Party Election Broadcast - Theresa May

[Donnywolf]

Just watched her electioneering after Look North

Politicians are a thick skinned lot and of course give "vaguely" right anserws and Statements but REALLY I have never heard such a load of drivel in all my life *

Check it out if you can - I personally cant believe that she believes a word of what she has just spouted

* From any Party

[Glyn_Wigley]

For a broadcast about local elections, its funny how there was not one word about how good a job Conservative councillors have done in Northamptonshire!

And this hot on the heels of Amber Rudd blaming the rise on violence on drugs...with not one word about what the effect of the loss of 20,000 police might have had on it!

[BillyStubbsTears]

It’s a Govt with no grip on reality and no idea about how to address the problems facing us.

And it’s still well ahead in the polls...

[Glyn_Wigley]

Aye, but just imagine how the papers would have reacted if Northamptonshire had been a Labour-run council, it'd have been back to the days of 'Loony Left' banner headlines. As it is, because they're Tories, barely a ripple.

[drfchound]

It’s a Govt with no grip on reality and no idea about how to address the problems facing us.

And it’s still well ahead in the polls...

.........that says much about the other parties.

[wesisback]

And even more about the media machine working against it and the idiocy of the nation in believing it.
Those bloody Trots!

[albie]

Glorious contribution to the crime/policing debate from the talented Amber Rudd;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/08/police-cuts-likely-contributed-to-rise-in-violent-leaked-report-reveals

Rudd claims not to be aware of this report. Comedy gold.

That lass hasn't got 2 brain cells to rub together.
She is a serious rival to Borump in the stupidity stakes.

[Donnywolf]

I listened to a Speech yesterday by accident and it was largely about voilence on the streets - things spialling out of control - drugs being THE issue ... and she actually said ... there is a big job to be done here and " I am determined to get to the bottom of it ! "

I thought then how poor all our representatives are as she has NO chance imo of "getting to the bottom " of that particular problem and instead they (the PM and MPs) fust dole out platitudes that they think will get them through their tenure (be that their current brief or their Term as a Govt)

If what they have promised dos not work they get blamed by their successors as in either of the above scenarios - I am heartily sick of all of it.

[Bentley Bullet]

I walked down Bentley road yesterday and noticed there were no policemen about, so I decided to slaughter somebody with my machete. If there had been a policeman present I wouldn't have done it, so it's the lack of police to blame.

Although I don't condone reducing the number of police the problem goes much further than that. We live in a very sick society that is getting sicker. Respect for authority has been replaced with disrespect.

[idler]

Respect,discipline and courtesy should start at home. Taught by parents initially so that on starting school they at least listen.
I know of one parent who when summoned to school about his son's behaviour said " Well it's because he's like me and doesn't take any s**t. Last week a man in a wheelchair shouted at me and I laid him out. He can't shout at me and get away with it just because he's in a wheelchair".
Needless to say he has been in prison on more than one occasion but what chance have his kids got. His wife has mental issues as well.
Society is losing it's values.

[hoolahoop]

I listened to a Speech yesterday by accident and it was largely about voilence on the streets - things spialling out of control - drugs being THE issue ... and she actually said ... there is a big job to be done here and " I am determined to get to the bottom of it ! "

I thought then how poor all our representatives are as she has NO chance imo of "getting to the bottom " of that particular problem and instead they (the PM and MPs) just dole out platitudes that they think will get them through their tenure (be that their current brief or their Term as a Govt)

If what they have promised does not work they get blamed by their successors as in either of the above scenarios - I am heartily sick of all of it.

I am with you brother on what you said in especially the paragraph above

[hoolahoop]

For a broadcast about local elections, its funny how there was not one word about how good a job Conservative councillors have done in Northamptonshire!

And this hot on the heels of Amber Rudd blaming the rise on violence on drugs...with not one word about what the effect of the loss of 20,000 police might have had on it!

It’s a Govt with no grip on reality and no idea about how to address the problems facing us.

And it’s still well ahead in the polls...

I know , it is a damning report on both the governance of our country and just how far the indoctrination of our people has gone . Entire reports on the future impact assessments not just on our economy but related aspects related to our daily lives are not done , are ignored, are glossed over or redacted and barring a few grumbles from the Opposition this Govt. plods on regardless. Meanwhile , it doesnt matter how foolish our leaders look, the public clap them like demented penguins lending them their votes.
You can lie to this public with relative impunity , why  ? Because you know damn well the MSM , the BBC , Sky News etc . are in your pocket ready to gloss over their mistakes or move onto the next daft story that the Far Right have been saving for their delectation.

A lack of any credible Opposition on a weak front bench gives this Govt. relative carte blanche to persue ridiculous policies not only Brexit but in every area of our lives. We are,  as citizens, just left hung out to dry , victims of a vote that occurred in 2016 , that this Govt. and the Opposition seems to have taken as a green light to persue whatever daft idea that springs to mind. It wasn't a green light to cover up the scandal of the outrageous attacks on our economy by Cambridge Analytica or to ignore reports on the effects of the lack of policing and it's relative effect  in increased knife crime or to enable austerity with all its  meanness on the poor and the weak in our society or to deprive proper funding to our Policing, our Prisons/ Officers, our NHS services, our schools etc. etc.

