State License to Rob the Public

[Glyn_Wigley]

Another successful bout of exposing the paucity of thinking of lefties. It really is time you abandoned your socialist ideology and came into the brave new world of capitalism. How many times do i need to prove you lefties wrong before you see the light?

Any right minded person would have conclude by now that I know what I'm talking about. How many debates have I had with lefties? Too many to count. How many have I lost? That's dead easy. None.

Now given that track record it beggars belief that there are any lefties left on this forum.

I'm reminded of the old saying, 'you can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink'.

The good news for those of you that are still lefties is that I'm not going to give up on you. I'll keep on exposing leftie drivel, until one day you will see that I've been right all along. It's a good job I've got staying power is all I can say.

How can it be you debating when you use someone else's words?

It's also very interesting that those words are spouted by someone for whom I can find no record of their academic background (in economics or any other field whatsoever) to give their words any credence. Not even in their profile on the ASI website. As you keep telling us you're an expert in these matters, I'm sure you can enlighten me as to his qualifications.

Look, I've conclusively won the debate (yet again). I'd be grateful if you could just accept this fact instead of scrabbling around for the academic qualifications of a member of the ASI. Academic qualifications have their place in this world but they are not the be all and end all. It really does those of you that think you are superior to everyone else just because you've been to university no favours at all to constantly brag about your achievements. I don't brag about my qualifications. I intend to keep this policy. I'll just say you would all be very surprised if I told you what they were.

I feel this bragging about qualifications puts off other forum members from posting because they feel intimidated by you elitist lefties. That is a real shame and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I would encourage anyone to post their views regardless of academic achievements. Don't let the leftie elitists put you off. Your opinion is just as valid as theirs. For those of you that are still a bit too intimidated to take them on, rest assured I will continue to fight the good fight and will keep on putting them in their place.

So much for answering every question, eh, Mick?

Of course, we all know it's because you can't find the answer using Google any more than we can.

[BobG]

See now you're making like a wind up merchant Mick. That would make you as sad, if not more, than if you are an ill educated, impervious bigot.

My old Dad always told me to never look a gift horse in the mouth. It won't come back he used to say. Well. That's twice now you've refused my gift horse. You best remember what comes of doing that.

BobG

[IC1967]

I have a City & Guilds in Bricklaying (among other qualifications) that doesnt stop me from posting among you great minds - nor does it make me an expert in economics. It does make me wonder though how someone claims to have won an argument by posting a wesite article that sets out to disprove the Oxfam claim - by ignoring it and claiming something else.

So Mick, if the richest 1% wont own half the wealth - how much will they own? And the 5% reduction in poverty and rise in living standards for the people of Africa, how much of this is down to international development and charitable aid?

Good on you for not being intimidated by the leftie elitists. I wish there were more of you prepared to put your heads up above the parapet. I do hope I haven't scared anyone off. I do have a very pugnacious debating style and this can sometimes come across as arrogance. Rest assured I am a very modest person and would advise anyone not to take my pugnacity the wrong way. I give it out so rest assured I'm prepared to take it. You should see some of the things Billy says about me.

Anyway back on topic. May I refer you to this excellent thread what I started to answer your first question:

http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=250784.0

As far as your second question goes, I believe international development and charitable aid hinder the reduction in poverty. What these poor countries need is fair trade, not handouts. It is criminal the way the world's wealthiest countries rip off poor countries.

[IC1967]

Another successful bout of exposing the paucity of thinking of lefties. It really is time you abandoned your socialist ideology and came into the brave new world of capitalism. How many times do i need to prove you lefties wrong before you see the light?

Any right minded person would have conclude by now that I know what I'm talking about. How many debates have I had with lefties? Too many to count. How many have I lost? That's dead easy. None.

Now given that track record it beggars belief that there are any lefties left on this forum.

I'm reminded of the old saying, 'you can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink'.

The good news for those of you that are still lefties is that I'm not going to give up on you. I'll keep on exposing leftie drivel, until one day you will see that I've been right all along. It's a good job I've got staying power is all I can say.

How can it be you debating when you use someone else's words?

It's also very interesting that those words are spouted by someone for whom I can find no record of their academic background (in economics or any other field whatsoever) to give their words any credence. Not even in their profile on the ASI website. As you keep telling us you're an expert in these matters, I'm sure you can enlighten me as to his qualifications.

