Another beheading

[RobTheRover]

Armageddon Days are here again - The The

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wa-qOb8eI

[IC1967]

Well put RD. I could have written every word.

In a nutshell it's all about oil. The US hasn't been getting involved as much as it used to because it is now less dependent on oil.

Unfortunately because of the Sunni/Shia split in Islam they are never going to be reconciled. That's why we need to impose brutal secular dictators on all these countries. We probably need to draw up some new boundaries for a lot of these countries and ship various religions into the state that supports their religion. However we still need brutal dictators in place to prevent any uprisings. Democracy is totally not the solution.

[glosterred]

BST

But in warfare, rules don't exist and there will be collateral damage. Don't get me wrong.

Rules do exists, the Geneva convention lay out the rules of war. However IS are not a nation state or a signature to the convention, but just because they haven't signed does not give us the right to ignore the rule of war. If we go into this not caring about collateral damage to civilians then for every "innocent" civilian we kill we will generate for IS 10 or more new fighters.

GLOSTER

I'm well aware of the Geneva Convention. Unfortunately, IS aren't. And that's what relevant.

What is relevant is that we have to follow the Geneva Convention, we cannot ignore it just because IS do - if we do not follow the conventions then you will find our soldiers, airman in court and serving time for War Crimes. No matter who we fight in this day and age we, the signatures of the Geneva Convention, have to abide by its rules. We cannot pick and choose when we apply those rules

[Filo]

BST

But in warfare, rules don't exist and there will be collateral damage. Don't get me wrong.

Rules do exists, the Geneva convention lay out the rules of war. However IS are not a nation state or a signature to the convention, but just because they haven't signed does not give us the right to ignore the rule of war. If we go into this not caring about collateral damage to civilians then for every "innocent" civilian we kill we will generate for IS 10 or more new fighters.

GLOSTER

I'm well aware of the Geneva Convention. Unfortunately, IS aren't. And that's what relevant.

What is relevant is that we have to follow the Geneva Convention, we cannot ignore it just because IS do - if we do not follow the conventions then you will find our soldiers, airman in court and serving time for War Crimes. No matter who we fight in this day and age we, the signatures of the Geneva Convention, have to abide by its rules. We cannot pick and choose when we apply those rules

America, Guantanamo Bay?

[glosterred]

BST

But in warfare, rules don't exist and there will be collateral damage. Don't get me wrong.

Rules do exists, the Geneva convention lay out the rules of war. However IS are not a nation state or a signature to the convention, but just because they haven't signed does not give us the right to ignore the rule of war. If we go into this not caring about collateral damage to civilians then for every "innocent" civilian we kill we will generate for IS 10 or more new fighters.

GLOSTER

I'm well aware of the Geneva Convention. Unfortunately, IS aren't. And that's what relevant.

What is relevant is that we have to follow the Geneva Convention, we cannot ignore it just because IS do - if we do not follow the conventions then you will find our soldiers, airman in court and serving time for War Crimes. No matter who we fight in this day and age we, the signatures of the Geneva Convention, have to abide by its rules. We cannot pick and choose when we apply those rules

America, Guantanamo Bay?

If you ask the Americans they are prisoners of war, which means they can keep them there until the war is over. Also unlike us the US did not sign up to allowing there troops to be tried in the court of law at The Hague as we did.

[jonnydog]

... And so it begins!

[Filo]

And another person gets beheaded in the name of Islam, these t**ts need wiping from the face of the earth, get those airstrikes stepped up and hit the hard!

[roversdude]

It will need more than air strikes Filo
What a set of horrible bas*ards they and similar require obliterating from the face of the earth

[Glyn_Wigley]

I notice the EDL are very quiet about this.

But then again, it was them that wanted the British radicals to get out of the country..!

[coventryrover]

Any one seen the front page of the independent on Sunday.  Vile act but that's how to report it. ( craps at putting pics I here )

[BillyStubbsTears]

Coventry

Is this the one you mean?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/alan-henning-beheading-british-muslims-warn-aid-workers-death-marks-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-isis-9774528.html

We frequently hear people complaining that the Muslim community in this country doesn't condemn the barbaric acts committed by SOME Islamists. They've been doing it loud and clear over ISIS. I assume that those who have complained in the past are taking note.

[donnybel]

Whatever we do in the west, we can't alter the fact that the two main islam groups (the Sunni and the Shia) hate each over and have done for centuries. I hate to have to say this but I feel Al Quaida could have a very important say in how this pans out because they don't like what IS are doing. Goes against the grain but, how many times in history have the biggest enemies become the biggest allies. Also agree with BST, carpet bombing brings us down to their level, we take thousands of lives to their few be headings.....they'd have a field day against the western world.

[IC1967]

I'm all for carpet bombing at the very least. I think it's now time to use nuclear weapons. That would sort em out.

[coventryrover]

Coventry

Is this the one you mean?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/alan-henning-beheading-british-muslims-warn-aid-workers-death-marks-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-isis-9774528.html

We frequently hear people complaining that the Muslim community in this country doesn't condemn the barbaric acts committed by SOME Islamists. They've been doing it loud and clear over ISIS. I assume that those who have complained in the past are taking note.

this this is it Billy

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/the-independent-6143121.html

[jucyberry]

The Independent's front page shows how these terrible acts should be reported. Every time the awful photographs of these poor man kneeling in front of a cowardly monster who dare not even show his face are used by the media it serves their agenda of propaganda. That HAS to stop.

I totally respect and admire this front page. It is far more effective for it's decency and simplicity.

[not on facebook]

Got an idea on how to KILL many IS members

What so all muslims do on fridays ? They all go to a mosque to pray.

Uncle sam should spend time finding out what mosques the IS members use in Their new state

And 10 mins to prays while Their heads are all down and arse ends all
Pointing upwards ,hit whatever mosque is Been used by IS via multi drone Strikes.

Lbh everyone inside said mosque will be associated with IS no matter
Their age

[BillyStubbsTears]

Oslo

f**king genius!

I don't mean the idea. I've not got a Scooby what you're on about.

But you've invented a code that CCHQ will take a decade to decypher.

[not on facebook]

Oslo

f***ing genius!

I don't mean the idea. I've not got a Scooby what you're on about.

But you've invented a code that CCHQ will take a decade to decypher.

I need glasses and thinner fingers

Have fixed my mistakes

[RobTheRover]

Cant we release a load of Ebola carriers with bad headcolds into Syria?

[not on facebook]

Cant we release a load of Ebola carriers with bad headcolds into Syria?

Think it will be IS muslims that will do that act to the west rob

Their are not too fussed about strapping a bomb to them sens are Blowing
Them sens to bits for the  cause.

[donnyproletarian]

Why should the UK alone be involved.Surely its an international issue affecting the whole world.I thought we were skint
Why dont we get involved in other conficts round he world  if we are going to take the moral highground on human rights
Why are some idiots calling for the banning of islam when its only a minority of extremists causing this mayham.Its like calling for the banning of catholisism for thee IRAI