One immediate effect of Brexit vote

[Colemans Left Hook]

Cameron's February 2016 "negotiations" became officially null and void FROM THE SECOND THE RESULT WAS ANNOUNCED- FACT - no matter what action or not is taken ...  so it's back to the Jan 2016 situation 

[Glyn_Wigley]

Cameron's February 2016 "negotiations" became officially null and void FROM THE SECOND THE RESULT WAS ANNOUNCED- FACT - no matter what action or not is taken ...  so it's back to the Jan 2016 situation 

So what?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Coleman.

Is this a cry for help?

[bpoolrover]

Nothing has happened yet that was not expected, let's just see what happens you might be surprised and it all works out fine

[Sammy Chung was King]

Cameron definitely wanted us out of the eu. An experienced politician, doesn't get rich people, telling those less well off how to vote.
 Neither would he let various leaders of other countries tell his people how to vote. Time after time he was doing things that aggravated too many people, that's what led to defeat. You can't tell me there wasn't a reason.
 I agree what was said before, that it is to give the conservatives greater power. They can now go after the poor and disabled, and have nobody on they're shoulder, spouting 'human rights'.
The thing is i don't think it will quite work out as he hopes. I don't think the conservatives will be in power for much longer, the party is breaking apart at the seams. They have no leader amongst them capable of running a country.

Before long some time in 2017, there will be a general election, and they will be voted out. The whole conservative party were in on this, Boris and Gove merely played a part in my opinion in standing as opposition.
Cameron had already announced when he took office that he wouldn't see his term out. Osborne was being groomed for the role, the problem is, he is more disliked than cameron. The people have seen through what the conservative party are, and it's not liked by those who voted them in.
Labour haven't put a vote of no confidence in corbyn out for no reason, they know all of this. They are trying to get into a strong position, for when it all comes tumbling down.
Why should it bother us if Scotland decide to join the eu?, nobody is forcing them to stay allied to us, the same with the irish. They will make decisions best for them!.

The pound dropped in value, and has already climbed back upto half of what it lost. We are now in a world market of trading,not just a european one.
 We have commonwealth countries to deal with, countries throughout the world will buy our goods and sell to us.
The cost of living therefore will drop for everybody in the shops. China are the major force in cheap goods, we will deal with them.
The european countries will still deal with us.
Us coming out of the eu, doesn't stop you living abroad, working or visiting there.
In 1973, this country signed up for a far different deal, than what the eu has become. As people of this nation, a vote was taken, the decision was leave, and no amount of moaning will get another referendum.
Just as i would have accepted remain, i am afraid you will have to accept the 'Leave decision'!.

[Padge_DRFC]

When will world war 3 commence? Worst lie of them all.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Grow up Padge.

[BobG]

Is that the Commonwealth, Sammy, that we dropped totally in the shit in 1975?

Things like that are remembered.

BobG

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sammy.

Where do you get this from that the pound has already regained half of what it lost?

On Thursday night it was at $1.50. By Friday morning it was momentarily at $1.33. It's now $1.37.

[Padge_DRFC]

Grow up Padge.

We were told world war 3 would happen if we left the EU? No did I imagine that? Silly me.
David Cameron won a general election on lies. Where's the fraudulent petition to sign for that?

[Dagenham Rover]

Grow up Padge.

We were told world war 3 would happen if we left the EU? No did I imagine that? Silly me.
David Cameron won a general election on lies. Where's the fraudulent petition to sign for that?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-could-trigger-world-war-7928607

[Glyn_Wigley]

Grow up Padge.

We were told world war 3 would happen if we left the EU? No did I imagine that? Silly me.
David Cameron won a general election on lies. Where's the fraudulent petition to sign for that?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-could-trigger-world-war-7928607

Did Cameron himself ever use the words 'World War Three' or is it just another Borisism that everybody has swallowed whole without a squeak?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Dagenham. Padge.

Why do you think the EEC/EC/EU was set up? Look back at the history of Europe. From 400AD to 1945, an army crossed the Rhine to do battle once every 37 years on average.

The primary purpose of the EU was to bind the major countries together so tightly that a future like that would be unthinkable.

No-one is saying that WWIII breaks out the day after Brexit. Don't be so f**king facile.

But the point is that those who say, let the EU collapse and the world will e a better place, haven't got any concept of what history says happens when Europe is disunited.

It's not pretty. And if the EU fragments, Europe will be a significantly less safe place.

[BobG]

And, as I have said many, many times on here, every single major war of the last 300 years except two, has started in Europe.  And even the two that didn't start in Europe involved European nations claiming they knew what was right for the natives.

Padge: go look up Donetsk or another Ukrainian city on YouTube. Just look at what you see. That's not even a war officially. It's just a minor, local disturbance. But just look at the devastation. It's immense. And it's not even 1% of what will happen if a real war breaks out. Once every 37 years Padge. Once every 37 years. You'd do well to think on that - and what can be done to stop it happeening again - especially with a revanchist absolutist in the Kremlin. That guy is the most dangerous man on the planet. I know a fair bit about him. I had to once. If he sees an opening he will not hesitate.

BobG

[Sammy Chung was King]

Sammy.

Where do you get this from that the pound has already regained half of what it lost?

On Thursday night it was at $1.50. By Friday morning it was momentarily at $1.33. It's now $1.37.

BBC News and sky, said it had dropped seven percent, then it recovered three percent, it's just what i heard. You fellas will probably have a more accurate number of where it is at the minute, i don't see any point keep looking at it.
 It is to be expected for the value to drop until things are organised, other countries will feel a little wary. None of us can say for definite what happens, we just look over the facts, and have an opinion on it.
 I think the country will be better for leaving, in the long term, but it's just an opinion. I see our country being the first of many to leave!.
Anybody who says leaving, doesn't have some worries is lying, of course there are problems to iron out, and as you are saying above the wars have come from europe.

Unfortunately the world as a whole is in a very aggressive mood, there aren't many places where there isn't some trouble or another. I know us being in an organisation, makes people feel a touch more organised and safer as a whole.
But if anything of that sort was to happen, the eu countries wouldn't abandon supporting us, as we wouldn't them. Where it's tricky is if problems are between us and eu members, who do they side with?, in this day and age it would be pushing a button not sending forces to invade anyway. I don't see anything like this happening, in any case.
An interesting question, could the eu itself, start a european war, with various disagreements. I think it could work in our favour to not be involved fully with the eu.

 Our country has faults and problems, but on the whole we have a cracking little country, it might be the start of us manufacturing our own goods more in the future, could Sheffield steel and the like, re-emerge, and start the country getting stronger?.

[Padge_DRFC]

Put in won't be the most dangerous man on the planet if Trump gets into the White House. Is it November time?

[Bentley Bullet]

Is he right?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Futxf1U2f8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Futxf1U2f8</a>

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB

No. Not remotely correct

UK Exports to EU ~ £220bn per year
UK imports from EU ~£280bn per year.
He said we import ten times what we export. That claim alone is enough to show that he's a charlatan.

He quotes Open Europe, without stating that it is a think tank set up with the specific aim of promoting the break up of the EU. The Brexiters howled when truly independent organisations like NIESR and IFS gave their assessments. They didn't have an axe to grind. Their assessment was that Brexit will be far more damaging.

Oh aye, and even taking all that on, the Italian journalist was still lying. Open Europe's report said that the worst case scenario was a 2.2% drop in GDP, not 1.1% as that guy said.


See, there are some people who put a particular gloss on arguments. And other who simply lie through their teeth in an effort to convince people.

It's really up to folk to be smart enough to figure out which is which. Or else we're ALL f**ked.