Norway option ...

[hoolahoop]

Excellent piece yesterday in the Guardian by Simon Jenkins in case anyone missed it .

It does seem the best option to me .

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/22/brexit-britain-norway-theresa-may-transition-deal

[Glyn_Wigley]

But that article ignores the freedom of movement of people that comes with it that would be a big sticking point with a lot of people.

[hoolahoop]

But that article ignores the freedom of movement of people that comes with it that would be a big sticking point with a lot of people.

Ok so how do you think it will pan out Glyn ?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Dunno. But then I didn't want and didn't vote for this crock of shite.

[RedJ]

To be honest I doubt many of the people who voted to leave voted for the crock of shite they've been sold, either...

[BillyStubbsTears]

RedJ

It’s more nuanced than that. That latest poll saying 42% think we’ll be economically better off after Brexit says that there is a huge proportion of the population with no idea whatsoever what a crock of shite they’ve bought into.

I guarantee you they WOULD care if they realised just how much worse off they personally are going to be than they would have been if we stayed in.

Not a few quid. Not a few hundred quid. It will run to well over £10k for everyone in the country over the next decade.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Ah, but everybody thinks it's going to happen to somebody else and not them.

[RedJ]

Long as it happens to them bloody forinars, coming over here taking our GDP.

[BillyStubbsTears]

By the way, this one graph tells you everything you need to know about why we are where we are, politically in the UK in the late 2010s.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-09R18M1SxXg/WrQBsssC4BI/AAAAAAAAB3M/2WLlqAzm5zgNb41cs-rkrI3Ey3_NG4w7wCLcBGAs/s1600/UK%2BGDP%2Bper%2Bhead.jpg

It shows GDP per person over the last 60 years. The orange curve is the average trend that we stuck to from 1955 to 2007.

We had booms. We had busts. But we deviated only a little and never for long from that growth trend. So, over 50 years, we all got a lot richer.

But look what’s happened since 2007. That was a horrific recession. We knew what to do to get growth going again. That required massive Govt spending. It’s textbook economics. But we decided not to do that. We restrained Govt spending while obsessing about the deficit.

Some of us predicted back in 2010 what would happen.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=106566.msg106758#msg106758

You restrain Govt spending. The economy doesn’t pick up. You flatline.

Some of us were warning about a Lost Decade of non-rising living standards back then. That graph says that’s exactly what we’ve had.

That is why Brexit happened. Because people get fed up and want to kick out. Imagine how much more upset they are going to be by 2025 when that line is still flat. Because that is what all the projections are predicting. Who are we going to lash out at then?

[bobjimwilly]

Who are we going to lash out at then?

It's obvious isn't it? YOU BST! 

[hoolahoop]

[quote author=BillyStubbsTears link=topic=265631.msg768466#msg768466 date=1521928402]
By the way, this one graph tells you everything you need to know about why we are where we are, politically in the UK in the late 2010s.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-09R18M1SxXg/WrQBsssC4BI/AAAAAAAAB3M/2WLlqAzm5zgNb41cs-rkrI3Ey3_NG4w7wCLcBGAs/s1600/UK%2BGDP%2Bper%2Bhead.jpg

It shows GDP per person over the last 60 years. The orange curve is the average trend that we stuck to from 1955 to 2007.

We had booms. We had busts. But we deviated only a little and never for long from that growth trend. So, over 50 years, we all got a lot richer.

But look what’s happened since 2007. That was a horrific recession. We knew what to do to get growth going again. That required massive Govt spending. It’s textbook economics. But we decided not to do that. We restrained Govt spending while obsessing about the deficit.

Some of us predicted back in 2010 what would happen.

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=106566.msg106758#msg106758

You restrain Govt spending. The economy doesn’t pick up. You flatline.

Some of us were warning about a Lost Decade of non-rising living standards back then. That graph says that’s exactly what we’ve had.

That is why Brexit happened. Because people get fed up and want to kick out. Imagine how much more upset they are going to be by 2025 when that line is still flat. Because that is what all the projections are predicting. Who are we going to lash out at then?
[/quote]

How right you were when you all discussed Osborne's famous or should I say infamous " 5  year plan " - which you all predicted was impossible and you never factored in the disastrous Referendum result making our country poorer still .

Whatever happened to RIVER DON, BOB G AND THE THINWHITEDUKE ?  I wonder what their take , on all this would be . I wonder and hope they are all still alive ? Where is Rob the Rover, Cussie and Nudga for that matter ........the forum is so much poorer without them all