Houghton

[Filo]

You only have to listen to DF to hear that he was disappointed not to get it finalized . Houghton has nothing to prove we are a better team with him in front of the defence,  he is an excellent player with a level headed approach. We have only to look at last season when we lost him for the remainder of the season and our form dipped to the point where winning the League was just dream instead of the reality it should have been .

We got promotion with 5 games to go, our form dipped after that, Houghton was missing from January

[drfchound]

Some say it's all down to wages, anybody thought he might be like some of the pessemists on here, and waiting to see which league we are in next season?

So, is he himself being negative about our prospects this season?
Using your analogy,I guess so.

[steve@dcfd]

Surely the money is for the here and now not next season?
The loan has been agreed for the rest of the season so how would we lose him in this window? Can an agreed loan deal be annulled?

I thought a player could be sold in atransfer window  even a loan agreement had been made or has that changed now.

I believe this answers my question.
52.1.2 any player registered on any other form of loan at a club, may not sign for any other Club (or club) during the period of the respective loan.

Therefore once the loan has been agreed, before Saturday we hope, he ours for the rest of the season

[drfchound]

I might be in a minority here but I'm glad it's a loan deal and not permanent.

Houghton still has much to prove, IMO, and he's got another four months to do it during which time we can

A) See if his performances merit what he thinks he's worth wages wise
B) See if we actually want him on a long term deal; and
C) If he's worth it, open negotiations in the next four months.

We obviously run the risk of possibly losing him to a higher bidder in the summer if he does well, but by having him on loan we don't run the risk of having to fork out X amount on wages for however long if he gets injured again.

All good, IMO.

Could I had (D) Help us us to safety.

But surely we are safe now that we are top half.
How can you post such a negative thing.
(Tongue firmly in writers cheek).

[dickos1]

Only a few weeks ago you were saying you would snap someone's hand off at a midtable finish. And you couldn't see it happing at all.
Now we're in that position you're suggesting a midtable finish would be a negative

[drfchound]

Only a few weeks ago you were saying you would snap someone's hand off at a midtable finish. And you couldn't see it happing at all.
Now we're in that position you're suggesting a midtable finish would be a negative

Dickos, please stop jumping on my posts.
You always seem to pick on me but never other posters.

Where am I suggesting that a mid table position would be negative?

Just to make it clear, a few weeks ago, yes I would have snapped your hand off for a mid table finish but since then things have improved.
I have said as much in my recent posts.

However, as you well know, we haven’t yet finished in mid table have we.

[Filo]

Surely the money is for the here and now not next season?
The loan has been agreed for the rest of the season so how would we lose him in this window? Can an agreed loan deal be annulled?

I thought a player could be sold in atransfer window  even a loan agreement had been made or has that changed now.

I believe this answers my question.
52.1.2 any player registered on any other form of loan at a club, may not sign for any other Club (or club) during the period of the respective loan.

Therefore once the loan has been agreed, before Saturday we hope, he ours for the rest of the season

If a player is recalled he would n't be on loan at another club

[steve@dcfd]

Surely the money is for the here and now not next season?
The loan has been agreed for the rest of the season so how would we lose him in this window? Can an agreed loan deal be annulled?

I thought a player could be sold in atransfer window  even a loan agreement had been made or has that changed now.

I believe this answers my question.
52.1.2 any player registered on any other form of loan at a club, may not sign for any other Club (or club) during the period of the respective loan.

Therefore once the loan has been agreed, before Saturday we hope, he ours for the rest of the season

If a player is recalled he would n't be on loan at another club

I’m Looking at Houghton who has not been recalled so once the loan has been agreed under that law he is ours to the end of the season.

[dickos1]

Only a few weeks ago you were saying you would snap someone's hand off at a midtable finish. And you couldn't see it happing at all.
Now we're in that position you're suggesting a midtable finish would be a negative

Dickos, please stop jumping on my posts.
You always seem to pick on me but never other posters.

Where am I suggesting that a mid table position would be negative?

Just to make it clear, a few weeks ago, yes I would have snapped your hand off for a mid table finish but since then things have improved.
I have said as much in my recent posts.

However, as you well know, we haven’t yet finished in mid table have we.

Jumping on your posts??
It's a discussion board, you say something and other people respond that's how it works.
It's the first comment I've made on one of your posts this year I reckon.
Just seems to me, now we're looking good for achieving something you would have snapped your hand off for, you're moving the goalposts to something even better, just so you can still describe the season as a disappointment when we don't achieve it.

[Filo]

Surely the money is for the here and now not next season?
The loan has been agreed for the rest of the season so how would we lose him in this window? Can an agreed loan deal be annulled?

