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Fools that are like minded as redj don't help with his outlook ''funny how your quick to assume it's a Muslim attack"

a different mind set is needed not just from redj and friends but fcuking t**ts like Diane Kitsoning Abbott who wants to wipe all criminal records from the data base ffs. > she should be hung drawn a quartered and her head slapped up on a gate post into London for treason to the British public.

If Labour was in would they uphold the shoot to kill policy?
I expect the liberals would not.

as for 1% of mosques been on the wrong side of the line it's a lot more than that.

Iam still waiting for the day when I see thousands of normall  muslims walking down whatever city street in protest against the extreme Muslims .

7 people killed last night and 48 injured and Thad thanks to the very quick police response as they had armed officers on duty and unarmed officers all over London.

How many would have died if this had happened say in Doncaster ? as that will be there next target .at the moment it's just ones that live in major city's that feal the need to watch over their shoulders .

But after extreme Muslims have hit smaller towns across the U.K. then that will send amount looking over their shoulders into space.

Bally1950 and Glynn hit the nail on the head with lack of  community police ,so that lands on conservatives door steps but if Labour got in they would put more police on the beat and at same time invite more possible extreme Muslims to live in the U.K. Via its open door policy.

Iam happy that 3 of the extreme were shot dead last night ,but unhappy that it seems a passer by got shot dead going on reports but you can't blame the armed police for that poor passer by.

When the government was keeping tabs on the ira the numbers they had a very close eye on was no more than 100 .

The 3000 extreme Muslims on that list today and the 20,000 not on the list shows the job whatever government is up against > another reason not to vote Labour if Abbott gets her way.

The government and police have kept 3000 to 5000 football hooligans
under controll at any one time over the last 10 years with threat of been thrown in jail if you break your terms ,and they do .

Why do I get the impression that if a extreme Muslim was put under same type of controll orders there be untold wet nosed spunk stains from within the far left up in arms

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Fair enough points Sproty but what it should emphasise is how vital it is we have a deal with the EU so that we retain our access to the EU Police Information database and have joint security arrangements with them.

If Iam not correct it's the USA Canada U.K. Australia and New Zealand that have all access to the cream of cream security data on terror .these 5 country's happily share what info they have amongst each other via whatever treaty .

Don't quite understand why rest of Europe is not involved in this but I guess it's down to trust or possible leaks but I could be wrong.

The yanks allways seem to be warning their tourists about whatever possible hotspots way before us all.

[Sprotyrover]

Fair enough points Sproty but what it should emphasise is how vital it is we have a deal with the EU so that we retain our access to the EU Police Information database and have joint security arrangements with them.

Wilts I understand the Schengen information sharing agreement is stand alone, it has nothing to do with us trading eith EU countries.

[glosterred]

If you're a suspected football hooligan you get passport confiscated and movements restricted, and these extremist f**kers are allowed to roam around freely, total f**king madness!

We're OK though, your mate Jeremy will have a chat with them....

Hardly the time for Political point scoring is it, but then again a Tory never passes up a chance to get a dig in

And neither would labour if they got the chance, they're all the same

[ballysbackin]

The Tories will make the country safer will they? Is it not stating the blindly obvious again that they have been in power for 7 years and the attacks are getting more frequent.

Removing control orders on terrorist suspects so they can go fight for MI6 in Libya. Cutting community policing by 20000 so the police dont have contacts and dont know whats going on in these communities. Cutting police budgets by 4% each year so those who are left have less resources.

Selling arms to the Saudis and Turkey - which then find there way to ISIS.

Increasing our involvement in foreign wars with no idea or plan for a political settlement afterwards.

This is all without the decling job prospects and increasing racial hatred against foreign communities in this time that acts as a recruiter.

Do you not think decisions like that have consequences?

Go on. Vote for 5 years more of that and 5 years more decline, poverty, isolation and cuts if you want. Where is the Tory plan to make our country better and safer, I haven't seen it. All I have seen are plans to make the rich, richer and budgets cheaper.

Oh but Jeremy Corbyn wont drop a nuclear bomb on them!!!

Wilts just on your first line. Yes the Tories wil do something, they will continue to try whereas the Pacifists in other parties will lay down, if this knocks on your door after Thursday just see who you will blame if Fairy parties get in power, I shall now read the rest of yours

[ballysbackin]

One more point from me the government needs to answer. Why were terrorist threat levels reduced last week? What does this show about the intelligene capability to keep us safe?

