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roversdude

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #30 on October 01, 2016, 12:18:14 pm by roversdude »
Think it went off topic - are we not discussing British - if so Clapton, Macca or Bowie
Non Brits - Dave Grohl and selfishly Angus Young



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Petche

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #31 on October 01, 2016, 05:39:49 pm by Petche »
Steven (h) Hogarth, a local connection as well!

The Red Baron

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #32 on October 01, 2016, 08:21:25 pm by The Red Baron »
Mark E. Smith. Not a musician, but a genius nonetheless.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #33 on October 01, 2016, 08:52:51 pm by darren61 »
If we are hijacking the original post, as always BTW, I am going for Neil Finn.

Draytonian III

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #34 on October 01, 2016, 09:37:18 pm by Draytonian III »
Anybody but Paul McCartney, the main talent in the Beatles was shot by Mark Chapman in December 1980 .

BobG

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #35 on October 02, 2016, 02:12:56 pm by BobG »
Petche!! I went to school with Steve Hogarth. We used to sit next to each other in maths and a few other lessons too. He used to live up Avoca Avenue (or something like that if I've remembered it wrongly) in Intake. He lives in Oxford now.

He had 2 drop dead gorgeous sisters too....

Do you remember him being the keyboardist for the Europeans?

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #36 on October 02, 2016, 06:03:56 pm by wilts rover »
The greatest living guitarist and no-one has mentioned this guy from Doncaster -

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-QZnnaI7rY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-QZnnaI7rY</a>


AS for greatest musician Robert Fripp of King Crimson, they defined/begun a genre of music and he has always been proper weird - just what you want your rock stars to be.

Petche

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #37 on October 02, 2016, 07:02:06 pm by Petche »
Bob, always been a big fan of Marillion even through the transition to present day so only really discovered Steve Hogarth then. Fantastic musicians the lot of them!

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #38 on October 02, 2016, 08:16:50 pm by Scooter »
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Roger Daltry/ Pete Townshend

selby

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #39 on October 02, 2016, 09:23:45 pm by selby »
Paul Carrack great entertainer and musician pity a Wednesday fan

darren61

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #40 on October 02, 2016, 10:04:47 pm by darren61 »
At the end of the day, its all down to personal taste, so most everyone will have a different veiw. We British have a rich and varied history of music, and long may it last. Rock on mate.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #41 on October 03, 2016, 12:45:04 am by Sammy Chung was King »
John lennon for his performances while alive and his influence during his career and after his death. Greatest showman i have seen though i don't think he qualifies as british, one Farrokh Bulsara-Freddie mercury.

BobG

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #42 on October 03, 2016, 05:13:25 pm by BobG »
Petche - if you look SteveH up on his website or on Marillion or any of the fan sites, they've all got his age wrong. He's managed to 'lose' a few years somewhere along the way. I know, incontrovertibly, that he is, right now, exactly 60 years old.

As a keyboardist, he always was whizz. We've not had many of them mentioned in this thread have we? Other than Steve and Rick Wakeman, who else is there that's any good?

As for The Who's band members, the best live shows I've ever, ever, ever seen. But as top of the list individuals?  Not for me. I love Daltrey as a singer but there's others just as good in Led Zep and Deep Purple for example. And Pete Townsend? Too much showmanship and playing to the gallery.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #43 on October 03, 2016, 05:59:04 pm by Al4475 »
Best british musician in our lifetime?

Depends on genre - imo jacqueline du pre beats everyone!

The greatest cellist who has ever lived bar none! She was everything a cellist could ever be: dynamic, animated, played all the great cello pieces with pure unadulterated passion and class - google her! Unbelievable power and musical beauty!

Taken from us far too soon - a genius!

But cellists don't rank highly in the lists sadly!

wilts rover

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #44 on October 03, 2016, 06:18:32 pm by wilts rover »
Well we are one superb keyboardist down this year with the passing of Keith Emerson so off the top of my head of the ones left alive all these can play a bit:

Brian Eno (Roxy Music & solo)
Tim Blake (Gong & Hawkwind)
Harvey Bainbridge (Hawkwind)
Tony Banks (Genesis)
Gary Brooker & Matthew Fisher (Procol Harem)
Robert John Godfrey (The Enid)
Dave Sinclair (Caravan)
Gary Numan

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #45 on October 03, 2016, 06:22:18 pm by ravenrover »
Jamie Hince "The Kills" isn't a bad guitarist if you like that style of playing, saw them last night at Rock City.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #46 on October 03, 2016, 09:06:39 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Well we are one superb keyboardist down this year with the passing of Keith Emerson so off the top of my head of the ones left alive all these can play a bit:

Brian Eno (Roxy Music & solo)
Tim Blake (Gong & Hawkwind)
Harvey Bainbridge (Hawkwind)
Tony Banks (Genesis)
Gary Brooker & Matthew Fisher (Procol Harem)
Robert John Godfrey (The Enid)
Dave Sinclair (Caravan)
Gary Numan


Don't forget Dave Greenslde of The Stranglers, and Monty Oxymoron of The Damned is an absolutely phenomenal keyboard player.

silent majority

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #47 on October 04, 2016, 02:11:55 am by silent majority »
No Rick Wakeman in that list?