I thought a player could be sold in atransfer window  even a loan agreement had been made or has that changed now.

I believe this answers my question.
52.1.2 any player registered on any other form of loan at a club, may not sign for any other Club (or club) during the period of the respective loan.

Therefore once the loan has been agreed, before Saturday we hope, he ours for the rest of the season

If a player is recalled he would n't be on loan at another club

I’m Looking at Houghton who has not been recalled so once the loan has been agreed under that law he is ours to the end of the season.

But he could be recalled this month if Chelsea got an offer for him' recall, meaning the loan has ended then sell him

[anne honemous]

I might be in a minority here but I'm glad it's a loan deal and not permanent.

Houghton still has much to prove, IMO, and he's got another four months to do it during which time we can

A) See if his performances merit what he thinks he's worth wages wise
B) See if we actually want him on a long term deal; and
C) If he's worth it, open negotiations in the next four months.

We obviously run the risk of possibly losing him to a higher bidder in the summer if he does well, but by having him on loan we don't run the risk of having to fork out X amount on wages for however long if he gets injured again.

All good, IMO.

Could I had (D) Help us us to safety.

But surely we are safe now that we are top half.
How can you post such a negative thing.

We haven't got over 50 points yet. There's plenty of work still to be done to guarantee safety.

[DonnyOsmond]

Surely the money is for the here and now not next season?
The loan has been agreed for the rest of the season so how would we lose him in this window? Can an agreed loan deal be annulled?

I thought a player could be sold in atransfer window  even a loan agreement had been made or has that changed now.

I believe this answers my question.
52.1.2 any player registered on any other form of loan at a club, may not sign for any other Club (or club) during the period of the respective loan.

Therefore once the loan has been agreed, before Saturday we hope, he ours for the rest of the season

If a player is recalled he would n't be on loan at another club

I’m Looking at Houghton who has not been recalled so once the loan has been agreed under that law he is ours to the end of the season.

But he could be recalled this month if Chelsea got an offer for him' recall, meaning the loan has ended then sell him

Thought a player couldn't be recalled within 28 days of the start of the loan?

[drfchound]

Only a few weeks ago you were saying you would snap someone's hand off at a midtable finish. And you couldn't see it happing at all.
Now we're in that position you're suggesting a midtable finish would be a negative

This year isn't five days old yet.

I haven't suggested anything negative at all.
You have a habit of trying to imply that they are.
I have my reasons for cutting this discussion short so you can have the last word if you want to.





Dickos, please stop jumping on my posts.
You always seem to pick on me but never other posters.

Where am I suggesting that a mid table position would be negative?

Just to make it clear, a few weeks ago, yes I would have snapped your hand off for a mid table finish but since then things have improved.
I have said as much in my recent posts.

However, as you well know, we haven’t yet finished in mid table have we.

Jumping on your posts??
It's a discussion board, you say something and other people respond that's how it works.
It's the first comment I've made on one of your posts this year I reckon.
Just seems to me, now we're looking good for achieving something you would have snapped your hand off for, you're moving the goalposts to something even better, just so you can still describe the season as a disappointment when we don't achieve it.

[steve@dcfd]

Let’s hope today the club can announce a loan agreement for the rest of the season.
If it continues into next week then it may not happen. Let’s hope the club and CEO are not naive to miss out with protracted negotiations.

[Filo]

Surely the money is for the here and now not next season?
The loan has been agreed for the rest of the season so how would we lose him in this window? Can an agreed loan deal be annulled?

I thought a player could be sold in atransfer window  even a loan agreement had been made or has that changed now.

I believe this answers my question.
52.1.2 any player registered on any other form of loan at a club, may not sign for any other Club (or club) during the period of the respective loan.

Therefore once the loan has been agreed, before Saturday we hope, he ours for the rest of the season

If a player is recalled he would n't be on loan at another club

I’m Looking at Houghton who has not been recalled so once the loan has been agreed under that law he is ours to the end of the season.

But he could be recalled this month if Chelsea got an offer for him' recall, meaning the loan has ended then sell him

Thought a player couldn't be recalled within 28 days of the start of the loan?

Yes, I think you are correct, so in that case we do have Houghton for the rest of the season

[roversdude]

Didn’t we fall foul of this with Sam Johnson

[steve@dcfd]

So it’s official the loan deal is done till the end of the season.
Jordon is happy the deal is done.

NEWS | @HOUGHTON_J was pleased to come to an agreement with #DRFC early in January, after extending his loan until the end of the season. bit.ly/2AuOnaz

[The Red Baron]

Didn’t we fall foul of this with Sam Johnson

I think the regulations on loans have been tightened up since then.

