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Glyn_Wigley

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Re: brexit-poll-new-eu-leave-regret-remain-yougov-times-poll
« Reply #30 on October 20, 2017, 09:49:09 am by Glyn_Wigley »
The argument now being used by the Brickshitters is that extra revenue from  imports from the EU will simply be collected by HMRC under WTO trading rules . I can't see how that affects the German / French/ Italian car importers - we NEED  their product  and will see cars being sold at inflated prices and ......we will still buy them  !

"Brickshitters" aye, not bad coming from a bloke who says "Remoaners" is a childish word!

How will we buy cars at inflated prices when we're all skint because of the effects of Brexit?

Demand will obviously go down because of the 10% Customs Duty on cars. Unfortunately, because it works both ways the demand for British cars exported to the EU will also go down for the same reason. Only in that case it'll be in 27 countries, not just the one.



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« Reply #31 on October 20, 2017, 09:57:18 am by hoolahoop »
Demand won't go down significantly as many cars are not only for private use but also for company use.
What do the companies buy just American, Japanese or Korean ?
Trust me private owners that buy German cars for instance will still buy and exchange the every 2/3 years . E.g. An Audi buyer doesn't suddenly become a Toyota owner. Brand loyalty is that strong with the German makes regardless of price. New cars will be dearer ergo 2nd hand cars will be too . I know this market.

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« Reply #32 on October 20, 2017, 10:00:40 am by hoolahoop »
The argument now being used by the Brickshitters is that extra revenue from  imports from the EU will simply be collected by HMRC under WTO trading rules . I can't see how that affects the German / French/ Italian car importers - we NEED  their product  and will see cars being sold at inflated prices and ......we will still buy them  !

"Brickshitters" aye, not bad coming from a bloke who says "Remoaners" is a childish word!

How will we buy cars at inflated prices when we're all skint because of the effects of Brexit?

Come on allow me one occasion to use a stupid title it was meant in jest and to provoke a reaction ....it worked.  We've had more than a year of that  " moaner " nonsense ;)

We will give up some of those inflated foods we eat to provide the debt for the cars. After all have you seen the level of both the individual's and the nation's debt ....a bit more won't hurt .
« Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 10:05:58 am by hoolahoop »

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« Reply #33 on October 20, 2017, 10:35:59 am by Bentley Bullet »
Fair comment, Hoola! We've certainly had more than a year of that 'moaner' nonsense. It's just that I was hoping you'd have given it a rest by now.

Perhaps your idea for funding the inflated car prices will have its good points after all - A healthier, less obese post-Brexit nation.

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« Reply #34 on October 20, 2017, 10:41:23 am by hoolahoop »
Haha just think of the savings for the NHS  . No I remain steadfast in the face of this nonsense for personal reasons too . I have a daughter who is planning on studying at Copenhagen university for a year. I will be happier when and if agreements could be met on student exchange, health cover , grants to study etc . I'm disappointed that an area like ours that has benefitted far more from EU membership that it otherwise would have done ; could ever point the finger of blame in the wrong direction.

Look at the EU backed infrastructure it surpasses every nation in the EU comfortably. I was at York university 18 months ago and the amount of EU backed infrastructure there alone was unbelieveable !
« Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 10:50:45 am by hoolahoop »

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« Reply #35 on October 20, 2017, 08:28:36 pm by Donnywolf »
I fervently hope that ultimately we will as a nation (4 Nations perhaps) be given the chance to vote on the "package" that has been secured so that people can make a more "informed" decision than perhaps they did in the bland / basic / do you wish to leave the EU Referendum ?

Before that vote we had no facts to work with. It was a crap campaign run by both sides. We had as many lies as people could tell ( £350 Million could be going to the NHS for example which was on the side of the "Out" campaigners Battle Bus). No side was immune from lies and scaremongering

A lot of people were quoted as saying that they thought the "foreigners" were over running us and the "out" side allowed people to think - indeed encouraged them to think that a Vote for out was a vote to rid us of all those people and to take control back of our Borders

It looks like that may not happen. There may be a deal / no deal / Soft b****t (I never use the word itself) Hard b****t (ditto) and they all MAY be different to each other and totally different to what the people who voted "out" might have wanted - so lets have a vote based on the actual reality that they produce and NOT on a simplistic version of what might happen

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« Reply #36 on October 20, 2017, 11:34:52 pm by idler »
The argument now being used by the Brickshitters is that extra revenue from  imports from the EU will simply be collected by HMRC under WTO trading rules . I can't see how that affects the German / French/ Italian car importers - we NEED  their product  and will see cars being sold at inflated prices and ......we will still buy them  !