The future for our children looks bleak , we have to start thinking for ourselves....

[bpoolrover]

Hoola enjoy your life rather than worry so much about what might or might not happen, why does the future for our children look bleak? It looks no different than it ever has? You will make yourself ill with all this worry mate

[RedJ]

You've missed the bit where we're already lagging behind the growth we should've had then and the growth we will most likely continue to miss out on?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bpool

You DO realise that if all of humanity took that approach, we’d still be living in caves?

The very essence of being human means that you think about the future. You plan and you make decisions. You do your damnedest to avoid the worst outcomes and secure the best ones.

I truly hope you’re not saying that you personally never plan for the future. I think what you’re saying is that on this topic, it’s too complex to know.

If that is what you are saying then you are almost certainly wrong. The overwhelming majority of economists who spend their lives analysing these issues think that we are going to lose ball-crushingly high amounts of wealth over the next decade as a Direct result of Brexit. Anything up to £15,000 for every man, woman and child in the country. And the predictions are already coming true. Our economic growth has slowed dramatically since the vote while the rest of the world is having a boom. As a result, we’re already about £1000 per head down on where we could have been. That’s real money. Real schools that won’t get built. Roads that won’t get maintained. Nurses and police that won’t be employed. It’s real.

The predictions in the Treasury report last month were horrific. Most of the rest of the developed world is growing at 2.5-3% per year. That’s a fantastic place to be. It means that everyone is getting richer, year on year. If you grow at 3% for a generation you DOUBLE your living standards. Everyone wants that. It’s what makes hard work worthwhile. It means our kids will have a better world than we have.

Our predictions are that we’ll grow at half that rate for the next 6 years at least. So we will slowly slip behind France, Germany, Canada etc. Places that we’re on a par with at the moment. You won’t notice it day to day, which is why you don’t see a problem. But you f**king well will notice it over a decade. Because the effect will add up, day by day, year by year.

There is no-one credible making the argument the other way. There’s Johnson and Gove and Fox saying “those economists are wrong.” But they never explain WHY they are wrong. They never EVER provide alternative predictions. Because there are no credible analyses that predict anything other than an economic mess as a result of Brexit.

Think about that. Think hard about it. I don’t know the size of your family, but let’s assume it’s 4. The economists are predicting that YOUR family will lose up to £60,000 over the next decade as a result of Brexit, compared to what you would have got if we’d stayed in the EU. Doesn’t that mean anything to you? It makes my f**king blood boil.

[colfromdonny]

To tell you the truth all this bollox about us all losing loads of money is rubbish.  We are a very rich country and all of the money is there its just that the government and councils choose not to use it.. The magic money tree appeared for Theresa May when she needed it, there seems to be lots of money for wars , bombs and bonuses and we still pay out to other countries for relief.  Most of the cash , as usual, comes from us plebs in the form of the lottery ( a tax on our dreams ) and PAYE so lets just get Brexit sorted and then we will be even better off.  Its liking having work done on your house, it costs a bit in the short term but you are better off long term.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Go on then Col. How are we going to be better off in the long term?

[hoolahoop]

To tell you the truth all this bollox about us all losing loads of money is rubbish.  We are a very rich country and all of the money is there its just that the government and councils choose not to use it.. The magic money tree appeared for Theresa May when she needed it, there seems to be lots of money for wars , bombs and bonuses and we still pay out to other countries for relief.  Most of the cash , as usual, comes from us plebs in the form of the lottery ( a tax on our dreams ) and PAYE so lets just get Brexit sorted and then we will be even better off.  Its liking having work done on your house, it costs a bit in the short term but you are better off long term.

Col that has to be the worst lot of dribble I have read in a long long time , it's f**king nonsense man and I'm surprised you've had the gall to even write it . Reading that I can only assume that you are old , independent , single and probably not living in the UK ? Back it up man they are just words otherwise  .....

[bpoolrover]

No bst im not saying that, with hoola and I don’t mean this disrespectfully brings brexit up on most posts so it obviously bothers him a lot, nothing is going to change brexit as far as we can tell so he either has to accept it or keep worrying,if we do get some very good trade deals which I’m sure we will and in a couple of years after we leave and things have died down I’m sure as a country things will start to look up, I could be wrong and if I am so be it I will make the best of what I have, I have quite a big family but the wife and I both work and I can’t see brexit changing that either way

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bpool

The issue is that your comment nothing is going to change brexit as far as we can tell so he either has to accept it or keep worrying” is just wrong.

The point is that there are a million and one different types of “Brexit”. “Brexit” does not have to mean leaving the Single Market and Customs Union. This Govt has CHOSEN to interpret it that way. It is that decision that will have awful long term economic effects for us. But it is NOT set in stone. If there is enough resistance against that choice, the Govt CAN be forced to change its policy.