[Filo]

Didn’t we fall foul of this with Sam Johnson

I think the regulations on loans have been tightened up since then.

His loan was halfway through a season long loan I think, and he was recalled in January to go to Preston on loan

[StocktonRover]

I think that we also agreed to the early termination of his loan as the move to Preston was supposed to be a loan with a view to a permenant transfer at a price that we could never match.

[roversdude]

 Thanks guys

[drfchound]

Only a few weeks ago you were saying you would snap someone's hand off at a midtable finish. And you couldn't see it happing at all.
Now we're in that position you're suggesting a midtable finish would be a negative

This year isn't five days old yet.

I haven't suggested anything negative at all.
You have a habit of trying to imply that they are.
I have my reasons for cutting this discussion short so you can have the last word if you want to.





Dickos, please stop jumping on my posts.
You always seem to pick on me but never other posters.

Where am I suggesting that a mid table position would be negative?

Just to make it clear, a few weeks ago, yes I would have snapped your hand off for a mid table finish but since then things have improved.
I have said as much in my recent posts.

However, as you well know, we haven’t yet finished in mid table have we.

Jumping on your posts??
It's a discussion board, you say something and other people respond that's how it works.
It's the first comment I've made on one of your posts this year I reckon.
Just seems to me, now we're looking good for achieving something you would have snapped your hand off for, you're moving the goalposts to something even better, just so you can still describe the season as a disappointment when we don't achieve it.

I have re read my post and still can't see where I have said a mid table finish isn't good enough.
Nowhere have I said anything negative about our recent upturn except if course for saying that Northampton were poor.
Lots of other people said the same but you didn't make any comment about them doing so.
Maybe you should understand that sometimes people can express a viewpoint which is just a concern, not a negative post.
As you say, it is a forum and lots of other members post similarly to myself.

[dickos1]

I know you haven't said it, I didn't say you had.
I said you're moving the goalposts to something better so then at the end of the season if we finish midtable you can then say it's disappointing.

Rather than saying midtable is brilliant which you had said when you felt it was unachievabke

[DRFCMach2man]

Have to say I cannot understand where all this supposed ' negativity' of hound's posts comes from. Having followed his posts for a while now I find the majority to be positive assessment and critique of the team - even when we win there may be some elements of a oerformance that warrants critique.
I also fully agree on hounds post re the Northampton game which I also watched - yes we played quite well and yes we got the 3 points BUT Northampton that day were very poor and ther display supported their league position and their goals against also!!
if I remember rightly their manager was also quite critical post match of his teams poor display. Hound being negative - I do not agree and find his posts quite refreshing and factual and sometimes a bit of subtle humour thrown in.

[Campsall rover]

Dickos I love your positivity with regard anything Rovers.
There is no one more positive than me so I understand your dislike for what you see as negativity.
That said this is a forum for all to air their views whatever they maybe. As long as they are not racist, abusive, or contain foul language they are part of a discussion forum that this site is supposed to be.
What I don’t understand is why you are continually looking for a verbal fight with anybody you think is being negative.
Particularly Hound. He like all of us are entitled to our opinions even if some of the posts on here may in your or my view be total nonsense.
PLEASE PLEASE pack it in. It is getting tiresome and boring.

[DRFCMach2man]

Well said Campsall - onwards and upwards

[dickos1]

I'm not looking for a fight, hound said numerous times he didn't think we would make midtable this season and he'd snap his hand off for it.

Today in response to the suggestion houghton naught be waiting to see which league were in next year, hound stated

So, is he himself being negative about our prospects this season?
Using your analogy,I guess so.

This implies that not getting promotion is a negative

[drfchound]

I'm not looking for a fight, hound said numerous times he didn't think we would make midtable this season and he'd snap his hand off for it.

Today in response to the suggestion houghton naught be waiting to see which league were in next year, hound stated

So, is he himself being negative about our prospects this season?
Using your analogy,I guess so.

This implies that not getting promotion is a negative

It is nothing of the sort mate, it was a question about what thoughts JH might be having, not my thoughts at all.
It could even be him considering whether we could end up back in L2 if things took a turn for the worse ( his thoughts, not my suggestion, just so you know).

A number of good results have lifted us up the league but as someone else (not me) has posted earlier, a few bad results could put us back in the relegation mix.

By the way, I was appalled the other day when you suggested that I would be unhappy that we were leading 2-0 against Rochdale.
I could not have been anything but the polar opposite.

[Filo]

Can you argue through pm ffs! You’re spoiling every theead!

[drfchound]

Sorry Filo but I have to defend myself against accusations.

As mach2man and Campsall noted, I am the innocent party here.