"Brickshitters" aye, not bad coming from a bloke who says "Remoaners" is a childish word!

How will we buy cars at inflated prices when we're all skint because of the effects of Brexit?

Demand will obviously go down because of the 10% Customs Duty on cars. Unfortunately, because it works both ways the demand for British cars exported to the EU will also go down for the same reason. Only in that case it'll be in 27 countries, not just the one.
Foreign cars get too expensive then buy British built cars and keep British workers employed reducing the cost of imports and narrow the balance of payments. 😉

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« Reply #37 on October 20, 2017, 11:40:58 pm by IDM »
I fervently hope that ultimately we will as a nation (4 Nations perhaps) be given the chance to vote on the "package" that has been secured so that people can make a more "informed" decision than perhaps they did in the bland / basic / do you wish to leave the EU Referendum ?

Before that vote we had no facts to work with. It was a crap campaign run by both sides. We had as many lies as people could tell ( £350 Million could be going to the NHS for example which was on the side of the "Out" campaigners Battle Bus). No side was immune from lies and scaremongering

A lot of people were quoted as saying that they thought the "foreigners" were over running us and the "out" side allowed people to think - indeed encouraged them to think that a Vote for out was a vote to rid us of all those people and to take control back of our Borders

It looks like that may not happen. There may be a deal / no deal / Soft b****t (I never use the word itself) Hard b****t (ditto) and they all MAY be different to each other and totally different to what the people who voted "out" might have wanted - so lets have a vote based on the actual reality that they produce and NOT on a simplistic version of what might happen

That's how it should have been in the first place..

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« Reply #38 on October 21, 2017, 01:52:49 am by hoolahoop »
I fervently hope that ultimately we will as a nation (4 Nations perhaps) be given the chance to vote on the "package" that has been secured so that people can make a more "informed" decision than perhaps they did in the bland / basic / do you wish to leave the EU Referendum ?

Before that vote we had no facts to work with. It was a crap campaign run by both sides. We had as many lies as people could tell ( £350 Million could be going to the NHS for example which was on the side of the "Out" campaigners Battle Bus). No side was immune from lies and scaremongering

A lot of people were quoted as saying that they thought the "foreigners" were over running us and the "out" side allowed people to think - indeed encouraged them to think that a Vote for out was a vote to rid us of all those people and to take control back of our Borders

It looks like that may not happen. There may be a deal / no deal / Soft b****t (I never use the word itself) Hard b****t (ditto) and they all MAY be different to each other and totally different to what the people who voted "out" might have wanted - so lets have a vote based on the actual reality that they produce and NOT on a simplistic version of what might happen

That's how it should have been in the first place..

Agreed .

hoolahoop

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« Reply #39 on October 21, 2017, 01:54:29 am by hoolahoop »
The argument now being used by the Brickshitters is that extra revenue from  imports from the EU will simply be collected by HMRC under WTO trading rules . I can't see how that affects the German / French/ Italian car importers - we NEED  their product  and will see cars being sold at inflated prices and ......we will still buy them  !

"Brickshitters" aye, not bad coming from a bloke who says "Remoaners" is a childish word!

How will we buy cars at inflated prices when we're all skint because of the effects of Brexit?

Demand will obviously go down because of the 10% Customs Duty on cars. Unfortunately, because it works both ways the demand for British cars exported to the EU will also go down for the same reason. Only in that case it'll be in 27 countries, not just the one.
Foreign cars get too expensive then buy British built cars and keep British workers employed reducing the cost of imports and narrow the balance of payments. 😉

Which cars would they be exactly ?

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« Reply #40 on October 21, 2017, 08:05:07 am by Glyn_Wigley »
The argument now being used by the Brickshitters is that extra revenue from  imports from the EU will simply be collected by HMRC under WTO trading rules . I can't see how that affects the German / French/ Italian car importers - we NEED  their product  and will see cars being sold at inflated prices and ......we will still buy them  !

"Brickshitters" aye, not bad coming from a bloke who says "Remoaners" is a childish word!

How will we buy cars at inflated prices when we're all skint because of the effects of Brexit?

