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I don't have to because the population would flat line as it did prior to 1991
And what it says about births in 2014 is that 27% of children were born to mothers who themselves were not born in the U.K.
The difference between births and deaths is approx 200,00, 700,00 births and 500,000 deaths take away 27% from the births,the difference is 50 k per annum so I haven't got a lot to worry about for at least a life time!
Of course in this day and age there is going to be more births than deaths but not to the extent the population shot upAdd to that most British families have one maybe two kids and then look at how many kids other families have and expect us to support
Quote from: Sprotyrover on June 24, 2017, 05:10:00 pmThe difference between births and deaths is approx 200,00, 700,00 births and 500,000 deaths take away 27% from the births,the difference is 50 k per annum so I haven't got a lot to worry about for at least a life time!You're still avoiding giving an answer though - what would you expect to be done when the population grows to that amount again - or even before it gets to that amount, as you seem to think it's too many as it is? What do you think is the optimum maximum population for the UK, the tipping point before the country gets 'overcrowded'?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 24, 2017, 05:20:56 pmQuote from: Sprotyrover on June 24, 2017, 05:10:00 pmThe difference between births and deaths is approx 200,00, 700,00 births and 500,000 deaths take away 27% from the births,the difference is 50 k per annum so I haven't got a lot to worry about for at least a life time!You're still avoiding giving an answer though - what would you expect to be done when the population grows to that amount again - or even before it gets to that amount, as you seem to think it's too many as it is? What do you think is the optimum maximum population for the UK, the tipping point before the country gets 'overcrowded'?I have answered your question what on earth are you rabbiting on about?
How many of your 6 million work in the NHS, care homes, agriculture, service industries... or are you going to get the remaining pensioners back out of retirement picking strawberries and wiping a***s?https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/22/farms-hit-by-labour-shortage-as-migrant-workers-shun-racist-ukThe Black Death was a world wide plague by the way, it didnt move people from one country to another - just rats. And was notable for being spreading false ideas and rumours in how to stop it.
Quote from: wilts rover on June 25, 2017, 10:47:55 amHow many of your 6 million work in the NHS, care homes, agriculture, service industries... or are you going to get the remaining pensioners back out of retirement picking strawberries and wiping a***s?https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/22/farms-hit-by-labour-shortage-as-migrant-workers-shun-racist-ukThe Black Death was a world wide plague by the way, it didnt move people from one country to another - just rats. And was notable for being spreading false ideas and rumours in how to stop it.You break it down and tell me Wilts, you are insinuating that we are a society which is dependant on cheap imported labour being paid the minimum wage and on zero hours contracts, the skilled folks we employ have been coaxed away from Third world countries where their skills are needed, how fair is that.Migrant fruit pickers are staying away because now we have a weak pound they can earn more in France and Germany.
Because they are on the minimum wage they don't contribute anything in tax
because as I said the 6 million aren't paying tax at the moment
If you're smart enough you can use statistics to support any argument that you want. So, to simplify things I'll base my judgment on my own personal experience. I've worked with many immigrants over the past few years. The majority were sound, one or two were arseholes. However, without exception each one of them worked their bollox off and paid their taxes, so contributed to the economy of the UK. Can I say the same about all the English fellas I've worked with? No chance! Again, from my experience while many are sound, a significant proportion are lazy bas**rds, think that the world owes them a living, aren't willing to put themselves out, chuck sickies, don't turn up for work and can generally be complete pains in the arse.
employers treat their staff with little regard as there are plenty more where you came from is now the norm,look at the recent carry on a sports direct they are typical of so many firms today,that just doesn't value it's workforce.
Iam not one for tracking down what whoever puts up as Iam happy with face value and above as value.