Look, I've conclusively won the debate (yet again). I'd be grateful if you could just accept this fact instead of scrabbling around for the academic qualifications of a member of the ASI. Academic qualifications have their place in this world but they are not the be all and end all. It really does those of you that think you are superior to everyone else just because you've been to university no favours at all to constantly brag about your achievements. I don't brag about my qualifications. I intend to keep this policy. I'll just say you would all be very surprised if I told you what they were.

I feel this bragging about qualifications puts off other forum members from posting because they feel intimidated by you elitist lefties. That is a real shame and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I would encourage anyone to post their views regardless of academic achievements. Don't let the leftie elitists put you off. Your opinion is just as valid as theirs. For those of you that are still a bit too intimidated to take them on, rest assured I will continue to fight the good fight and will keep on putting them in their place.

So much for answering every question, eh, Mick?

Of course, we all know it's because you can't find the answer using Google any more than we can.

Look, I have a 100% record for answering every question that is ever thrown at me (unless they are silly). If you feel I haven't answered any of your questions then I'm afraid it's because they have been deemed to be silly.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bob

Like I said. You're wrong mate. He IS an irredeemable head-job.

[Glyn_Wigley]

If you don't answer every question then you can't have a 100% record. QED. I win the debate because I say I have. So there.

[Filo]

I have a City & Guilds in Bricklaying (among other qualifications) that doesnt stop me from posting among you great minds - nor does it make me an expert in economics. It does make me wonder though how someone claims to have won an argument by posting a wesite article that sets out to disprove the Oxfam claim - by ignoring it and claiming something else.

So Mick, if the richest 1% wont own half the wealth - how much will they own? And the 5% reduction in poverty and rise in living standards for the people of Africa, how much of this is down to international development and charitable aid?

I also have a City & Guilds, in Mechanical Engineering and Shipbuilding, and I too am no economics expert, but I do have the ability to have my own opinion and listen to others that have a different opinion, and given a convincing argument I have the ability to change my opinion.


What qualifications do you hold Mick?

[IC1967]

I have a City & Guilds in Bricklaying (among other qualifications) that doesnt stop me from posting among you great minds - nor does it make me an expert in economics. It does make me wonder though how someone claims to have won an argument by posting a wesite article that sets out to disprove the Oxfam claim - by ignoring it and claiming something else.

So Mick, if the richest 1% wont own half the wealth - how much will they own? And the 5% reduction in poverty and rise in living standards for the people of Africa, how much of this is down to international development and charitable aid?

I also have a City & Guilds, in Mechanical Engineering and Shipbuilding, and I too am no economics expert, but I do have the ability to have my own opinion and listen to others that have a different opinion, and given a convincing argument I have the ability to change my opinion.


What qualifications do you hold Mick?

I don't like bragging, so modesty prevents me from revealing this information.

[Filo]

I have a City & Guilds in Bricklaying (among other qualifications) that doesnt stop me from posting among you great minds - nor does it make me an expert in economics. It does make me wonder though how someone claims to have won an argument by posting a wesite article that sets out to disprove the Oxfam claim - by ignoring it and claiming something else.

So Mick, if the richest 1% wont own half the wealth - how much will they own? And the 5% reduction in poverty and rise in living standards for the people of Africa, how much of this is down to international development and charitable aid?

I also have a City & Guilds, in Mechanical Engineering and Shipbuilding, and I too am no economics expert, but I do have the ability to have my own opinion and listen to others that have a different opinion, and given a convincing argument I have the ability to change my opinion.


What qualifications do you hold Mick?

I don't like bragging, so modesty prevents me from revealing this information.

Modesty has n't held you back in the past Mick

Your gambling exploits?

Property portfolio?

Bettereare entrapaneur?

Economics expert?

Champion copy n paste technician?

Ect.

[IC1967]

Look, this obsession with having qualifications is very silly. There are plenty of people out there that are more than capable of getting involved in a debate who have no or limited qualifications. Not everyone has had the opportunity to go to university. The poorer you were as a student, the less likely you were able to go.

So I'd be grateful if everyone could stop banging on about qualifications and stop sneering at people that don't have the same level of qualifications. I generally find that the more qualified a person is, the less connected they are with the real world. The best qualification in life is commonsense.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Look, this obsession with having qualifications is very silly. There are plenty of people out there that are more than capable of getting involved in a debate who have no or limited qualifications. Not everyone has had the opportunity to go to university. The poorer you were as a student, the less likely you were able to go.