Demand will obviously go down because of the 10% Customs Duty on cars. Unfortunately, because it works both ways the demand for British cars exported to the EU will also go down for the same reason. Only in that case it'll be in 27 countries, not just the one.
Foreign cars get too expensive then buy British built cars and keep British workers employed reducing the cost of imports and narrow the balance of payments. 😉

So British people buying British cars are going to outweigh the loss of sales in 27 other countries, is it? Jeez. How is exporting less going to help the Balance of Payments too, eh?

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« Reply #41 on October 21, 2017, 08:43:40 am by wilts rover »
#BuyBritishHondas

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« Reply #42 on October 21, 2017, 10:05:49 am by Bentley Bullet »
Buy Blitish

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« Reply #43 on October 21, 2017, 10:28:36 am by hoolahoop »
I give up , the stupidity from the Mail/ Express/Sun prevails in the way we think as a nation . The distorted and dystopic vision they present as fact is endemic and is snapped up by our people in much the same way as chucking a piece of meat into a river teeming with piranha ! Facts , statistics , basic rules of economics / common sense, experts mean NOTHING  any longer . Pah who needs furriners .....feck'em all.

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« Reply #44 on October 21, 2017, 10:42:12 am by Bentley Bullet »
Talking of dystopia, have you walked through Hexthorpe lately?

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« Reply #45 on October 21, 2017, 07:31:56 pm by not on facebook »
Not lived in donny for last 20 years ,what’s happened to hexthorpe

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« Reply #46 on October 23, 2017, 01:58:39 pm by Not Now Kato »
Here's an interesting article, translated from the German newspaper it was published in, on the German perspective of how Brexit is currently going and how much it's likely to cost and affect the citizens of the UK.
 
https://medium.com/@ninaschick/brexit-negotiations-not-without-pain-cb3705974bd6
 
And people actually voted for this?   :evil:

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« Reply #47 on October 23, 2017, 08:40:52 pm by Muttley »
Not lived in donny for last 20 years ,what’s happened to hexthorpe

Fairly high immigrant population (but probably no higher than other areas close to the town centre eg Hyde Park, Beckett Road).

The EDL held a march there a couple of years ago so went down for a look-see.

When I arrived there was a few big blokes stood around, shaven heads, tattoos, pit bulls straining at the leash. "Aye aye" I thought "They're here already".

Just then the EDL came up the road and these blokes began hurling abuse at the EDL f**kwits.

Turns out these were local blokes (English) who were not happy with the EDL using Hexthorpe to make a racist point.

The EDL were all herded into a kids playground where they tried to listen to some speeches but they were mainly drowned out by a sizable crowd of protestors, both Hexthorpe locals and other right-minded Doncastrians. I suppose you could call them "antifa" but they didn't wear balaclavas, they were just ordinary folk.

At the end of the rally, the EDL fascists left the kids playground to march back to town - the heavy police operation nearly lost control at this point as the EDL were literally chased down the road by the local lads and the EDL were only saved from a bloody nose by the riot police drawing batons and sending in the dogs against the locals.


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« Reply #48 on October 23, 2017, 08:44:04 pm by RedJ »
No doubt they were lefties, I'm sure NOF will agree.

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« Reply #49 on October 23, 2017, 11:22:15 pm by Iberian Red »
Not lived in donny for last 20 years ,what’s happened to hexthorpe
Glue or alcohol?
Whatever you're talking b*llocks. In the 80s the NF tried doing it in Hexthorpe and got kicked all over town. In 2016 the EDL tried doing it and got kicked all over town. Same local lads were there.  I remember when I lived in Bentley having  to listen to similar shit from certain purple helmets.

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« Reply #50 on October 23, 2017, 11:31:32 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Not lived in donny for last 20 years ,what’s happened to hexthorpe
Glue or alcohol?
Whatever you're talking b*llocks. In the 80s the NF tried doing it in Hexthorpe and got kicked all over town. In 2016 the EDL tried doing it and got kicked all over town. Same local lads were there.  I remember when I lived in Bentley having  to listen to similar shit from certain purple helmets.

Presumably that's what happens when people who don't come from Hexthorpe try and call the place a shithole because of...people who don't come from Hexthorpe. I can well imagine the people who do come from Hexthorpe getting just a little bit pissed off by that.

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« Reply #51 on October 23, 2017, 11:57:34 pm by Bentley Bullet »
https://www.facebook.com/search/str/hexthorpe+%26+balby+residents+group/keywords_groups

I've just had to apply to become a member of the above fb page, so you'll have to stick with me if you want to find out more.

Of course, you can join yourselves.

 

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