I agree with you Wilts - there was a show of strentgh over the Bank Holiday and then it was refuced but they did say another attack was highly likely. Now this is not an argument because I think it is the only answer. My question to you is -Would you be agreeable to Police being armed as well as having Military walking the streets,? just for debate

[Sprotyrover]

Just been looking at the Cheif Constables financial report online you can then download a 'Workforce planning' document Current strength in South Yorks is 2450 Officers a reduction of 400 since 2011' they can reduce to 2200 but 2019 to reach their 'Efficiency target'.
Chuffing spiders! When and who said SYP were efficient! It's like the Emporers new Suit in their workforce planning department.

And here is me thinking voting Tory is the best option!

[Glyn_Wigley]

The Tories will make the country safer will they? Is it not stating the blindly obvious again that they have been in power for 7 years and the attacks are getting more frequent.

Removing control orders on terrorist suspects so they can go fight for MI6 in Libya. Cutting community policing by 20000 so the police dont have contacts and dont know whats going on in these communities. Cutting police budgets by 4% each year so those who are left have less resources.

Selling arms to the Saudis and Turkey - which then find there way to ISIS.

Increasing our involvement in foreign wars with no idea or plan for a political settlement afterwards.

This is all without the decling job prospects and increasing racial hatred against foreign communities in this time that acts as a recruiter.

Do you not think decisions like that have consequences?

Go on. Vote for 5 years more of that and 5 years more decline, poverty, isolation and cuts if you want. Where is the Tory plan to make our country better and safer, I haven't seen it. All I have seen are plans to make the rich, richer and budgets cheaper.

Oh but Jeremy Corbyn wont drop a nuclear bomb on them!!!

Wilts just on your first line. Yes the Tories wil do something, they will continue to try whereas the Pacifists in other parties will lay down, if this knocks on your door after Thursday just see who you will blame if Fairy parties get in power, I shall now read the rest of yours

Yes, the Tories are setting up a Commission to wave in their faces.

I'd rather have the extra feet on the ground that Labour want to have.

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In her speach today outside No10 may used the term 'jihadi Islamists'

that's the first time I recall her ever using that term as all leaders apart from trump have been side stepping this issue .

So basically she in public  had just said what tommy Robinson has been saying on a public stage since 2011  and he got deemed a racist and bigot by many.

As for the army and armed police been out on the streets 24/24  and 7/7 iam  happy with that .

[Glyn_Wigley]

Just been looking at the Cheif Constables financial report online you can then download a 'Workforce planning' document Current strength in South Yorks is 2450 Officers a reduction of 400 since 2011' they can reduce to 2200 but 2019 to reach their 'Efficiency target'.
Chuffing spiders! When and who said SYP were efficient! It's like the Emporers new Suit in their workforce planning department.

And here is me thinking voting Tory is the best option!

If you think 'efficiency target' or that other old chestnut 'efficiency savings' are anything to do with efficiency then you've fallen for the BS. When you hear a politician say they've identified 'efficiency savings' they've done no such thing. What they've identified is the cuts they can make in - in this case - the Police budget. They have no idea how those savings are to be made or what effect they will have, all they care about is cutting the money. They pass the buck down the ladder to the person who gets the reduced budget and when things go tits up because the service deteriorates, it's also the Police's fault not theirs.

[Sprotyrover]

Might look at the Met one if it rains!🚀

[Sprotyrover]

OMG Jessie Corbyn not happy with the shoot to kill policy re Terrorist attacks!
But it's alright for them to kill people on our streets!

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OMG Jessie Corbyn not happy with the shoot to kill policy re Terrorist attacks!
But it's alright for them to kill people on our streets!

Please tell me that this is not true

Corbyn and like minded are a fcuking  disgrace .

His comments if true on shot to kill will cost him any chance in the elections

[Filo]

The first Police officer on the scene took on all three terrorists, he's now in a serious condition in hospital. Now if that Police Officer was armed as all Police Officers should be, those three scumbags would probably have been wasted earlier and potentially daved lives

[ballysbackin]

Just been looking at the Cheif Constables financial report online you can then download a 'Workforce planning' document Current strength in South Yorks is 2450 Officers a reduction of 400 since 2011' they can reduce to 2200 but 2019 to reach their 'Efficiency target'.
Chuffing spiders! When and who said SYP were efficient! It's like the Emporers new Suit in their workforce planning department.

And here is me thinking voting Tory is the best option!

