Tommy robinson

[Glyn_Wigley]

Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.

Homophobic? Any evidence?

As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.

If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why is he moaning about what the media reports about him?

because they quote his deliberately out of context, and cut his interviews to make him look worse

If the media have been telling lies about him, Tommy Twonames has every right to sue them for libel. In fact it'd be fantastic publicity for him, repeatedly winning libel cases against the evil distorting liberal conspiracy.

How many has he sued so far?

[DonnyOsmond]

If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him?

Evidence?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html

Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.

Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x

Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.

Evidence?

This.

[Boomstick]

If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him?

Evidence?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html

Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.

Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x

Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.

Evidence?

This.

Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.

[Glyn_Wigley]

If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him?

Evidence?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html

Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.

Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x

Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.

Evidence?

This.

Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.

Lizzie Dearden or The Secret Barrister?

Not that it matters to me, I don't use twitter - never have - so can't look anybody up.

[Iberian Red]

If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him?

Evidence?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html

Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.

Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x

Funny how you fail to Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.

You can not educate pork. So when it comes to gammon we dont have a f**king prayer

[Boomstick]

If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him?

Evidence?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html

Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.

Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x

Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.

Evidence?

This.

Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.

Lizzie Dearden or The Secret Barrister?

Not that it matters to me, I don't use twitter - never have - so can't look anybody up.

Mike stuchbery, a very quick and easy Google will lead you to his tweets.
You don't need a twitter account.

I think alot on here base their opinions on Tommy Robinson on articles in the guardian and Independant.

I'm offering balance. Tommy Robinson is very misunderstood

[Glyn_Wigley]

If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him?

Evidence?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html

Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.

Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x

Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.

Evidence?

This.

Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.

Lizzie Dearden or The Secret Barrister?

Not that it matters to me, I don't use twitter - never have - so can't look anybody up.

Mike stuchbery, a very quick and easy Google will lead you to his tweets.
You don't need a twitter account.

I think alot on here base their opinions on Tommy Robinson on articles in the guardian and Independant.

I'm offering balance. Tommy Robinson is very misunderstood

I've never linked anything by Mike Stuchbery.

I have no idea how to use twitter and no inclination to find out. Besides, it's your evidence, you source it, don't tell other people to bugger off and find it for you.

As for balance, I've just been reading this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48942411

I'd love for you to point out the lies and/or misunderstandings in it.

[IDM]

I read that too, just waiting for BS to accuse the BBC of leftie bias..

[Glyn_Wigley]

I read that too, just waiting for BS to accuse the BBC of leftie bias..

Obviously it's a very big conspiracy. I'll assume it includes everybody who doesn't immediately believe Tommy's lies.

[wilts rover]

Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.

I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.

Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.

I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.

When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.

In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.

OK so not majority, but a very significant increase.
Still baffling in the extreme.

As for finding a safe place in prison, its exactly what he had to do, solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, which amounts to psychological torture.

The question remains, why did they do this?

HMP Hull is a Catergory B Prison - HMP Olney is a Catergory C Prison, so presumably he was moved because the authorities thought he would benefit from a more open prison closer to his home.

He was never in solitary confinement. He did spend a small amount of time in the Care & Rehabilitation Unit whilst the authorities assessed the risk to his safety. This however was when he first arrived at HMP Hull. The one with the 98% non-Muslim population.

These things are very easy to check.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/tommy-robinson-i-lost-40lb-1857867
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tommy-robinson-lost-40lb-prison-13025119?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&_ga=2.101129857.163864266.1562949075-58243389.1492887970

[Glyn_Wigley]

But it's all been taken out of context!!!

[Iberian Red]

I base my opinion on him having a false name and a few hundred racists following him.
Imagine in Doncaster,similar,some bellednd calls himself Archie,,Cheny. Or Boomstsick

[Iberian Red]

I base my opinion on him having a false name and a few hundred racists following him.
Imagine in Doncaster,similar,some bellednd calls himself Archie,,Cheny. Or Boomstsick

 It's fake news you racist kitson

[DonnyOsmond]

I base my opinion on him having a false name and a few hundred racists following him.
Imagine in Doncaster,similar,some bellednd calls himself Archie,,Cheny. Or Boomstsick

 It's fake news you racist kitson

Dat awkward moment when you call yourself a racist.

