Trump

[BillyStubbsTears]

MM

The people who are buying into it are the ones who have decided that they are on Trump’s side and now want a justification for his salvation.

By no rational measure does this memo offer a route to absolve Trump. But we’re way beyond the rational. This is about belief. This memo is being aimed at believers. They will read into it whatever they want to.

The purpose of the memo is to be just about believable enough to just about enough people so that Trump can claim justification when he fires Rosenstein and replaces him and then...hey...whaddya know? the replacement fires Mueller.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You can see it rolling out before our eyes. The most brazen attack on the structures of American democracy.

This is how it works this week.

1) The memo  is hyped across the Trump-supporting media and the Putin troll factories as “proving” that the FBI and DOJ were institutionally anti-Trump. (They weren’t of course. The FBI announced days before the election that Clinton was under investigation and that probably lost her the election.)

2) They increasingly focus on the Deputy Attourney General, Rod Rosenstein. They will say that the memo “proves” that he wrongly approved an investigation into links between Trump’s aid Carter Page and Russian spies.

3) The calls to sack Rosenstein will be ramped up this week. Trump stirring it on Twitter as he did in that link above, last night.

Why does this matter? Because Rosenstein brought in Mueller as the Special Investigator into Trump/Putin. Trump knows that even the Republican Congress will not allow him to sack Mueller himself. But he CAN sack Rosenstein, using the memo as his reasoning - then replace him with a subservient Deputy AG who WILL sack Mueller.

Watch it play out this week. If the Republican Party allow him to sack and replace Rosenstein without impeaching him for clear and unambiguous obstruction of justice, then American democratic rule of law dies. For the first time in history, the president will have established that he can commit treason and get away with it. That’s why this week is such a huge one.

Here we go. This is step 1.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/thehill.com/homenews/administration/372191-trump-touts-findings-of-nunes-memo%3famp

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/02/shocking-memo-reveals-how-comey-disgraced-honorable-fbi.amp.html

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/03/pirro-desperate-fbi-doj-conspired-undermine-election-stop-trump/

[BillyStubbsTears]

And here’s step 2 commencing via Fox News.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GreggJarrett/status/959824077115576321

https://mobile.twitter.com/GreggJarrett/status/959766883770818566

It’s rolling out in plain sight.

[Sprotyrover]

I find it hard to believe that half of the US congress i.e. Republican Party would sit back and let the scenario played out in Billy's post unfold with out doing something about it.

Likewise The CIA or the FBI.as president Trump has access to a great deal of information which would undoubtedly destroy both organisations.

Its like the incitement of The Fascist Ukrainian Government to take on the Russians by the then Democratic Govt of the US.
They are all keeping their heads down because they don't want to loose them.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sproty
Then you’ve obviously not been paying attention to American politics for the past couple of decades.

The Republican Party was taken over years ago by people who have one aim - tax cuts for the richest and everything else is secondary. That’s why the Koch Brothers gave $600k to Paul Ryan [1] immediately after he rammed through the most reactionary tax cuts imaginable.

The Republican politicians (most of them, there are honorable exceptions) put truth, the Constitution and the well-being of the majority of Americans a distant second to ramming through tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%.

That is why Farage is so chummy with them. They are birds of a feather. Truth doesn’t matter. All that matters is ramming their reaction agenda through.

If Trump goes down, he’ll take the Republican Party with him. That is why it’s in the interests of the Republican Party to give a treasonous criminal a clear path to stay in the White House for now.

[1] Ryan is the most powerful Republican in Congress. He is a perfect example of how Republicans are divorced from the truth. Years before he rammed through his tax cuts for the rich by lying that it was cuts for the poor, he showed what a pathological liar he was in the 2012 presidential election campaign. He was asked on a radio interview what his best ever marathon time was. He said, “Oh, 2 hour’s 50-something.”  “Wow! That’s extremely impressive!” said America. Except is was an astonishing lie. He’d done one marathon in his life. In a time of 4 hours 24 mins.

Those are the people who lead the Republican Party. Lie about big things. Lie about small things. Lie about anything.

[Sprotyrover]

Trump told the American voters what he was going to do and he is doing it, good luck to him, the world is benefiting from his policies,if the US thrives we all thrive.
We as a nation will benefit from the Trump administration. All Barack Obama did was threaten us with a big stick.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sporty.

So, to be clear, you’re saying that you’re fine with someone breaking the law as long as overall they do things that benefit you?

[Glyn_Wigley]

What policies of Trump's are we benefitting from then? In his first whole year of being in power, the only thing I can think of that he promised to do and has actually managed to achieve has been tax cuts for the American rich.

As for Obama, are you trying to paint his warning that if we want to make ourselves small fish in a big pond then that is how everybody is going to treat us as some sort of threat?

[Sprotyrover]

Sporty.

So, to be clear, you’re saying that you’re fine with someone breaking the law as long as overall they do things that benefit you?

I kid you not there is a lot more to this than 3 pages of drivel from a washed up British spy.

[BillyStubbsTears]

1) Steele has a very long track record of working with the FBI to put criminals away. Washed up is precisely what someone would call him who either hadn’t looked at the issue or wanted him to be discredited.

2) Oh aye. There is a LOT more to the Trump case than just Steele’s dossier. A hell of a lot more. It’ll come out, so long as there are a handful of decent politicians in the Republican Party who put their country above their future.

