Grimsby

[Copps is Magic]

I think we should aim for better than 'bring a mate please'. We're far too a professional club in other areas to settle for that. It's apparent we're under-funded and under-staffed in the marketing area. That is the critical issue at hand.

[MrFrost]

I think we should aim for better than 'bring a mate please'. We're far too a professional club in other areas to settle for that. It's apparent we're under-funded and under-staffed in the marketing area. That is the critical issue at hand.

Now Grimsby have sold out maybe our marketing team can concentrate on marketing tickets for home supporters.  I know we come second fiddle but still

[mrfrostsdad]

You can argue all day long about Club Doncaster this and Club Doncaster that, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. We are virtually top of the league, playing probably the best football of any team in this division, and our home following is still crap.
Ok, probably to be expected after the abysmal couple of seasons we've had, but we should be doing everything we can to get people in the ground. There is a feeling we're not.
Now i'm quite surprised at the level of communication from the club this season: e-programmes, match reports etc etc. Very good it is. But I'm a season ticket holder so it falls a bit on deaf ears with me. I don't need to read the match report (especially the standard of report on the official site - see my post from a couple of weeks ago and the stunning 'save made by Ethridge) the question is: how do we target - or attempt to target none season ticket holders with the same level of information?

Unlike Mike, I've never worked in marketing, but I still can't believe we're not pushing the club in town. Surely we can have ticket outlets and information points in shops in town? Would it not help the businesses we had these outlets at as well?? I don't know, over to the marketing men

[silent majority]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

[MrFrost]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Where are the ticket outlets? Genuine question, because i've never seen one or heard one mentioned.

[silent majority]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Where are the ticket outlets? Genuine question, because i've never seen one or heard one mentioned.

I'm not sure. But it was announced some weeks ago that tickets are available from various outlets. I'll check it out.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

We had a presence town in a club shop.  Ultimately it failed because it wasn't viable and that was at a time when our standing was higher.

Tickets are more easily bought now online. We didn't have that facility when we had the shop in town. The club have tried a couple of other things in town but the reason for a non presence is it simply doesn't justify the cost/resources.

These things no doubt will be revisited and regurgitated periodically but the best marketing will be Rovers sitting pretty at the top of the league come Saturday.

We as regular supporters are not the best source of feedback, it's the casual or stay away fans that are more useful.

The truth is probably there is quite alot of apathy out there, given our current League One position some folk just don't give a toss. Some of those bodies that turned out for Stoke last season are likely to need more encouragement than the visit of Grimsby Town.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Where are the ticket outlets? Genuine question, because i've never seen one or heard one mentioned.

I'm not sure. But it was announced some weeks ago that tickets are available from various outlets. I'll check it out.

Could be wrong but wasn't it the Heart Foudation charity shop?

[silent majority]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Where are the ticket outlets? Genuine question, because i've never seen one or heard one mentioned.

I'm not sure. But it was announced some weeks ago that tickets are available from various outlets. I'll check it out.

Could be wrong but wasn't it the Heart Foudation charity shop?

That was my initial thought Baz, but didn't want to get that wrong!!

[vaya]

BHF Shop and Staff of Life.

[anton123]

Let them sell 4500 it will bring us an extra £80000 for Jan window

[wing commander]

 Due to a change in personal circumstances this is the first season in the last twenty odd that I haven't had a season ticket...I still get to half the games but the club don't know that as I pay on the gate....They have all my details,tel no and e-mails etc....I haven't had a single point of contact from anybody since they sent my renewal out last season....

[Al4475]

Thing is surely that folks like us don't need targeting we're generally there home and away - it's the others that need hitting and the regard we are held in by away fans means it's always worth targeting them too! We rank very highly as a club visited by away fans but not that high by us lot that are there most weeks - but we keep turning up anyhow knowing that there's things we could do differently! The casuals need the contact really surely?

[Sammy Chung was King]

We had a presence town in a club shop.

I hope it wasn't Elvis.

[Red wizard]

I'd love to be able to get to games but since moving away I've not been to a home game. My last game was Crewe away last season.

[selby]

Red,nothing against you personally,but just think of what you did last season,and how well we are doing without you.
   You could have been the jinx we were trying to get rid of,pay to player, take the kids out, go shopping with the wife, and let the rest of us enjoy life please.

[karldew]

I've only just noticed that Rovers vs Grimsby is our only league fixture at home in December, surely if this is promoted we should sell a few more tickets?

[Campsall rover]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Our attendances are currently 5th highest in league 2
behind Pompey, Plymouth, Luton and just behind Carlisle.

[mrfrostsdad]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Our attendances are currently 5th highest in league 2
behind Pompey, Plymouth, Luton and just behind Carlisle.

They may well be, but they're still not good.
I wonder how the home support compares to the last time we were in this division?  I know it's a difficult comparison because last time we were on the way up, this time we're on our way down.

[i_ateallthepies]

3rd place in table, automatic promotion position with chance of going top tomorrow and we're on our way down.  A Frost perspective if ever there was one.

[karldew]

Think he just meant we have been relegated?
'This time we were on our way down'

Can't compared attendances from a promotion season and a relegation season.

[eastender]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Our attendances are currently 5th highest in league 2
behind Pompey, Plymouth, Luton and just behind Carlisle.

They may well be, but they're still not good.
I wonder how the home support compares to the last time we were in this division?  I know it's a difficult comparison because last time we were on the way up, this time we're on our way down.

Not just home supporters but overall attendances at Belle Vue 2003/4

Min   4,716

Max  9,720

Ave   6,938

We were 5th highest with a total of 110,569  over the season.

Our average this season after 9 home games is 4885

[DearneValleyRover]

It's also more expensive to go now compared to then.

[MrFrost]

It's also more expensive to go now compared to then.

It was fifteen quid to stand . Only two quid more with a membership. 

[MrFrost]

I stand corrected then.
Still you can't compare ticket prices now to what they were 12 years ago.  It isn't relative. 

[mrfrostsdad]

3rd place in table, automatic promotion position with chance of going top tomorrow and we're on our way down.  A Frost perspective if ever there was one.

Do you want me to draw you pictures?
You know exactly what I meant

[DearneValleyRover]

I stand corrected then.
Still you can't compare ticket prices now to what they were 12 years ago.  It isn't relative. 

Of course it's relative if you're comparing the two different seasons

[MrFrost]

I stand corrected then.
Still you can't compare ticket prices now to what they were 12 years ago.  It isn't relative. 

It's twelve years ago.  The cost of most things have increased.
, including how much people earn. 

Of course it's relative if you're comparing the two different seasons

[Scartho Mariner]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Our attendances are currently 5th highest in league 2
behind Pompey, Plymouth, Luton and just behind Carlisle.

I think you will find my Yorkshire chums you are indeed 6th in the average attendance figures this season. We sit in 4th position with an average of 5096, then come Carlisle, then T'Donny. Should be a cracking atmosphere in a couple of weeks folks! UTM X

[hoolahoop]

Points to be made;
1) Club Doncaster is one of the reasons that the team is at the top end of the league
2) Attendances are the 7th highest in this division, not bad considering the last few seasons but could be better
3) Strategic marketing is aimed at new supporters, youngsters, those that we can capture and those we've left behind
4) The level of communication is aimed at the most valuable supporters, season ticket holders etc. Designed to reward your loyalty
5) Pushing the club in town? We already have ticket outlets. Information points ? Poor return, back to shotgun marketing again.

Answer me this then Martin I turned 60 this year and was a lapsed ST holder due to health. They have all my details , know my DOB, know that I'm a lapsed supporter but do they contact me of course not..........surely it should be flagged up on the system ?