Blatant penalty !

[BillyStubbsTears]

RA

You reckon Ferguson is right to say that he would shoot refs and that he should only get a slap on the wrist then we have different standards.

Football managers are highly paid professionals. They have a social responsibility. That Kitson Mourinho hounded a referee to the point that the ref was getting death threats from Chelsea fans and had to retire early. Ferguson talking like this is massively unprofessional. It reflects on the club and it normalises a culture where hard-working, not very well-paid, honest but fallible officials become the target for abuse.

If I were the club owner, I’d tell him to call a press conference tomorrow and apologise unreservedly, or I would sack him.

Give over
You're not telling me you think he was being serious? It was a throw away comment, a poor one.

No. Of course I don’t think he was being serious. I think he was being utterly unprofessional, stupid and out of control.

[dickos1]

Which is what happens when managers get interviewed ten mins after a game.
He's not the first manager to say something because he's wound up

[RoversAlias]

Did you even listen to it BST? "Out of control" it was not. Off the cuff, flippant and exaggerative are the terms I'd describe it as.

He certainly wasn't being stupid either, because he is right that this display by the officials was beyond pathetic and something needs doing about it not just in our games but across all of football.

[drfchound]

Which is what happens when managers get interviewed ten mins after a game.
He's not the first manager to say something because he's wound up

I have often said the same.
Not the best time to ask about contentious decisions.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

DF has made an ill judged comment in the aftershock of seeing an incompetent referee/officials being presented with an easy decision and getting it totally wrong.

He'll regret the comment and probably be punished by the FA. That's enough.

This,should not mask the real issue which is the focus on the standard of refereeing. Whilst thier standard of fitness may be an issue, that wasn't the cause of his, and his assistant failing to see what everyone else saw. The call for VAR will only grow as long as we don't address the standard of referees and their professionalism. Other sports do not get major decisions wrong as frequently as we do in football. So much so, the game becomes a lottery.

I am equally concerned about our ability to gift the initiative to our opposition when we're in control of the game. Straight from the off in the second half you could see we conceded territory with Houghton dropping onto the toes of the back line. Then anxiety sets in and start making simple things look difficult. Compounded when Alfie came on.

We should have been able to wrestle control of the game back and get to a position where the ref couldn't influence the result.

[selby]

  Another comment i will make is about radio Sheffield. They could not wait to broadcast his after the match statement. No chance of them holding it back, lets broadcast that we think he will get into trouble, and low and behold we are all the news just after 5 pm. instead of the usual 6 20pm.
 If I was Fergie that would be the last after match interview, which as a supporter I would not like, but that lot could go do one for me if that is their game. And let's face it, we are only an after thought anyway, they will be discussing what colour toilet paper the new Wendy manager uses for the next two weeks.
  The most interesting comment to me in the interview was,"Alfie May I dont know what he was doing"enough said.

[BillyStubbsTears]

RA

Yes, I heard it.

He WAS out of control. He was set a trap by the interviewer and he dived into it because he wasn’t calm enough to bite his tongue.

As I say, if you think that a manager saying he would shoot referees is something that needs to be said, then we have very different takes on football.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

RA

Yes, I heard it.

As I say, if you think that a manager saying he would shoot referees is something that needs to be said, then we have very different takes on football.

It doesn't need to be but it's good to see characters in football and the frustration shows he cares.  These decisions could make a big difference come end of the season.

The language in my workplace of late is a tad more colourful than this also.

[Filo]

RA

Yes, I heard it.

As I say, if you think that a manager saying he would shoot referees is something that needs to be said, then we have very different takes on football.

He did n't say he would shoot them, he was answering a question with a question, as has been said, the whole comment has been taken out of context

[drfchound]

Obviously Ferguson was wound up and if he had been interviewed an hour later he would probably not have said the same words.

However if it brings into focus how shocking some decisions are and standards somehow improve then it will have been worthwhile.

[dickos1]

Exactly filo, massive overreaction from billy this.