THAT is why I get so pissed off at people saying “It’s happening: just accept it and make the best of it.”

[bpoolrover]

As I said I see life differently I choose to enjoy my life no matter what happens, them figures you said before certainly won't affect me like that, I have enough things going on in my life to let money ruin it, I think back to previous governments and no matter which 1 has been in power it has not had much difference in my life as different parties give you money then take it back another way so either way brexit or no brexit Kanpur or tories not much will change as it never has before

[RedJ]

You have absolutely no idea do you? you can't even tell me what it was that made you decide Brexit was best for you and your family.

[hoolahoop]

No bst im not saying that, with hoola and I don’t mean this disrespectfully brings brexit up on most posts so it obviously bothers him a lot, nothing is going to change brexit as far as we can tell so he either has to accept it or keep worrying,if we do get some very good trade deals which I’m sure we will and in a couple of years after we leave and things have died down I’m sure as a country things will start to look up, I could be wrong and if I am so be it I will make the best of what I have, I have quite a big family but the wife and I both work and I can’t see brexit changing that either way

Why do I bring it up Blackpool ? Good question , perhaps it's because it will define the future of our country in almost every sphere you choose to name . Do I worry about it ? - No not really only in so much as  I worry about the futures of  my child and younger members of my family and to some extent the futures of your own children . Why ? -  because it doesn't need to be like this , it's mad , it's self- defeating for all parties involved and although I know it can't be prevented as such ; it's my hope that people including you will see before not afterwards that it could be so much easier. There is a reason that it's going in such a " hard " direction and believe me it's NOT for your enrichment but that of others . This is being driven by a Far Right section of " moneyed " MPs backed up fully to the hilt by a ' supposedly ' neutral BBC , the top selling newspapers , Sky , Fox  etc etc . Yes the Remainers have the full array of the establishment  and Press up against them .

Why do you think the Govt wanted to bypass Parliament at every stage, have every and any opposition branded as enemies of the people ? Why do you think they want to change regulations that have protected us all for decades.....money ? Why do you they feel the need to hold trade deals with the USA  behind ' closed doors ' ? Ask yourself these and  many other questions, then if you still feel the same fine .
In the meantime , I do enjoy my life and love the fact that my family love to work , study and travel in Europe with relative ease at least for now .

I have asked myself 1001 questions about all this from every angle even yours but came to but one conclusion that if we were to leave then it would have to be on the very best terms for all our people ...Currently that is NOT  happening .

[bpoolrover]

But you just sound bitter you sound like everyone is against you, the ones that wanted brexit would say the bbc the mirror the telegraph papers twist everything, none of us know including experts no what will happen, what’s the worst that could happen? I have kids at collage school and uni why do I need to worry that there life will be any worse off, I don’t think it will make much difference maybe they will be a few quid and that’s all it will be worse off, what else will happen will there health suffer will there be more chance if terrosit attack’s? What is the worst that has you so wound up?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Bpool

I’ve told you what is predicted to happen. The nation somewhere between £0.5-1.0trillion worse off by the middle of the next decade.

If you can just shrug that off then I’m not sure whether to envy you or worry about you.

[hoolahoop]

But you just sound bitter you sound like everyone is against you, the ones that wanted brexit would say the bbc the mirror the telegraph papers twist everything, none of us know including experts no what will happen, what’s the worst that could happen? I have kids at collage school and uni why do I need to worry that there life will be any worse off, I don’t think it will make much difference maybe they will be a few quid and that’s all it will be worse off, what else will happen will there health suffer will there be more chance if terrosit attack’s? What is the worst that has you so wound up?

I'm not bitter about this , I'm bitter perhaps that ordinary working people, decent people have been manipulated by those that would empty yours and my bank accounts , they would take away hard-won rights, conditions at work and endanger our health and safety etc.
They would seek to bypass our health regulations with chlorinated chickens/ turkeys and beef injected with growth hormones all in the name of personal profit.
Then there are the  additional costs to trade, travel, foreign exchange and the difficulties that future generations of Brits will struggle with in Europe that today they do with ease . There will be no European Health Insurance Cards for instance so travel insurance will increase as the risk increases. 

Do you know what there are so many more reasons Education exchange , study abroad ( Erasmus + ) , no more European Medicines Agency , no Euratom but from your post I can see that you are not prepared to listen to what we all have to say ! It worries me that you dont talk up all these " supposed " positives you see.  You were easy for them to convince over decades

Do you really believe that " you will only be a few quid a week worse off " and that's it ? Btw I am far from paranoid.

[RedJ]

The man hasn't a bloody clue. Can't even tell me why he thinks what he does about it, never mind tell me any of the consequences that he doesn't believe exist.

[hoolahoop]

The man hasn't a bloody clue. Can't even tell me why he thinks what he does about it, never mind tell me any of the consequences that he doesn't believe exist.

Thanks Red J / BST for trying to support what I'm saying.......I'm done with talking to him now. He OVER- simplifies everything.