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It was also nearly two decades ago.
Quote from: CrippyCooke on January 14, 2018, 06:55:47 pmIt was also nearly two decades ago. Exactly, before the silly stupid PC brigade gained control.
Quote from: CrippyCooke on January 14, 2018, 06:55:47 pmIt was also nearly two decades ago.When players were unfit apparently.
An interesting point, when comparing rellevent styles of play with the past most people I think assume a game played with the modern ball, modern referees, and interpretation of the laws (offside ,tackling etc) and what is and is not acceptable. How do you think a modern player would go on if he was transported into a first division game, say in the 1960s. Would he have to adapt,change, toughen up, how do you think they would get on?
I’ve said for years. If you took Jamie Coppinger back to 1966, no-one would ever speak again about Pele or George Best. If you took Ronaldo or Messi to 1966, they’d have to re-write the Laws of the Game to give anyone else a sniff of a chance. The modern players are incomparably fitter, stronger and technically better. Bill Shankley was reputedly impressed with Kevin Keegan when he got changed for his first training session with Liverpool. Said he had the physique of a middleweight boxer. EVERY player has that physique these days. They would physically overwhelm players from the 60s. Sure, the likes of Norman Hunter or Chopper Harris might try to nail them. But they’d have to get within nailing distance first.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 14, 2018, 08:42:44 pmI’ve said for years. If you took Jamie Coppinger back to 1966, no-one would ever speak again about Pele or George Best. If you took Ronaldo or Messi to 1966, they’d have to re-write the Laws of the Game to give anyone else a sniff of a chance. The modern players are incomparably fitter, stronger and technically better. Bill Shankley was reputedly impressed with Kevin Keegan when he got changed for his first training session with Liverpool. Said he had the physique of a middleweight boxer. EVERY player has that physique these days. They would physically overwhelm players from the 60s. Sure, the likes of Norman Hunter or Chopper Harris might try to nail them. But they’d have to get within nailing distance first. BST, wholly agree with you on this.Bobby Charlton though clearly wouldn’t.A year or two back a journalist asked him how he thought the England team of 1966 would do against the modern day England team.Bobby said the 66 team would win 1-0.When the journo asked him why 1-0, Bobby reminded him that all the lads from back then were well over 70 years old now.
Fitness is subjective,I know the players today do not have to do it, but do you think that they would be fit enough to work a day shift on the coal face, walk to Cantley Park ( he used to fancy himself as a race walker and used it for training) from Askern, and then train as a part time footballer. That's what Morgan Hunt did as a 18yr old,the walking training was to enter the local colliery sports days where he could win £25, four weeks wages. He was a big strong lad Morgan, and was very fit into late life, being one of the early members of Askern Running club,and trained with them well into his seventies. A different time and opportunities, but do not doubt the strength and fitness of the old players, and they were, and had to be, as hard as nails.
Quote from: drfchound on January 14, 2018, 08:48:20 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 14, 2018, 08:42:44 pmI’ve said for years. If you took Jamie Coppinger back to 1966, no-one would ever speak again about Pele or George Best. If you took Ronaldo or Messi to 1966, they’d have to re-write the Laws of the Game to give anyone else a sniff of a chance. The modern players are incomparably fitter, stronger and technically better. Bill Shankley was reputedly impressed with Kevin Keegan when he got changed for his first training session with Liverpool. Said he had the physique of a middleweight boxer. EVERY player has that physique these days. They would physically overwhelm players from the 60s. Sure, the likes of Norman Hunter or Chopper Harris might try to nail them. But they’d have to get within nailing distance first. BST, wholly agree with you on this.Bobby Charlton though clearly wouldn’t.A year or two back a journalist asked him how he thought the England team of 1966 would do against the modern day England team.Bobby said the 66 team would win 1-0.When the journo asked him why 1-0, Bobby reminded him that all the lads from back then were well over 70 years old now.And don't forget, two are dead, one is blind in one eye and poor old Nobby has dementia
Quote from: Filo on January 14, 2018, 08:54:41 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 14, 2018, 08:48:20 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 14, 2018, 08:42:44 pmI’ve said for years. If you took Jamie Coppinger back to 1966, no-one would ever speak again about Pele or George Best. If you took Ronaldo or Messi to 1966, they’d have to re-write the Laws of the Game to give anyone else a sniff of a chance. The modern players are incomparably fitter, stronger and technically better. Bill Shankley was reputedly impressed with Kevin Keegan when he got changed for his first training session with Liverpool. Said he had the physique of a middleweight boxer. EVERY player has that physique these days. They would physically overwhelm players from the 60s. Sure, the likes of Norman Hunter or Chopper Harris might try to nail them. But they’d have to get within nailing distance first. BST, wholly agree with you on this.Bobby Charlton though clearly wouldn’t.A year or two back a journalist asked him how he thought the England team of 1966 would do against the modern day England team.Bobby said the 66 team would win 1-0.When the journo asked him why 1-0, Bobby reminded him that all the lads from back then were well over 70 years old now.And don't forget, two are dead, one is blind in one eye and poor old Nobby has dementiaHa, clearly Bobby was taking that into consideration otherwise he might have said 2 or 3 nil.
Quote from: drfchound on January 15, 2018, 09:05:54 amQuote from: Filo on January 14, 2018, 08:54:41 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 14, 2018, 08:48:20 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 14, 2018, 08:42:44 pmI’ve said for years. If you took Jamie Coppinger back to 1966, no-one would ever speak again about Pele or George Best. If you took Ronaldo or Messi to 1966, they’d have to re-write the Laws of the Game to give anyone else a sniff of a chance. The modern players are incomparably fitter, stronger and technically better. Bill Shankley was reputedly impressed with Kevin Keegan when he got changed for his first training session with Liverpool. Said he had the physique of a middleweight boxer. EVERY player has that physique these days. They would physically overwhelm players from the 60s. Sure, the likes of Norman Hunter or Chopper Harris might try to nail them. But they’d have to get within nailing distance first. BST, wholly agree with you on this.Bobby Charlton though clearly wouldn’t.A year or two back a journalist asked him how he thought the England team of 1966 would do against the modern day England team.Bobby said the 66 team would win 1-0.When the journo asked him why 1-0, Bobby reminded him that all the lads from back then were well over 70 years old now.And don't forget, two are dead, one is blind in one eye and poor old Nobby has dementiaHa, clearly Bobby was taking that into consideration otherwise he might have said 2 or 3 nil.Who's Bobby