TommyC

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #48 on October 04, 2016, 07:10:35 am by TommyC »
Whilst it would be Clapton for me all day long based on the music, I do question Bob G's comment about him being a "decent  human being". Is that sarcasm?

Eric has long been a musical inspiration of mine but surely the only thing counting against him is his somewhat questionable history.

We're talking about a former alcoholic, heroin addict, serial adulterer and self confessed narcissistic abuser of women. He is an arrogant and deeply flawed individual and that is by his own admission. Also, have you ever heard his drunken Rivers of Blood rant and his admiration for Enoch Powell? Something he has never publicly apologised for or even explained.

Yes, much of this is in the past and nowadays he does much charitable work for alcoholics and drug addicts, but there remain significant question marks over Eric the man! I've seen him four times and on each occasion he barely said two words to the audience and made it very clear he didn't want to be there, something he has since confirmed in interviews and why he is considering ceasing touring.

Says a lot for his music that he remains my all time favourite! Great musician, not so sure he's a great person. The irony of it all is the deep nagging suspicion that Mr Clapton does in fact produce his best music by quite some margin when he is stoned or pissed out of his mind, as shown by his output over the last 20 years.....

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #49 on October 04, 2016, 09:02:30 am by IDM »
Not all great musicians are great people...  From what I have read you could say that John Lennon was a bit of an arsehole to say the least.

However, isn't it the case that the most creative sort tend to be a bit off the rails elsewhere?

The Red Baron

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #50 on October 04, 2016, 09:09:30 am by The Red Baron »
Mark E. Smith doesn't strike me as the sort of bloke I'd enjoy a convivial dinner with. Still love his work.

One reason why I've never really wanted to get to know footballers and sports people in general. Must be very disheartening to find that someone whose talent you admire is a bit of an arsehole in real life.

wilts rover

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #51 on October 04, 2016, 06:05:02 pm by wilts rover »
No Rick Wakeman in that list?

No because the list was in response to Bob's question of who apart from Steve Hogarth and Rick Wakeman are good (British) keyboard players. With apologies to both Mr Hogarth and Mr Oxymoron of the names so far mentioned Wakeman and Eno are by far the pre-eminent ones.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #52 on October 04, 2016, 07:36:46 pm by Dutch Uncle »
A couple of mentions for people not mentioned so far:

Barry Gibb (more as a writer) and the incomparable Bert Jansch as a guitarist

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #53 on October 04, 2016, 08:18:52 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Monty improvising in the pub after a gig...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh-T06jMJhQ

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #54 on October 04, 2016, 09:49:49 pm by BobG »
Tommy: I wrote that Eric Clapton "is a decent human being". Why do want to read it as saying something entirely different? What makes you think I mean something else? Is it something in your own mind?

BobG

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #55 on October 04, 2016, 10:16:31 pm by TommyC »
Not at all. I simply found it a surprising description and not a view of EC that is generally espoused. Not even by the man himself or people who know him well. Apologies for asking if you were being sarcastic. I could just as easily have said "are you having a laugh" or "is that a pisstake Bob". I was expressing surprise at your opinion given the common knowledge about him, nothing more.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #56 on October 05, 2016, 10:44:57 am by silent majority »
No Rick Wakeman in that list?

No because the list was in response to Bob's question of who apart from Steve Hogarth and Rick Wakeman are good (British) keyboard players. With apologies to both Mr Hogarth and Mr Oxymoron of the names so far mentioned Wakeman and Eno are by far the pre-eminent ones.

Sorry, didn't realise that you were referring to a previous post.

silent majority

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« Reply #57 on October 05, 2016, 10:47:05 am by silent majority »
Not at all. I simply found it a surprising description and not a view of EC that is generally espoused. Not even by the man himself or people who know him well. Apologies for asking if you were being sarcastic. I could just as easily have said "are you having a laugh" or "is that a pisstake Bob". I was expressing surprise at your opinion given the common knowledge about him, nothing more.

I've read his autobiography twice, and suffice to say he was probably a dangerous man to be around at certain points in his life. His dedication to his music and how he wanted to follow a certain path made him a difficult man to like I'm sure.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #58 on October 05, 2016, 08:52:26 pm by BobG »
He's a man who cares about his responsibilities. He doesn't run away from his mistakes and he is there when his friends and family need him. He doesn't miss. That makes him a decent guy as far as I'm concerned. If you're worried about a genius focussing on his art, then I'm afraid there's an awful lot of brilliant people you're not going to like.

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Re: Who is the greatest british musician in our lifetime?
« Reply #59 on October 06, 2016, 10:05:26 am by ravenrover »
On the subject of EC worth mentioning Albert Lee as a wonderful guitarist, he ended up playing all the lead guitar bits on EC's shows in the 70's when EC was too off his skull to play live. EC has since referred to him as the greatest guitar player in the world not a bad commendation.

 

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