I served 1974 to 2001 and there were only 2600 total now if you divide that total into a quarter you get 645 per shift for the total county THEN take away how many? that were in offices etc and I bet you would be struggling for 400 for the County, so they altered shifts to 12 hours which would give at most 600 per shift.  When I was walking Bawtry on nights, there were on several occasions no cars at Rossington with drivers and the nearest car was Armthorpe or Edlington OR Harworth which was in Notts.  Nothing has really changed, the numbers are defined by population. BUT that was before Govt cut backs.  I hope this helps

[DonnyOsmond]

It was a comment from November. He's said the police saved lives today and he can probably see that 3 men with suicide vests on needed shooting, you couldn't arrest them. The right wing are just using something he said months ago when last night was a bit different situation to the France attacks he was asked about.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

If you're a suspected football hooligan you get passport confiscated and movements restricted, and these extremist f**kers are allowed to roam around freely, total f**king madness!

We're OK though, your mate Jeremy will have a chat with them....

Hardly the time for Political point scoring is it, but then again a Tory never passes up a chance to get a dig in

Actually it's exactly the time. It's the time where the country needs to know what the people wanting to set these rules and laws actually think and would do.

[Herbert Anchovy]

Why is there this perpetual myth that the Tories are the party of law and order? It's utter bollox. Between March 2010 and 2015 police numbers were cut by 12% which equates to around 17,000 officers by the Tory government.

Experts in this field acknowledge that community policing is vital to defeating terrorism and yet they continue to cut back. Also, it should be pointed out that the highest number of police officers in the UK was in 2009 when Labour were in power. Still trust the Tories?

Anyway, none of this will help the poor buggers who were attacked last night.

[ballysbackin]

Herbert. You are so right with your final sentence...Sadly nothing can help those poor souls. May they Rest in Peace

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  next place to get attacked will be a polling station when votes are been cast .

[Sprotyrover]

It was a comment from November. He's said the police saved lives today and he can probably see that 3 men with suicide vests on needed shooting, you couldn't arrest them. The right wing are just using something he said months ago when last night was a bit different situation to the France attacks he was asked about.

Donny the little twit has been saying stuff like this all of his life, he is not fit to be a British citizen.
He needs to get his sad little self over to Raqqa and talk some sense into Isis, and take a few of his mates with him,Diane Abbot John McDonnel etc,
And while they're at it Teresa May can go along too.!

[Sprotyrover]

Just been looking at the Cheif Constables financial report online you can then download a 'Workforce planning' document Current strength in South Yorks is 2450 Officers a reduction of 400 since 2011' they can reduce to 2200 but 2019 to reach their 'Efficiency target'.
Chuffing spiders! When and who said SYP were efficient! It's like the Emporers new Suit in their workforce planning department.

And here is me thinking voting Tory is the best option!

I served 1974 to 2001 and there were only 2600 total now if you divide that total into a quarter you get 645 per shift for the total county THEN take away how many? that were in offices etc and I bet you would be struggling for 400 for the County, so they altered shifts to 12 hours which would give at most 600 per shift.  When I was walking Bawtry on nights, there were on several occasions no cars at Rossington with drivers and the nearest car was Armthorpe or Edlington OR Harworth which was in Notts.  Nothing has really changed, the numbers are defined by population. BUT that was before Govt cut backs.  I hope this helps

Bally there are 2,450 Police officer in SYP not 2,600

[CrippyCooke]

OMG Jessie Corbyn not happy with the shoot to kill policy re Terrorist attacks!
But it's alright for them to kill people on our streets!

Please tell me that this is not true

Corbyn and like minded are a fcuking  disgrace .

His comments if true on shot to kill will cost him any chance in the elections

The BBC Trust investigated this story on Corbyn and found it to be inaccurate and partisan. Laura Kuenssberg (the BBC journalist who reported the story) clearly doesn't like Labour or Jeremy Corbyn.

[roversdude]

RIGHT...I DO NOT CARE IF THIS OFFENDS

The ones involved are products of "Free Speech" They are the products of " Cowards in this Country who do not dare to stand up to such atrocities people like Corbyn and also the leader of Lib Dems, like it or not Farage was right. Trump is right "PUT OUR OWN COUNTRY FIRST" The actions this last fortnight will win the Election for the Tories and I will tell you why. They are the only party who are saying "they are killing us so we kill them" They have given the Police the right to shoot to kill and Corbyn  says Trident? is not needed. What is needed to any lily  fairies is a strong policy - Bring back all overseas personnel from all BFPO except Gib and Falklands, defend this country from within, there is sufficient MOD properties vacant that can rehouse them and let them spend their money in England instead of foreign economies, stop all overseas aid to corrupt countries or those who home Terrorists.