[knockers]

It doesn’t matter that he’s right about the officials. They were awful. The ref and linesman missed a red card offence with the elbow on Mason in the first half.

But you can’t go round saying you’d shoot the officials. That’s grossly irresponsible. I suspect he’s just put his job on the line.

Heat of the moment Billy. We've all done it

[RoversAlias]

RA

Yes, I heard it.

He WAS out of control. He was set a trap by the interviewer and he dived into it because he wasn’t calm enough to bite his tongue.

As I say, if you think that a manager saying he would shoot referees is something that needs to be said, then we have very different takes on football.

Once again I didn't say that, how many more times do I have to stress that I agree that it was inappropriate and he shouldn't have said? You have blown this whole thing way out of proportion I'm afraid, I hear and say flippant remarks like this myself and hear them all the time in the workplace and in social situations.

Selby, Ferguson is obligated to speak to the press after the game and I think you too are over-reacting a bit. You're basically criticising journalists for doing their jobs. They are there to get useable quotes to run stories with, which is exactly what they did. They are certainly not there to cater to the whims of the managers or clubs so they don't get into trouble, as that is against what the free and impartial press is there for. It was a reasonable question to put to Fergie and he responded in the way he did, he wasn't baited or pushed into it. He was understandably furious with what he had just had to deal with from the officials.

[Bentley Bullet]

What should the authorities do about Fergie's comment? Shoot him?

[anton123]

ANy 1 got a link to the interview ?

[Campsall rover]

Ferguson also not happy with May. Says not good enough. Beestin he likes but cannot get through a game a moment. Marquis "lacking in confidence".

If he knows May is not good enough, which a few of us have been pointing out on here for a number of weeks then why has he been persisting with him and not giving a starting place to Mandeville.
There has to be a reason doesn’t there? He is scoring for fun in the development games and has been man of the match in just about all Checkatrade and development games. Something does not add up.
Today Beestin started and did very little until he produced that bit of magic to score the goal.
Any Premier league striker would have been praised for such a quality finish. Having said that Beestin is a long way short of Mandeville’s overall game especially playing as a front man. I don’t think that is Beestin’s natural position.

[BillyStubbsTears]

RA

The issue is that (I assume) you’re not a national figure (Ferguson certainly is now) and if you say something out of turn, it doesn’t go nationwide. Any manager talking like that is going make the news. It goes with the job and he’s just done something extremely unprofessional. That wasn’t “being a character.” It was being an unprofessional idiot.

[dickos1]

ANy 1 got a link to the interview ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05ts6t0

[dickos1]

Ferguson also not happy with May. Says not good enough. Beestin he likes but cannot get through a game a moment. Marquis "lacking in confidence".

If he knows May is not good enough, which a few of us have been pointing out on here for a number of weeks then why has he been persisting with him and not giving a starting place to Mandeville.
There has to be a reason doesn’t there? He is scoring for fun in the development games and has been man of the match in just about all Checkatrade and development games. Something does not add up.
Today Beestin started and did very little until he produced that bit of magic to score the goal.
Any Premier league striker would have been praised for such a quality finish. Having said that Beestin is a long way short of Mandeville’s overall game especially playing as a front man. I don’t think that is Beestin’s natural position.

He wasn't  suggesting may isn't good enough he said he he wasnt good enough today after coming on

[wesisback]

He should be sacked for such a statement 

[Campsall rover]

Donald Trump has just tweeted something very nasty but who will fine and sack him. In this case though I don't agree one jot with Trumps comments but Fergy's off the cuff in the heat of the moment well yeah.

Exactly it was said in total exasperation only 20 mins after the final whistle. To be honest if it had been me after 2 consecutive matches with that level of incompetence from the officials, I think my language would have been xxx certificate. When he said “the ref’s should be shot” it was not a literal ‘shot’ he just meant they should be reprimanded with a meaningfull punishment.

[glosterred]

I suspect after DF’s comments he may find himself in the stands for the next few games.


COYR

[drfchound]

Ferguson also not happy with May. Says not good enough. Beestin he likes but cannot get through a game a moment. Marquis "lacking in confidence".

