Ched Evans wins Appeal

[One_Matty_Lucas]

And he will face a new trial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-36099522

[bally1950]

Waste of Public Money

[esdailles left foot]

Waste of skin

[MrFrost]

Waste of skin

Why's that?

[drfchound]

Waste of Public Money

Public money was used to wrongly convict him so he has the right to his appeal.

[Chris Black come back]

Not really.

On the basis of the evidence put forward at the time, he was convicted.

New evidence has since come forward which was not considered in his original trial.

This may or may not outweight the other evidence. We shall see.

[dickos1]

The initial evidence was also nonsense, made a bit of a mockery of the jury system

[Metalmicky]

Waste of skin

Why's that?

Incredulous as it may be - I actually agree with Frost.  Bloke, convicted without full evidence being available - now has opportunity of a re-trial with new evidence included...   

[IDM]

The initial evidence was also nonsense, made a bit of a mockery of the jury system

Not having a go but were you at the trial?  How can you call the evidence nonsense?

As it stands, the conviction is quashed so technically Evans may still be innocent - yet he may be proven guilty.  That is the legal process taking its course.  The issue should really be why it has taken so long to sort this out and why the "new" evidence took so long to emerge.

IMHO we all need to wait until the re-trial - everything else now is speculation, again.

[bally1950]

New Evidence ????? Maybe that the co - accused is now used as a witness which can be the case. If there are evidence that somebody lied then perjury charges should stand, Do you not think that the woman will have been grilled beyond belief before it got as far as Crown Court...Is he facing another charge of Rape or a lesser charge of Indecent Assault. No body has said anything yet, other than the first conviction is quashed.

Certainly a threesome did take place, with or without consent is the question. NO is NO as lads we should all have understood that. it is not a case of NO < WELL MAYBE IN A WHILE 

[The Red Baron]

Of course it is possible that there will not be a retrial. The case will now go back to the CPS. If they decide that the new evidence means a conviction is now unlikely, they may not proceed further.

The key elements here are that the Court of Appeal quashed the conviction and did so on the basis of new evidence rather than a mis-trial or other procedural error.

As for Evans, I doubt any club would sign him as a player while the possibility of a re-trial is hanging over him. However it could open the door for him to train with a club.

[the vicar]

Get him training with us now

[Muttley]

Get him training with us now

I like to think that our owners have got higher principles than that.

[bally1950]

Get him training with us now

Behave Vicar.. Hound has light heartedly joked that HMP Moorland who Johnson will be playing for next year could loan him to us.  That would be the end of Family Club Status . Joking apart though, who would want them. Particularly Johnson. Both mail excuses for manhood have exploited their profession as being above the law, well now they know they have not. I wonder if Evan's bird is so forgiving, where is the trust there.

[bally1950]

I have just read this on dfp.


The sister of football paedophile Adam Johnson has congratulated fellow player Ched Evans after his conviction for rape was quashed yesterday.

The former Wales and Sheffield United striker now faces a retrial after his guilty verdict was overturned by the Court of Appeal.

And Faye Johnson, sister of the fallen England and Sunderland star, jailed for six years for child sex offences, took to Facebook to express her delight for Evans, 27.


On the Adam Johnson’s Appeal Fight page she wrote: “Great news on Ched Evans winning his appeal. Let’s hope he gets justice thsi time! Good luck to you and your family.”

Johnson is serving his sentence at Doncaster’s Moorland Prison after he was found guilty earlier this year of sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl.
He was switched to the Category C jail last week from Leeds’ tough Armley Prison.

Evans meanwhile, was found guilty of raping a 19-year-old woman at a hotel near Rhyl, North Wales.

But the case was referred to the Court of Appeal after new evidence emerged and yesterday judges allowed the appeal and ordered a retrial.

He was released in October 2014 after serving half of his five year



Read more: http://www.southyorkshiretimes.co.uk/news/local/sister-of-football-paedophile-adam-johnson-sends-good-luck-message-to-ched-evans-as-rape-conviction-quashed-1-7869348#ixzz46XvIbdvb


I rest my case. Utter trash

[IDM]

Get him training with us now

No.  Re-trial first.  There is still a chance he could be found guilty again, isn't there?

[MrFrost]

Get him training with us now

I like to think that our owners have got higher principles than that.

And if he's found not guilty I wouldn't see the issue of him playing

[Iberian Red]

Is the vicar hoping for a mėnange å trois with his missus and Ched?
Dirty old sod!

[German Rover]

Get him training with us now

I like to think that our owners have got higher principles than that.

And if he's found not guilty I wouldn't see the issue of him playing

He'd still be a bell end, but the club would still not be able to claim the moral high ground we've had players who have killed people play for us before.  I'd feel uncomfortable cheering him on, and whoever signs him will have their clubs name dragged through the mud.  Rather steer clear to be honest.

[bally1950]

Rigo.
Don't think so, he accepted the decision of courts

[the vicar]

as of yesterday he has done nothing wrong, just had sex with a woman, are we all not guilty of that sometime in our lives

[drfchound]

The only evidence that sexual intercourse had taken place was offered by Evans and McDonald.
The 19 yr old woman claimed she had no recollection of what happened.
There was no forensic proof of there having been sexual activity.
If the lads had raped her why would they have admitted to having had sex with her.
They were obviously very confident that the jury would have understood what they were saying was the truth.
They were probably poorly advised by their lawyers because had they said they had not had intercourse then there would not have been a case to answer.

[wilts rover]

That's quite true hound - if you ignore the evidence of the hotel porter listening at the door and Evans' two friends filming on their mobile phones through the window - which you appear to have done.

[drfchound]

No I haven't but I didn't think the fact that someone filmed the sex proved that a rape took place.

[GazLaz]

as of yesterday he has done nothing wrong, just had sex with a woman, are we all not guilty of that sometime in our lives

I think there are a few on here that have never seen a vagina in action live.

[wilts rover]

No I haven't but I didn't think the fact that someone filmed the sex proved that a rape took place.

Have a look at the opening sentence in your post 22 again.

There was a court case to 'prove' whether or not a rape took place. Now there is going to be another one.

[drfchound]

Ok, I accept that but even so it still doesn't prove that she was raped does it?
The other thing I wondered about is why one person was convicted and the other , McDonald, was not.
I suppose someone can explain that to me.

[acko]

at the original trial the girl caimed she was too drunk to remember.the judge in his wisdom stated that she was too drunk to consent,the reason McDonald got off it was proved she went back to the motel with him presumely for a game of monopoly

[the vicar]

Get him training with us now

No.  Re-trial first.  There is still a chance he could be found guilty again, isn't there?

then he goes bet you have never done awt wrong same as most on hers, you will al have egg on your face when he proves he did nothing wrong

[the vicar]

Get him training with us now

I like to think that our owners have got higher principles than that.

And if he's found not guilty I wouldn't see the issue of him playing

He'd still be a bell end, but the club would still not be able to claim the moral high ground we've had players who have killed people play for us before.  I'd feel uncomfortable cheering him on, and whoever signs him will have their clubs name dragged through the mud.  Rather steer clear to be honest.

So just tell me why he will be dragged through the mud for doing nothing