[Boomstick]

Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.

[DonnyOsmond]

Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.

You haven't linked anything. Why should we spoon feed you but you give us nothing?

[Glyn_Wigley]

Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.

#

What evidence? I haven't seen any. Still waiting for you to refute the BBC though. Surely it must be so full of lies you can point out a few very easily. Unless you can't, of course, because there aren't any lies in it. Your silence would confirm that for me.

[IDM]

Who’s a lefty fascist.?

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's how the world works now isn't it?

You reject anything that criticises what you want to believe, no matter how authoritative and well researched. You accept anything that supports what you want to believe, no matter how f**king batshit.

The internet was supposed to be the Great Developer. It was supposed to be a way of extending the access to objective truth to the whole world. It was supposed to let people find facts then decide what they believed from a position of knowledge.

Instead it's gone the opposite way. Folk decide what they want to believe, then grub around to find something, anything that supports it. And ignore anything that contradicts it.

It's gone turbocharged with Trump of course. Now you don't even need to be ashamed at ignoring stuff that contradicts you. Ignoring it is a mark of strength because you're fighting against the Dark Forces that want to mislead you.

God f**king help us.

[wilts rover]

Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.

You can't be a lefty facist.

Facism is a right-wing political philosophy. Among its characteristics are a positive view of violence, intolerance of minorities, attacks on liberalism and toleration and promotion of a dictatorial leader. Or to put more simply - that sort of stuff Stephen Yaxley-Lennon promotes in his videos you pay for.

Again these things are easy to check
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

[Bentley Bullet]

And what gives YOU more right to reject anything that criticises what you want to believe? Everyone chooses to believe what they want to believe by selecting sources of information that complies with their own thoughts in order to strengthen their resolve.

You are no less guilty of that than anyone else.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Nobody's perfect BB. And yeah, I get things wrong. But I do always try to start from a position of appraising facts and looking at who has a track record of broadly being shown to be correct and truthful by the record.

There are plenty of left wing gobshites who I would check the calendar if they told me it was Saturday and I ignore them when I'm forming my opinions.

But like I said, none of us are perfect. The important thing is to TRY to get it right. We've all got a responsibility to do that if we want to prevent a rapid degeneration.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Thing is. It's not even hard if you're prepared to engage your brain.

On the Tommy Robinson issue, you can put your credit into that BylineTimes article that I posted. The one that reported checkable, verifiable facts. The one that BS simply dismissed as an obscure, biased website, without addressing the facts that the article reported.

Or you can choose to accept this alternative take.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ixi0310/status/1149605662025908225

It's not really hard is it? If you're REALLY interested in objective truth.

[Bentley Bullet]

BST. It's the left wing gobshites who are too dangerous to ignore that make people form their opinions against them.

[Glyn_Wigley]

What about the gobshite that is Tommy Robinson, though? He is, after all, the subject of this thread.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well BB, I'm sure you'd agree that people who do that, to the extent that they stop listening to reasonable and reasoned arguments from the left are being a bit immature.

[Bentley Bullet]

BST. I'm not suggesting ignoring any of them. You are!

[BillyStubbsTears]

But you DO ignore sensible debate from the left BB. That's kind of the point. You do it all the time. Sensible stuff is posted in here, reasoned, supported argument and you ignore it.

[Bentley Bullet]

Well, that's where we differ in opinion. What you think is sensible isn't always what I think is sensible. For instance, you think it's sensible to ignore a democratic vote and insist on another one until you get the result you want - I don't.

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB
Yes. And you have never once engaged with what I've laid out about how that position evolved. How I was perfectly prepared to accept a sensible Brexit in 2016/17, before the process was hijacked by the Right. And before the facts emerged about the criminal activities of the Leave campaigns.

You've never once engaged on discussing those issues.

Which makes me think you've no interest in reflecting or weighing evidence.