If he knows May is not good enough, which a few of us have been pointing out on here for a number of weeks then why has he been persisting with him and not giving a starting place to Mandeville.
There has to be a reason doesn’t there? He is scoring for fun in the development games and has been man of the match in just about all Checkatrade and development games. Something does not add up.
Today Beestin started and did very little until he produced that bit of magic to score the goal.
Any Premier league striker would have been praised for such a quality finish. Having said that Beestin is a long way short of Mandeville’s overall game especially playing as a front man. I don’t think that is Beestin’s natural position.

Sorry to disagree Campsall but I thought Beestin did well until an injury forced him to be subbed.
Some of his first touches were sublime and he linked play up very well.

[Campsall rover]

Ferguson also not happy with May. Says not good enough. Beestin he likes but cannot get through a game a moment. Marquis "lacking in confidence".

If he knows May is not good enough, which a few of us have been pointing out on here for a number of weeks then why has he been persisting with him and not giving a starting place to Mandeville.
There has to be a reason doesn’t there? He is scoring for fun in the development games and has been man of the match in just about all Checkatrade and development games. Something does not add up.
Today Beestin started and did very little until he produced that bit of magic to score the goal.
Any Premier league striker would have been praised for such a quality finish. Having said that Beestin is a long way short of Mandeville’s overall game especially playing as a front man. I don’t think that is Beestin’s natural position.

Sorry to disagree Campsall but I thought Beestin did well until an injury forced him to be subbed.
Some of his first touches were sublime and he linked play up very well.

Yes I agree with you. The point i was making is that he was pretty anonymous in the first 20/25 mins of the match. After that very good and the goal sublime.

[JonWallsend]

Heat of the moment and his frustration is obvious. He is answering a question of what do you want me to do? with a rhetorical Shoot them? However his little caveat of " it would be a good idea" doesn't help his cause and I fully expect the book to be thrown at him.

Regarding May, he doesn't suggest he isn't good enough;just his performance today wasn't good enough.

Again he also thinks it was all we deserved.

[Campsall rover]

Ferguson also not happy with May. Says not good enough. Beestin he likes but cannot get through a game a moment. Marquis "lacking in confidence".

If he knows May is not good enough, which a few of us have been pointing out on here for a number of weeks then why has he been persisting with him and not giving a starting place to Mandeville.
There has to be a reason doesn’t there? He is scoring for fun in the development games and has been man of the match in just about all Checkatrade and development games. Something does not add up.
Today Beestin started and did very little until he produced that bit of magic to score the goal.
Any Premier league striker would have been praised for such a quality finish. Having said that Beestin is a long way short of Mandeville’s overall game especially playing as a front man. I don’t think that is Beestin’s natural position.

He wasn't  suggesting may isn't good enough he said he he wasnt good enough today after coming on

He said “”he isn’t good enough” “must be lacking in confidence or something” 
The fact is Alfie runs round with his head down and doesn’t have any vision, it’s as though he has blinkers on.
I don’t dislike Alfie, I just don’t think he is ready for League 1 football yet. Sub at best (as today) & used as an impact player when opposing defences are tiring in the last 20 mins. What he was doing today I don’t know. I am not too sure he will either if anyone asks him.

[dickos1]

He said it's not good enough, and i don't know what he was upto

[Bentley Bullet]

Fergie obviously meant he wasn't good enough today. If he'd meant he wasn't good enough in the past, he wouldn't have played him in the past!

[selby]

  Rovers Alias, not at all am I saying that the reporter was not doing his job, I was trying to point out they do not do it other weeks, and dont bother with a report about us until 6 20 pm, and then only if the two Sheffield managers are otherwise occupied.
  And if Fergie has to attend, he wants to practice a deep, slow Portuguese accent and talk for 15 minutes sending everyone to sleep, bored to death.
 I bet Radio Wales is a barrel of laughs now.

[Paul Simpson]

I personally don’t have a problem with fergie venting his spleen. The ref was a complete joke!! Well said Darren 😀👍