Question for the politics experts

[Bentley Bullet]

Why do the politics experts who regularly express their views of personal dislike of certain politicians in this forum, never mention those that they actually like?

Which politician(s) do YOU like?

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Enoch Powell

[idler]

I think that most people know only their local MPs and ones featuring in the press or on tv. You can only comment on this small percentage but at the present time none of them fill me with confidence.

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I think that most people know only their local MPs and ones featuring in the press or on tv. You can only comment on this small percentage but at the present time none of them fill me with confidence.

I think you will find it mission impossible to find any politician today from what ever party
that you can 120% trust with your vote,no matter what country.

But one country's politicians on how they set out their stalls no matter who is the yanks ,I just
don't trust any single one of them whenever they  get a platform to spew their bile.

[Yargo]

I like anyone in favour of bombing the shit out of  somewhere like Iraq or Libya,so long as they're pro EU

[Glyn_Wigley]

Dennis Skinner

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I actually like Theresa May and Chuka Umuna (spelling?) always seems to talk well and with sense.

[glosterred]

Nigel Farage

[i_ateallthepies]

The ability to sound like they talk well and with sense is a fundamental prerequisite to be a politician these days (with the possible exception of a few), I think the question was more about which politicians do we trust.

[not on facebook]

As stated above

I like how the PM Theresa May has set her stall out and sounds.but you just know a scandall will come out sooner or later that will have country or opposition in up roar.

One trait that fcuks me off by whatever politician is the stance that they never admit they was wrong

also when they are on a sticky wicket or back foot they allways answer a question with a question and do upmost to deflect the question in question

[Glyn_Wigley]

Theresa May has done nothing but waffle whenever I've heard her, it's like she's pretending to answer PMQs 24/7. I still have no idea where she really stands on just about anything, and this is after over six months as Prime Minister!

[Lipsy]

I'm not sure I agree with the broad strokes being used regarding politicians. One of my best friends was an MP and he worked his 'nads off from a very early age (canvassing and the like), studied politics at a comprehensive school/college, did a degree in politics at Uni in Wales and then went into local government in England before eventually winning his seat back in his hometown in Cornwall. Sure, some could argue that he hadn't worked really worked at the coalface outside of politics, but he grafted from his early teens and into very nearly his forties (he lost his seat in the last election, having served two terms) but by then had become the Parliamentary Under-Secretary. Even now, out of office, he continues to support local causes and campaigns for his party (not necessarily to further his cause but to champion things he believes in). I'm not willing to believe that there aren't others currently sitting in the HoP that don't have similar stories to tell - above and beyond simply serving themselves...

The way I see it, too many politicians appear to be at the whim of social media/trends/recent polls (the ones that tell parties what they feel about certain situations, not the ones that find out which way people intend to vote in the next General Election). Where are the politicians with a backbone - the ones who truly vote for what they believe is right for the country? We have a few senior politicians in the twilight of their careers that seem to do this, but there aren't many outside of that.

To cross threads (as it were), we also have a big problem with the fact that Westminster means f'all to too many. Want to point and sneer at Nuttall for his fabrications. Go ahead, but it won't stop people voting for UKIP because its message is speaking to people. There's a massive disconnect that parties like UKIP can tap into which means that they can say and do what they like with little fear of recrimination... Worrying.

And what about the press? I read an article online today and it described certain parts of our press in this country as having a radicalising effect on us. It focused on the usual suspects (newspaper-wise), but most of them are at it. I hadn't really thought about it that way, but it does make sense because it shuts down discussion and debate and now - more worrying - controls the way we vote. Just how much power does Murdoch and et al wield? Too many unelected media moguls have the country - and Westminster - by the balls, which in turn neuters politicians...
 

[RedJ]

Enoch Powell

And the award for least surprising statement in human history goes to...

[MachoMadness]

The thing with politicians is, when they do their job properly things run smoothly and you don't seem to notice them. Naturally they only make the news when they hire a rent boy or say something racist or something.

Theresa May is like the other side of the coin to Trump. They match perfectly. Donald Trump will say anything to win a vote, whereas Theresa May pointedly never says anything to try and win votes. She steadfastly avoids taking a position on anything and speaks solely in meaningless soundbites. Both approaches are equally useless but sadly both seem to be effective at winning votes.

To end on a positive. Clive Lewis comes across well, future Labour leader material. Dennis Skinner is a man I respect immensely. Mhairi Black also speaks very well and is a true straight-talking politician.