Sproty. I’ll make a prediction now. You’re going to look something between naive and stupid when this washes up. What you are doing is saying you’re happy to turn a blind eye to one of the most important criminal conspiracies in history, because you agree with the politics of the criminals. You know who got to power through people with your approach don’t you?

[Sprotyrover]

1) Steele has a very long track record of working with the FBI to put criminals away. Washed up is precisely what someone would call him who either hadn’t looked at the issue or wanted him to be discredited.

2) Oh aye. There is a LOT more to the Trump case than just Steele’s dossier. A hell of a lot more. It’ll come out, so long as there are a handful of decent politicians in the Republican Party who put their country above their future.

One of us will, Billy one of us will!
Sproty. I’ll make a prediction now. You’re going to look something between naive and stupid when this washes up. What you are doing is saying you’re happy to turn a blind eye to one of the most important criminal conspiracies in history, because you agree with the politics of the criminals. You know who got to power through people with your approach don’t you?

[Sprotyrover]

The US secret services have got a long history of fabricating and escalating stories to suite their agenda, Libya and the over throw of Sadam Hussein spring to mind.
And a more recent example the Ukraine and the tapping of Angela Merkels phones, that was your buddies the Democrats.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yes Sproty. And that has what, precisely, to do with the points I raised?

[Sprotyrover]

All quiet on the Trump Front today as he rightly points out a few home truths about the NHS.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Aye. All those people marching in protest about the NHS eh? I bet Americans are delighted that they spend twice as much per person on health as we do, have 20-odd million people without health insurance and have worse health outcomes than we do.

Of course it was entirely coincidental that Farage was on Fox News spinning his bullshit about the NHS minutes before Trump tweeted his own bullshit.

[Filo]

All quiet on the Trump Front today as he rightly points out a few home truths about the NHS.

You don't really believe that do you?

[Hounslowrover]

Surely the protests were about supporting the NHS, providing more resources etc, not as Trump tried to say.  Farage blames it on immigrants, does he mean doctors and nurses too!!

[MachoMadness]

Why was Farridge even there in the first place? I know how strongly he feels about foreigners meddling in domestic policy issues, and surely Fox already have a supply of their own homegrown swivel-eyed lunatics.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Why was Farridge even there in the first place? I know how strongly he feels about foreigners meddling in domestic policy issues, and surely Fox already have a supply of their own homegrown swivel-eyed lunatics.

Because he now earns a living as a rentagob and gives Fox exactly what they want to show the US as an 'expert' about Britain.

[Akinfenwa]

Their agenda is to discredit the idea of universal healthcare by any means necessary. Farage is the sort of 'authentic' voice they'd use to do that from somewhere that has it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Here’s a thought.

Why would anyone lie as consistently and badly as the Trump entourage unless there was something REALLY big that had to be fought off?

Latest one. Nunes, the head of the Intelligence Committee that released that memo claiming Trump was being victimised by the FBI. He’s said today that there’s no evidence that Trump ever met George Papadopoulos, the Trump adviser who has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his links to Putin.

That’s the head of the Congressional Intelligence Committee saying there’s no evidence.

See me? I’m not the head of the Congressional Intelligence Committee, but I first saw this picture more than 6 months back.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/dbMM3U0gOmFwGi7WB8mq6yigAQI=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10160039/Screenshoot2.jpg

That’s Papadopoulos highlighted and Trump at the end of the table at the very select meeting of National Security advisers to the Trump campaign in 2016.

I knew of that picture. Every journalist in Washington knew of that picture. It’s inconceivable that Nunes didn’t know if that picture. Yet he said today, bold as brass that there was no evidence the two had ever met.

Why would you panic into lying about something so obviously disprovable unless you were terrified about the truth getting out?

[MachoMadness]

It's how Trumpism operates in the post-fact era. Everything you say is to be taken in isolation, completely free of any sort of context. It's why Trump and his cronies just say whatever makes them look good at any given time, without any consideration of facts, or what they said yesterday, or whether it's appropriate, or even what the party line is. That's how Trump operates, and now his acolytes are starting to follow suit.

[BillyStubbsTears]

The whole Trump saga took a surreal turn tonight.

Mueller has subpoenaed one of Trump’s campaign advisers, Sam Nunberg. Mueller wants e-mails from Nunberg from his time with Trump.

Nunberg has publicly said “Screw that” and refused to hand over the e-mails. Which puts him in line for a contempt of court action and several years in clink.

Then he goes on TV tonight to explain himself.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UrurClZnLak

And then THIS.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t7HnJGtmpOE

That’s someone who is so shiting it about his role in the Trump affair, that he’s prepared to go to prison rather than hand over e-mails, then getsshit-faced before going on TV in front of 10million people to explain himself.

I’ve never in my life seen anything like this. Or even imagined I’d see anything like this.

[Filo]

To me, that is someone who knows he's going down regardless, so he's going to take a lot of people down with him

[Glyn_Wigley]

We all know what Trump thinks about people withholding e-mails, don't we!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Jesus f**king wept.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-43418892

[idler]

You couldn't make it up.
Donald could though.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well this is worth 20 minutes of your time. This is the way that democracy is heading.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbeOCKZFfQ

[BillyStubbsTears]

FBI has just raided the office of Trump’s lawyer.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.amp.html

The net is closing...

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sweet f**king Jesus. One of the most dangerous moments in global politics in the past 30 years and there’s a tantrum-prone child in charge in the Oval Office.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/984022625440747520