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Quote from: MrFrost on September 17, 2017, 10:02:57 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on September 17, 2017, 10:01:37 pmQuote from: phil old leake on September 17, 2017, 09:33:00 pmIf it's decided to replace DF then it will need to be someone wanting to improve themselves with something to offer. The Cowleys at Lincoln if they'd come but at the moment who's available with any kind of track record better than himIf this fictitious event to replace DF happens then the board who have backed the project then would have to admit they have failed aswell. No players bought for a transfer fee, bringing in young loan players to match their budget. If they got rid of DF any new manager would have to use the players we have and we may lose the loan players if their parent clubs cannot trust their development under a new manager.So we should keep the manager to ensure we keep the loan players who aren't performing? Do you believe by sacking DF and bringing in a new manager the players we have will perform better. Do you believe the owners will provide more funds to the new manager to bring in better players, when we couldn't afford them on our " competitive budget" in the summer. The project was to get young players who could be developed into a good side it was always going to be risky until they gelled together. Losing key players as not helped that strategy. Not Saying DF is always right but he's working with players and resources the club can afford.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on September 17, 2017, 10:01:37 pmQuote from: phil old leake on September 17, 2017, 09:33:00 pmIf it's decided to replace DF then it will need to be someone wanting to improve themselves with something to offer. The Cowleys at Lincoln if they'd come but at the moment who's available with any kind of track record better than himIf this fictitious event to replace DF happens then the board who have backed the project then would have to admit they have failed aswell. No players bought for a transfer fee, bringing in young loan players to match their budget. If they got rid of DF any new manager would have to use the players we have and we may lose the loan players if their parent clubs cannot trust their development under a new manager.So we should keep the manager to ensure we keep the loan players who aren't performing?
Quote from: phil old leake on September 17, 2017, 09:33:00 pmIf it's decided to replace DF then it will need to be someone wanting to improve themselves with something to offer. The Cowleys at Lincoln if they'd come but at the moment who's available with any kind of track record better than himIf this fictitious event to replace DF happens then the board who have backed the project then would have to admit they have failed aswell. No players bought for a transfer fee, bringing in young loan players to match their budget. If they got rid of DF any new manager would have to use the players we have and we may lose the loan players if their parent clubs cannot trust their development under a new manager.
If it's decided to replace DF then it will need to be someone wanting to improve themselves with something to offer. The Cowleys at Lincoln if they'd come but at the moment who's available with any kind of track record better than him
You don't have to type out it again I understood it first time. There is an amount of money that club is prepared to spend. Where that takes us we will wait and see.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on September 18, 2017, 06:55:55 pmYou don't have to type out it again I understood it first time. There is an amount of money that club is prepared to spend. Where that takes us we will wait and see.Actually I don't think you do. Using phrases such as 'bringing in young loan players to match our budget' more than implies that our budget isn't very good when the opposite is true. If I was an owner of this club I would be mortified to think my £2m contribution each year was so easily overlooked. We are serious contenders in this division, we just need to show it.
I'm in the "Fergie in" camp so I want him to stay for at least 15 games and this isn't one of threads where I say there isn't anyone to replace him, just wonder who people would want? Justin Edinburgh?
Quote from: silent majority on September 18, 2017, 09:27:35 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on September 18, 2017, 06:55:55 pmYou don't have to type out it again I understood it first time. There is an amount of money that club is prepared to spend. Where that takes us we will wait and see.Actually I don't think you do. Using phrases such as 'bringing in young loan players to match our budget' more than implies that our budget isn't very good when the opposite is true. If I was an owner of this club I would be mortified to think my £2m contribution each year was so easily overlooked. We are serious contenders in this division, we just need to show it. Whist I agree that the contribution of the owners is, sadly, overlooked by many of our fans SM I have to disagree with your statement that "phrases such as 'bringing in young loan players to match our budget' more than implies that our budget isn't very good". The fact that we have to bring in loan players is indicative of the type of budget we have. Whilst I would never ask, or even expect, our owners to put in a penny more than they do it is a question of fact that if the budget was significantly higher we would be signing these players, (or their equivalent), and bringing them on for our future benefit and not that of the loaning club. Given who we are and where we are right now we, quite correctly, cut our cloth according to our means. That shouldn't be seen as anything other than is is, a practical necessity.
There really are some first class tossers supporting Rovers. Mind you, it's always been the case. Personally I think sacking Ferguson now would be madness. As if that magically turns things around. Shows the level of comprehension of some of our so called supporters. f**king ridiculous attitudes from some folks. Armchair managers the lot of them.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on September 19, 2017, 09:44:07 amQuote from: silent majority on September 18, 2017, 09:27:35 pmQuote from: steve@dcfd on September 18, 2017, 06:55:55 pmYou don't have to type out it again I understood it first time. There is an amount of money that club is prepared to spend. Where that takes us we will wait and see.Actually I don't think you do. Using phrases such as 'bringing in young loan players to match our budget' more than implies that our budget isn't very good when the opposite is true. If I was an owner of this club I would be mortified to think my £2m contribution each year was so easily overlooked. We are serious contenders in this division, we just need to show it. Whist I agree that the contribution of the owners is, sadly, overlooked by many of our fans SM I have to disagree with your statement that "phrases such as 'bringing in young loan players to match our budget' more than implies that our budget isn't very good". The fact that we have to bring in loan players is indicative of the type of budget we have. Whilst I would never ask, or even expect, our owners to put in a penny more than they do it is a question of fact that if the budget was significantly higher we would be signing these players, (or their equivalent), and bringing them on for our future benefit and not that of the loaning club. Given who we are and where we are right now we, quite correctly, cut our cloth according to our means. That shouldn't be seen as anything other than is is, a practical necessity.Sorry Not Know Kato, but you and Steve are still looking at this from the wrong angle. Bringing in loan players is not indicative of the state of our budget but is very much indicative of the current state of English football. Every club in the lower leagues is relying on loan players to a lesser or greater degree. If we chose to buck that trend and sign these players with transfer payments and signing on fees our budget would have to be twice the size it is and twice the size of other clubs in this division. And the advantage in terms of results would be a big fat zero. We would have exactly the same, or similar players, with a very similar size of squad but with the disadvantage of having to finance it all ourself. Signing young loan players is maximising our budget not an indication our budget isn't competitive or inadequate. Other clubs are doing exactly the same.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on September 17, 2017, 06:49:17 pmI'm in the "Fergie in" camp so I want him to stay for at least 15 games and this isn't one of threads where I say there isn't anyone to replace him, just wonder who people would want? Justin Edinburgh?Then why start such a negative thread ?