Boris Pulls out

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sammy

You're a man either ahead of , or way behind his time. Not sure which.

What you are saying is that opinion and argument should be taken out of the debate. That there is a way of identifying objectively who is right and who is wrong. That there is such a thing as a "best man or woman for the job" which can be objectively determined, outwith personal prejudices.

What you are calling for, is precisely what the great 17th century German mathematician and philosopher Gottfried Leibnitz envisaged. He had a vision of a time when rational assessment would be the way forward. He said, "when there are disputes among persons, we can simply say: Let us calculate, without further ado, to see who is right."

That has generally been thought of as being hopelessly naive. The opinion has been that human discussions are just too tough to boil down to simple logical decisions. That we have to go on power of argument and gut feeling. In particular, it's been argued, complex and detailed problems, like very tough legal issues are way beyond anything that can be analysed by simply computing solutions. You need sharp, nimble human brain to do that.

Might be changing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36303705

Maybe one day we WILL have a means of identifying objectively who is right and who is wrong in politics. And then there'll be no excuse for voting for the lying bas**rd.

[Colemans Left Hook]

He's been done on this one clearly just doesn't have the support.  The two ladies would be my pick but we need to hear what each says first.

10/10 for that man

at least Julius caesar wasn't stabbed in the front and back  -- it's not the ides of march here nor june perhaps MAY ?

Andrea Leadsom  is her name as I just said she'll be second favourite by the end of the day

history tells us time and again the favourite never wins this race

so indeed she is now second favourite however on the same day I made that post I discovered future "trouble at mill" 

Andrew slipped a "poison" question in to her

   watch "andrew marr persuade "a very reluctant" Andrea Leadsom to publish her tax affairs"

 watch this around 35 minutes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07k5s9c/the-andrew-marr-show-03072016

hesitation hesitation

 a very worried lady

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gove was interviewed after her by marr on the show and presumably asked the same question on tax returns

Then  in the sun inside Monday's paper we have a headline that he will publish his tax returns  -- 

let's just sit and wait for this story to break fully

[Colemans Left Hook]

this story has been now broken AGAIN - at this early hour by the Independent who broke a simialer theme story in april 2014

the new headline

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/andrea-leadsom-faces-demands-to-publish-full-details-of-tax-affairs/ar-AAi1qjZ?ocid=spartandhp



and from april 2014
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-how-city-minister-andrea-leadsom-used-controversial-trusts-to-reduce-her-potential-9268469.html

i also found  this today posted on Thursday strangely - the same day I made my discoveries

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=breqiktFQss

 
it has "plagiarised" a lot of info from the OLD independent link above

 
https://beastrabban.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/private-eye-on-andrea-leadsom-and-the-hedge-funds-backing-brexit/


my findings also relate to other issues

[BobG]

Beast Rabban? What intergalactic genius is writing this?

BobG

[Colemans Left Hook]

out of interest by my calculations she left BZW (a composite firm formed at the start of big bang - owned by Barclays ) before unlegendary bob diamond joined but the official version indicates she was there at the same time - she claims 25 years in the industry but some of those years appear to be a mystery to me


http://www.desmog.uk/2015/05/25/mysterious-tory-donor-linked-energy-minister-andrea-leadsom-s-rise-power

note the press are silent on this matter  --- only going for the tax angle

By Brendan Montague • Monday, May 25, 2015 - 00:15


"The rise of Andrea Leadsom to energy minister has correlated with generous donations to the Conservative party by Peter de Putron, a mysterious hedge fund guru – and her brother-in-law.

Leadsom was appointed energy and climate change minister in the wake of the Conservatives’ shock victory at the general election. She replaced Amber Rudd – who has been promoted to secretary of state.

De Putron, her brother-in-law and former employer, has donated £816,000 to the Conservative party since she first became an MP in the 2010 election. He has also provided funds for her local constituency party and further cash to pay for the staff in her office.
 
Leadsom’s rise to the top has been steady. She was the managing director of De Putron Fund Management in the 1990s, according to Who’s Who.  etc   etc etc   
"

[Colemans Left Hook]

from july 9th 2014
almost two years ago


http://gulfnews.com/news/europe/uk/minister-s-relative-gave-tories-816-000-1.1357710

"Andrea Leadsom, the financial services minister, said she had no idea her relative, offshore banker Peter de Putron, had given the money.

But last night a Labour MP said the payments raised questions about a possible “cash for political office” arrangement"


....................... 
But Labour MP Tom Watson said: `This doesn’t look right.

“Most reasonable people will expect Andrea Leadsom to rid herself of the suspicion that she might be the beneficiary of a ‘cash for office’ arrangement.”