So I'd be grateful if everyone could stop banging on about qualifications and stop sneering at people that don't have the same level of qualifications. I generally find that the more qualified a person is, the less connected they are with the real world. The best qualification in life is commonsense.

That's all very well, but do you think something like the ASI should have someone as their Head Of Policy someone with no apparent qualifications for the job..?

[IC1967]

Look, this obsession with having qualifications is very silly. There are plenty of people out there that are more than capable of getting involved in a debate who have no or limited qualifications. Not everyone has had the opportunity to go to university. The poorer you were as a student, the less likely you were able to go.

So I'd be grateful if everyone could stop banging on about qualifications and stop sneering at people that don't have the same level of qualifications. I generally find that the more qualified a person is, the less connected they are with the real world. The best qualification in life is commonsense.

That's all very well, but do you think something like the ASI should have someone as their Head Of Policy someone with no apparent qualifications for the job..?

Yes. I couldn't care less if he's got qualifications or not. If he is now Head of Policy then he deserves a lot of credit for rising to this lofty position. He would not be in the role unless his previous bosses thought he was capable of doing the job.

There are plenty of people out there that have made great successes of their lives that aren't qualified. Have you heard of Alan Sugar (no qualifications)? Have you heard of Richard Branson (high school drop out)? I could go on.

The accusation has been leveled at me that I did not participate in high level education, something that Billy and BobG constantly mention. Modesty prevents me from stating what my qualifications are but if I haven't had a high level education how on earth am I able to batter them in every debate I ever have with them? Surely they should be able to work out that a high level education is not necessary to be the best debater on this forum. Instead they don't seem to value the opinions of others unless they think they've been educated to degree level, especially if they are right wingers.

[Glyn_Wigley]

You don't win debates just because you decide to announce you have. And if you believe anyone else on this forum takes such pronouncements the slightest bit seriously you are immensely deluded.

[BobG]

You are quite right Billy. I submit. The man is stark, staring bonkers. Mick's modesty is clearly a fig leave to cover up the nakedness of his diploma cupboard. He's never been modest before so I simply don't believe him when he claims it now.

Let's forget the modesty Mick. I'll start you off: I have 5 post graduate qualifications. Each and every one of them gives me the right to put some letters after my name. I know at least one, and I think two more, people on this site who possess qualifications that make mine look trivial - which they are not. So given how you ever lastingly shout for upholding traditonal British values, I've got the traditional British education that helps me research, think, draw conclusions and form my views. Now what is it that guides the formation of yours eh? Prejudice? Wilful blindness? Stupidity? You are a f***ing joke Mick. Did you have a frontal lobotomy when you were a kid? It's about the only explanatuion for your behaviour that I can think of. You have proved yourself unable to recognise, never mind accept, an olive branch. So this is the alternative. You just lost yourself someone who sometimes defended you off screen you pillock. I don't suppose you've ever even thought that an awful lot is said, and worked out, privately before it ever gets onto threads like this. I shan't make the mistake of bigging you up ever again.

You've misread Wilts post too. So much for incisive analysis and thinking.....

And so far you've avoided answering 47 qustions in this thread. Go on. Count the f***ers. Oh. I almost forgot. I don't suppose higher order numbering is within your comprehension.

I am now absolutely certain that I have never met anyone, in what is now quite a long life, with less to commend them than you. You're out on your own Mick. I hope you enjoy it 'cos no bugger is going to help you out now.

BobG

pS I just re-read that bit of twaddle about the best education being common sense. Talk about getting your defence in first! What a load of utter cobblers. I suppose the Titan rocket could have been built by blokes with common sense but no education. I suppose medical research could be done by blokes with common sense but no education. I suppose chemical engineering could be done by blokes with common sense and no education.

You're off the scale now Mick. In your ever lasting desparate search for positions to bolster up your previously invented positions, is crap like that the best you can come up with? You've betrayed, once again, your lack of brain, your lack of education and your lack of grasp upon reality.  It's time to grow up Mick. Play time is over. You are making enemies now.

[IC1967]

That's quite a tirade. It's a good job I've got a thick skin. Look, you seem like a reasonably intelligent bloke that means well so I harbour no ill will towards you.

Thank you for your support in the past and I wish you well in the future. I'm sorry I seem to have upset you so much. That was never my intention.

However I will not be silenced. I will continue to expose leftie drivel wherever I find it with my usual pugnacious debating style.