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If we ever do get back to the Championship, given that most weeks the away end would be much busier than it is in L1 and sometimes sold out and better, I think I am correct in saying that with ticket sales and add on that scenario alone is worth an extra £1m per season.Obviously some of that income would have to go to wages for better players to keep us there but also, if we could stay up and rattle a few cages the home support could increase too.On top of the hardcore fan base the floating fans will come and see a successful team.
Quote from: drfchound on June 11, 2018, 05:18:27 pmIf we ever do get back to the Championship, given that most weeks the away end would be much busier than it is in L1 and sometimes sold out and better, I think I am correct in saying that with ticket sales and add on that scenario alone is worth an extra £1m per season.Obviously some of that income would have to go to wages for better players to keep us there but also, if we could stay up and rattle a few cages the home support could increase too.On top of the hardcore fan base the floating fans will come and see a successful team.It's worth much more than that, the solidarity payments run to several millions more when in the Championship.
Quote from: silent majority on June 11, 2018, 05:48:09 pmQuote from: drfchound on June 11, 2018, 05:18:27 pmIf we ever do get back to the Championship, given that most weeks the away end would be much busier than it is in L1 and sometimes sold out and better, I think I am correct in saying that with ticket sales and add on that scenario alone is worth an extra £1m per season.Obviously some of that income would have to go to wages for better players to keep us there but also, if we could stay up and rattle a few cages the home support could increase too.On top of the hardcore fan base the floating fans will come and see a successful team.It's worth much more than that, the solidarity payments run to several millions more when in the Championship.Obviously I don’t know how much those payments add up to SM but clearly, if they are what you say then that £2m per season that some posters are on about would not be required.As RedJ posted, why would anyone not want us to get into the Championship?
That's what I don't get about all the "they don't want us in the Championship" lark. Why would they actively not want us to gain more income?
The financial bubble of the premiership essentially means relegated clubs need grotesque amounts of money just to not go bust. Which makes it essentially unpractical for smaller teams to compete without huge short-term financial speculation or a miracle.Of course the odd one occasionally does go bust which gives the illusion of competitiveness.
Quote from: Copps is Magic on June 11, 2018, 07:18:43 pmThe financial bubble of the premiership essentially means relegated clubs need grotesque amounts of money just to not go bust. Which makes it essentially unpractical for smaller teams to compete without huge short-term financial speculation or a miracle.Of course the odd one occasionally does go bust which gives the illusion of competitiveness.The thing that no-one has mentioned yet is that every other club in the division gets that income too. So just getting to the Championship isn't the end of the ambition, it's staying there that's the real struggle.
Quote from: RedJ on June 11, 2018, 05:45:19 pmThat's what I don't get about all the "they don't want us in the Championship" lark. Why would they actively not want us to gain more income? I think the point many of us are trying to make and you cannot see it is. "Why would they actively not want us to gain more income" I am sure they do but have you never heard the expression "Speculate to accumulate?" There doesn't seem to be much evidence of any real speculation.
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 11, 2018, 07:14:20 pmQuote from: RedJ on June 11, 2018, 05:45:19 pmThat's what I don't get about all the "they don't want us in the Championship" lark. Why would they actively not want us to gain more income? I think the point many of us are trying to make and you cannot see it is. "Why would they actively not want us to gain more income" I am sure they do but have you never heard the expression "Speculate to accumulate?" There doesn't seem to be much evidence of any real speculation.I'd rather build the club up year on year than spunk a f**k ton of money for the sake of looking like we're "going for it" and hope it sticks.I can see exactly the point you and others make, I just don't agree with it.
Quote from: RedJ on June 11, 2018, 09:35:45 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 11, 2018, 07:14:20 pmQuote from: RedJ on June 11, 2018, 05:45:19 pmThat's what I don't get about all the "they don't want us in the Championship" lark. Why would they actively not want us to gain more income? I think the point many of us are trying to make and you cannot see it is. "Why would they actively not want us to gain more income" I am sure they do but have you never heard the expression "Speculate to accumulate?" There doesn't seem to be much evidence of any real speculation.I'd rather build the club up year on year than spunk a f**k ton of money for the sake of looking like we're "going for it" and hope it sticks.I can see exactly the point you and others make, I just don't agree with it.I agree build up within our means and budget.Can you imagine if the board said stuff it one last go instead of 2 million this year it will be 4 million but if we fail then you will get nothing next season oh and sorry but we can’t afford to write off that debt so it will stay with the club.Now imagine if it fails the club now has 4 million quid of debt, can’t afford to buy any one has expensive players on big wages that most clubs may not want, the manager may have quit. We drop out of league one relying on loans and youth and players who not want to be here. So called fans start calling for the board to go, so they think stuff it and quit too putting the club up for sale to the first person or group that comes along. We start in league 2 we get a no named manager and players we don’t recognise, by Xmas we are in the bottom 2 fans call for the manager to go so new owner does just that another no name manager from some under 23 side in Europe comes in brings in a few youngsters thinks start to look up a few wins great we will be ok then it happens the injury crisis. We slide down the league and get relegated in our final match against Grimsby.Or that may not happen but it’s happened to so many other clubs you think people may have learnt their lessons by now.
And Villa still have two years of parachute payments!
You look at Villa's squad and you struggle to work out how they are in such a position it's hardly full of superstars yet the money they have spent on wages and transfers is eye watering..They bought a lot of average for top top buck.. They couldn't even afford to give the players new suits for the play off final..They really needed to win that and when they didn't they knew they were goosed.. Like at any level it's easy to say offload the players etc etc but like we had with Williams,even if clubs are interested if the players are getting paid more than anybody else will offer,they wont go anywhere..
I'd love to see our club make a small profit every season without a couple of million each season from the board...and I wouldn't care if it was in league 2. I'm thankful our board has done what it has...but give me a Mitchell Lund from the youth team over a Cedric Evina any day.
No because we are spending an extra £2m on activities that are for the long term good of the club rather than immediate on the pitch activities, that's how i interpret it anyway.