spoil the Barrell...Its the guys who took part in the experiment for all the right reasons who I feel sorry for because once again the mindless few spoil it for everyone else....The incidents were a flash in the pan. Nothing more and I've heard of far worse happening on match days. It's an excuse for them to ditch it pure and simple. Ahh just read as well no new season tickets will be sold in that area either so it appears they've drastically reduced the number of cat c season tickets available. Bravo.Top post MrFrost, you're right!!The club are using an isolated, outside of the stadium incident by a very small group of idiots to pin a well banded around stereotype onto a project dreamt up by a larger group of positive and pro-active people who are trying to create a bit of an atmosphere around the place!I think the way the club are going about this will be a nail in the coffin of our hopes of having any continual atmosphere in the KMS, the club, the stewards, the 'policing budget' and a lot of the more pedantic season ticket holders just don't seem to be willing to accommodate it.They should do a match-day experience survey amongst KMS visitors, if they could mark a simple 'atmosphere' 1-10 mark on their way out how do you think we'd score? 1, maybe 2 at a push?Will you be attending the meeting to air your concerns?
Where were they meant to throw it? If it lands at your feet it goes back in the direction it came from.
Pathetic, that's irony considering you will now not buy a ST because you can't sit in a small slither of the ground! Is it really that important that you aren't willing to sit elsewhere!?
Quote from: Filo on March 18, 2014, 05:29:38 pmQuote from: Tokyos Boot on March 18, 2014, 04:43:11 pmQuote from: MrFrost on March 18, 2014, 03:17:08 pmQuote from: wing commander on March 18, 2014, 03:12:50 pm To be fair I cant blame them really...The club have worked hard to get the Police bill down but incidents like Huddersfield wont help their case one bit...Some of them seem quite happy to want to meet there own fellow fans for a ruck so would the club really want them next to the oppositions..no of course they wouldn't...Obviousley they represent only a small minority of fans who want the singing section but a few bad apples always spoil the Barrell...Its the guys who took part in the experiment for all the right reasons who I feel sorry for because once again the mindless few spoil it for everyone else....The incidents were a flash in the pan. Nothing more and I've heard of far worse happening on match days. It's an excuse for them to ditch it pure and simple. Ahh just read as well no new season tickets will be sold in that area either so it appears they've drastically reduced the number of cat c season tickets available. Bravo.Top post MrFrost, you're right!!The club are using an isolated, outside of the stadium incident by a very small group of idiots to pin a well banded around stereotype onto a project dreamt up by a larger group of positive and pro-active people who are trying to create a bit of an atmosphere around the place!I think the way the club are going about this will be a nail in the coffin of our hopes of having any continual atmosphere in the KMS, the club, the stewards, the 'policing budget' and a lot of the more pedantic season ticket holders just don't seem to be willing to accommodate it.They should do a match-day experience survey amongst KMS visitors, if they could mark a simple 'atmosphere' 1-10 mark on their way out how do you think we'd score? 1, maybe 2 at a push?Will you be attending the meeting to air your concerns?It's all you can contribute isn't Filo? Trying to point score over those who might not be able to attend.Oh and with some brilliant foresight, the club announced the meeting just to push it back a day.Pathetic. They've lost 3 potential season ticket sales from me and a couple of others with this farce, as that's where we wanted to sit. We've decided we will go to away games instead.
There's always an excuse with Mr frost isn't there? You could probably right a book with them.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 18, 2014, 06:21:33 pmThere's always an excuse with Mr frost isn't there? You could probably right a book with them.Unfair.Frosty has sent a 4 page email to the club, full of ideas.The fact emails don't come in pages, the club never got it, he hasn't got time for sharing ideas anyway, it's not his job to come up with ideas and all the ideas he's shared on here have been tried, failed or discounted by professionals is neither here nor there.
Quote from: MrFrost on March 18, 2014, 03:17:08 pmQuote from: wing commander on March 18, 2014, 03:12:50 pm To be fair I cant blame them really...The club have worked hard to get the Police bill down but incidents like Huddersfield wont help their case one bit...Some of them seem quite happy to want to meet there own fellow fans for a ruck so would the club really want them next to the oppositions..no of course they wouldn't...Obviousley they represent only a small minority of fans who want the singing section but a few bad apples always spoil the Barrell...Its the guys who took part in the experiment for all the right reasons who I feel sorry for because once again the mindless few spoil it for everyone else....The incidents were a flash in the pan. Nothing more and I've heard of far worse happening on match days. It's an excuse for them to ditch it pure and simple. Ahh just read as well no new season tickets will be sold in that area either so it appears they've drastically reduced the number of cat c season tickets available. Bravo.Do you think the police thought it was just a 'flash in the pan' or an ongoing problem that has to be continually monitored in case of more 'flashes in the pan'?
Some of the hogwash on this thread just makes you wonder. Unless I've missed something....1. Has the club said it wants to kill the singing section stone dead?2. Has the club said it wants to prevent good atmospheres evolving?3. Has the club taken action to nip in the bud unruly behaviour to ensure the enjoyment of others are not compromised?4. Has the club also taken action to progress things by holding a meeting for all interested parties? Isn't the above totally reasonable?
Question 3. If the answer to this is yes, why is the section still closed to people wishing to but tickets there?