The military to assist Police in Patrols (If it offends people tough) If the baddie kills people around you then I kill the baddie are you going to scream for my blood or shall I let them towards you and let them kill you or your children,

NOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE NOW THINKING THE SAME, OR SHOULD WE IGNORE THE POOR VICTIMS, how much longer before their is an atrocities and attacks on Christians whilst attending a Sunday Service,

THE TORIES WILL WIN THIS ELECTION BECAUSE IF THEY DO NOT THIS COUNTRY WILL BE IN A WORSE STATE THAN EVER - SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO GET A GRIP AND IMO THERESA MAY IS GETTING IT RIGHT. She fighting an election and is trying to clear the path to dump the Europeans, to get our own Bill of Rights and not cower to the Germans or French.   This is for discussion and I have not really read much of the points as above because my mind was already made up as soon as I read the headlines this morning

Now next season there will be searches of fans going into grounds, The fairies will not like it and complain as they have done on the Black Bank this season, but who is to blame????? Well as I have posted elsewhere, all of us, for closing our eyes and not wanting to be seen as a squealer  or a Grasser.

Well despite all this and believe me I have no mercy for the scum who are dealing in death, I shall now go to Mass this morning with my daughter because all I really have is my religion,Nobody will take that away..


NEVER MIND COMMENTS SUCH AS "WELL YOU WERE A COPPER BLAH BLAH BLAH" I am no longer a Policeman and my views either in the Police or now have never been different.  Corbyn says he has never had a meeting with the IRA but admits speaking with Sinn Fein, err Adams and Mc Guinness were leaders of the Political Branch of the IRA
 

Nothing offensive there Bally agree with all that
We tiptoe around in case we offend people

[i_ateallthepies]

OMG Jessie Corbyn not happy with the shoot to kill policy re Terrorist attacks!
But it's alright for them to kill people on our streets!

Please tell me that this is not true

Corbyn and like minded are a fcuking  disgrace .

His comments if true on shot to kill will cost him any chance in the elections

The BBC Trust investigated this story on Corbyn and found it to be inaccurate and partisan. Laura Kuenssberg (the BBC journalist who reported the story) clearly doesn't like Labour or Jeremy Corbyn.

She's poison when it comes to reporting on Corbyn, or Labour in general for that matter.  I thought news reporting was supposed to deal with fact but she's very adept at presenting her opinion and making it sound like she is reporting facts.

[drfc1951]

It was a comment from November. He's said the police saved lives today and he can probably see that 3 men with suicide vests on needed shooting, you couldn't arrest them. The right wing are just using something he said months ago when last night was a bit different situation to the France attacks he was asked about.

The right wing media have been stuff like this for years, trouble is guillible people read this crap and believe everything that is written.

[MachoMadness]

I don't necessarily agree that Kuenssberg is as biased against Corbyn, however she seems to have an eye for a tabloid headline and isn't afraid to twist the facts to create a story where there isn't one. The Corbyn shoot-to-kill story is one notable example of that, where Corbyn's answer was essentially edited onto a different question to create a story out of nothing. You expect it from the tabloids, not from the BBC though.

[RedJ]

Fools that are like minded as redj don't help with his outlook ''funny how your quick to assume it's a Muslim attack"

Sorry but just because someone's attacked others and I don't automatically assume "Muslim" I need a different outlook on life? alright pal.

[wilts rover]

Fair enough points Sproty but what it should emphasise is how vital it is we have a deal with the EU so that we retain our access to the EU Police Information database and have joint security arrangements with them.

Wilts I understand the Schengen information sharing agreement is stand alone, it has nothing to do with us trading eith EU countries.

I took the info from here Sproty. The problem is we dont know what effect No Deal is going to have and if it will put things like access to that database at risk. If we are not paying to keep it running etc...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-election-2017-tories-eu-data-sharing-scheme-risks-pulling-out-warning-a7769876.html

[roversdude]

It was a comment from November. He's said the police saved lives today and he can probably see that 3 men with suicide vests on needed shooting, you couldn't arrest them. The right wing are just using something he said months ago when last night was a bit different situation to the France attacks he was asked about.

Donny with respect you spout some shite