[RedJ]

Mhairi Black is just Sturgeon lite. Few months ago, I forget what the issue was but she was tearing into the British government only for it to be discovered that the issue at hand was a devolved matter.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The thing with politicians is, when they do their job properly things run smoothly and you don't seem to notice them. Naturally they only make the news when they hire a rent boy or say something racist or something.

Theresa May is like the other side of the coin to Trump. They match perfectly. Donald Trump will say anything to win a vote, whereas Theresa May pointedly never says anything to try and win votes. She steadfastly avoids taking a position on anything and speaks solely in meaningless soundbites. Both approaches are equally useless but sadly both seem to be effective at winning votes.

To end on a positive. Clive Lewis comes across well, future Labour leader material. Dennis Skinner is a man I respect immensely. Mhairi Black also speaks very well and is a true straight-talking politician.

May says nothing not to win votes but to avoid losing them..!

[MachoMadness]

Fair point - I suppose she hasn't had to win a single vote yet, has she?

[drfchound]

Well she must have won some votes somewhere to become an MP in the first place.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Well she must have won some votes somewhere to become an MP in the first place.

Like all the Doncaster Labour MPs have to? lol

[wilts rover]

Question for the politics experts, hmmm that is certainly not me but anyway,

I admire any politician who is prepared to speak and act to gain the maximum benefit for the greatest number of people in our society, particuarly those who no fault of their own are disadvantaged and on the margins.

[Yargo]

Mhairi Black also speaks very well and is a true straight-talking politician.

Except the logic of the SNP position leads to the opposite of what she would like to see,the very opposite

[Yargo]

You know that very nice pro EU SNP?http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/settler-watch-extremist-links-tartan-9834853

[wing commander]

   There still isn't much balance to this thread is there...Glynn for instance is quite happy to lambast May because lets face it no matter what she said She's a Tory so what she says is irrelevant to him as she's wrong.,he mentions pmq's but she has battered Corbyn in every one,and that he doesn't know what she stands for yet I haven't a clue what Labour policys are because they have none they will admit.... and I say that as a political neutral waiting to be convinced either way...The best politician I've come across was Ian Cawsey ex labour mp..I didn't always agree with him but he was straight and passionate and worked dam hard for the local area...

[Glyn_Wigley]

   There still isn't much balance to this thread is there...Glynn for instance is quite happy to lambast May because lets face it no matter what she said She's a Tory so what she says is irrelevant to him as she's wrong.,he mentions pmq's but she has battered Corbyn in every one,and that he doesn't know what she stands for yet I haven't a clue what Labour policys are because they have none they will admit.... and I say that as a political neutral waiting to be convinced either way...The best politician I've come across was Ian Cawsey ex labour mp..I didn't always agree with him but he was straight and passionate and worked dam hard for the local area...

I've talked about May because she says NOTHING. And she does that at PMQs by evading the issue, one method of which is to have a go at Corbyn INSTEAD OF ANSWERING THE QUESTION. I thought PMQs were supposed to be about Parliament holding the PM to account, not about avoiding giving an answer by any means possible, or 'battering' the questioner.

I agree with you about Corbyn and his lack of direction regarding Labour policy. However, he's not running the country or ever likely to. May is.

If you want balance, I think John McDonnell is a gobshite and should be nowhere near the Shadow Cabinet. That do you?

[RedJ]

And to involve our devolved partners in all this, Sturgeon is a self serving Kitson.

[BobG]

And English politicians are not? There are some spectacular examples around at the moment Red: think Boris, think la May to name just two.  On the opposition benches think Jeremy Corbyn and think John McDonnell.

Those 4 are waay waaaay more self serving that Sturgeon. They've all tied themselves in knots hitching their wagons to the various bandwagons that serve their personal interests rather than the country's.

Cheers

BobG

[Bentley Bullet]

Bob, do you honestly think the likes of Boris need politics to make money?

[RedJ]

And English politicians are not?

Now now, I didn't say that.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Bob, do you honestly think the likes of Boris need politics to make money?

Who said anything about money? With Boris it's all about his ego as far as I can see.

[Bentley Bullet]

You said that without moving your lips, Bob!

OK then. If it's all about Boris's ego, He must be popular in order for him to sustain his desired ego. Does that mean you're in the minority in your negative opinion of him?