Brexit Negotiations

[Bentley Bullet]

No it isn't. Everybody knows that wouldn't produce anything positive.

[BillyStubbsTears]

No BB. That's only a prediction by people who think about the likely consequences.

But what do they know? How many of them have ever chucked themselves off the North Bridge?

Who's to say the Heavenly Host wouldn't swoop down and save you?

[foxbat]

' heavenly host' is a very relevant metaphor. No Brexiteer has been even able to give me even 1fact related and verifiable positive outcome of Brexit.
Usually ends up with ' we won the war '

[Bentley Bullet]

No BB. That's only a prediction by people who think about the likely consequences.

But what do they know? How many of them have ever chucked themselves off the North Bridge?

Who's to say the Heavenly Host wouldn't swoop down and save you?

None of them have chucked themselves off North bridge because, based on fact it wouldn't produce anything positive. The consequenses of Brexit is based on opinion, not fact.

[Not Now Kato]

No BB. That's only a prediction by people who think about the likely consequences.

But what do they know? How many of them have ever chucked themselves off the North Bridge?

Who's to say the Heavenly Host wouldn't swoop down and save you?

None of them have chucked themselves off North bridge because, based on fact it wouldn't produce anything positive. The consequenses of Brexit is based on opinion, not fact.

So, the companies who say they have have moved all or part of their business from the UK to the EU because of Brexit is not based on fact, is not negative and that they are simply lying?

[BillyStubbsTears]

No BB. That's only a prediction by people who think about the likely consequences.

But what do they know? How many of them have ever chucked themselves off the North Bridge?

Who's to say the Heavenly Host wouldn't swoop down and save you?

None of them have chucked themselves off North bridge because, based on fact it wouldn't produce anything positive. The consequenses of Brexit is based on opinion, not fact.

How do YOU know nothing positive would come from it? They might learn to levitate. That would be marvellous.

Similarly, we've heard today that leaving the EU means our current Free Trade Agreements with Japan, Canada and Turkey will lapse, making our ports and exports with them more expensive and more bureaucratic. But we ARE going to have FTAs with the Faroe Islands and Palestine and you can't prove that our trade with them won't explode and make up what we are going to lose from the others.

Because, as you've been consistently telling us for the past 2 years, you can't predict the future.

[Bentley Bullet]

No BB. That's only a prediction by people who think about the likely consequences.

But what do they know? How many of them have ever chucked themselves off the North Bridge?

Who's to say the Heavenly Host wouldn't swoop down and save you?

None of them have chucked themselves off North bridge because, based on fact it wouldn't produce anything positive. The consequenses of Brexit is based on opinion, not fact.

So, the companies who say they have have moved all or part of their business from the UK to the EU because of Brexit is not based on fact, is not negative and that they are simply lying?

I'm saying it's not like jumping off North bridge!

[Bentley Bullet]

No BB. That's only a prediction by people who think about the likely consequences.

But what do they know? How many of them have ever chucked themselves off the North Bridge?

Who's to say the Heavenly Host wouldn't swoop down and save you?

None of them have chucked themselves off North bridge because, based on fact it wouldn't produce anything positive. The consequenses of Brexit is based on opinion, not fact.

How do YOU know nothing positive would come from it? They might learn to levitate. That would be marvellous.

Similarly, we've heard today that leaving the EU means our current Free Trade Agreements with Japan, Canada and Turkey will lapse, making our ports and exports with them more expensive and more bureaucratic. But we ARE going to have FTAs with the Faroe Islands and Palestine and you can't prove that our trade with them won't explode and make up what we are going to lose from the others.

Because, as you've been consistently telling us for the past 2 years, you can't predict the future.

No owd lad, I haven't said you can't predict the future. You can predict the future. Sometimes you can make more accurate predictions by basing them on facts gathered from results of similar events in the past - like jumping off a bridge.

Brexit's not like that.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I know this might be hard to grasp, but there are LOTS of examples of countries making decisions that make it easier or harder to trade with other countries. And the economic effects of international trade are some of the best known and best confirmed effects in the whole of economics.

So yeah. No-one has precisely done Brexiters before. But the predictions of the effect are based on decades of evidence. And the predictions that were made about what would happen between the vote and now have been pretty much bang on.

So. Back to the North Bridge.

Has anyone ever jumped off precisely the point on the North Bridge that our hypothetical suicidal bloke is thinking of jumping off from? No. But we've seen the effects of people jumping off other bridges before. So we can have a decent stab at predicting what will happen.

And I'd predict this. When he first jumps off, well before he hits the ground, he'll accelerate downwards for a bit.

[Bentley Bullet]

Nay lad, the gravity of the situation is far greater if you choose to jump off said bridge, even in your state of perpetual negative predicting. Of course you know that otherwise you'd have already jumped.

[SydneyRover]

Just in: Dyson's move offshore to leave a vacuum in UK manufacturing.

[Axholme Lion]

Just in: Dyson's move offshore to leave a vacuum in UK manufacturing.

That sucks.

[Bentley Bullet]

....And to think he got a knighthood for being an upright type with no baggage. What a shark.

[Filo]

No vote until 12th March now, running the clock down again

[The Red Baron]

Interesting that the EU is proposing offering an extension.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-24/eu-is-said-to-mull-idea-of-proposing-brexit-extension-to-2021